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**Mymearan**

I think he meant marines as in "sigmarines".

**Manchu**

Mymearan wrote:
Aren't the Blood Reavers comparable to old stuff?

Yes, just looking at one standing next to a Guardsman on my desk and they have the same stature and similar proportions (if anything the newer model is a bit more naturalistic; maybe just less "hunchy").

**judgedoug**

Mymearan wrote:
I think he meant marines as in "sigmarines".

why say "marines" on a 40k-centric message board when discussing scales when one's intention is "stormcast eternals"? smells trollish.

**durecellrabbit**

The more open poses of the Blood Reaver and Warriors make them seem a lot bigger when they're only slightly bigger. The Warriors also have tall helmets.

**Mymearan**

**RoninXiC**

Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

**Alpharius**

They are infused with the power of Chaos!

The more they sow havoc and reap discord in the name of Chaos, the bigger they get!

Maybe?

**judgedoug**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

Archaon's personal guard are chaos infused WFRP3 ogres riding demonic mounts?
Who cares, they look effin sweet.

**ImAGeek**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

Why does it not make sense? They're Archaons elite bodyguard essentially, having served Chaos for god knows how long.

**RoninXiC**

They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

**Grimskul**

RoninXiC wrote:
They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

GW clearly follows after the Orkish idea of bigger is better, you see it through all their product lines. Bigger suits for Tau, bigger marines (centurions), bigger walkers (Morkanaut/Gorkanaut), so bigger chaos warriors fits the norm.

**Bottle**

RoninXiC wrote:
They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

It does if you're chaos. It's a chaos gift.

Also, it does if you're a Stormcast. It's a Sigmar gift.

**jojo_monkey_boy**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big?

Because how else are GW going to convince you to drop the exorbitant amount that they cost on them?

It's amazing how AoS is absolutely destroying any and all desire I have to ever play a GW game again. They learned nothing from why people weren't playing 8th edition. It's too expensive.

**Kilkrazy**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

Apparently if the new version of a unit contains more polystyrene polymer it justifies a massive price increase.

**ImAGeek**

RoninXiC wrote:
They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

It does when the Chaos gods imbue you with massive amounts of power.

**Kilkrazy**

They actually aren't much larger than the models they replace.

**jmurph**

Or maybe it's just because it is easier to cram more details onto a larger model and a larger model has more presence on the table. So they can charge more.

GW scale creep has been a thing for quite a while.

**Donomar**

ImAGeek wrote:
RoninXiC wrote:
They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

It does when the Chaos gods imbue you with massive amounts of power.

In that case why don't the Chaos gods make them triple or quadruple the size of all the enemy troops around them. That way they would be certain to always win in the name of the dark powers!

jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big?

Because how else are GW going to convince you to drop the exorbitant amount that they cost on them?

It's amazing how AoS is absolutely destroying any and all desire I have to ever play a GW game again. They learned nothing from why people weren't playing 8th edition. It's too expensive.

Yeah pretty much, the scale creep is directly related to the aggressive pricing strategy. Hard to justify charging those prices for the current Chaos Knight kits so along come new shiny bigger versions. You've hit the nail on the head there about 8th. Holding out for the new Dwarf stuff to at least be the same scale as the older ones. New huge dwarven machines and constructs being a larger scale would be acceptable...not so much the stunties themselves

**ImAGeek**

Kilkrazy wrote:
They actually aren't much larger than the models they replace.

They haven't replaced any models.

**BobtheInquisitor**

What scale are all the dwarf fans asking for? The scale that the warriors, rangers and miners come in, or the much smaller--so small they are incompatible with earlier plastics--heroes, longbeards, ironbreakers, firebelcherwhatevers and the other dwarfs in armor? Because I would like to know which of those two vastly different scales the fireslayer needs to be in order for you other dwarf fans to be happy.

Spoiler:

I'm just hoping he'll be able to pass as either a dwarf or some kind of ancestor god without too much squinting.

**RiTides**

RoninXiC wrote:
They are still warriors of Chaos are they not?

Just because youre Elite doesnt make you grow

Yeah, that's the problem most chaos dwarf fans have with the bull centaurs - they were originally supposed to be halfbreeds I believe, so the "dwarf" part shouldn't be that much larger than a dwarf! I'm using some excellent Bloodbowl third party bull centaurs for mine

**coldgaming**

Kilkrazy wrote:
They actually aren't much larger than the models they replace.

They're not replacing any unit, and it's not a "price increase" if a new product comes out at a certain price.

**angelofvengeance**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

They're big because:
a) Champions of Chaos= more power and more "gifts" (let's be honest, having your armour grow on to your body or your arm replaced with a tentacle doesn't sound fun lol)
b) Their steeds are also daemonic so more Chaos love for them.
and
c) They work for Archaon, and thus get the best weapons and armour available. Did I mention they're ded 'ard too?

**Wulfmar**

Excuse me? No. I did not just see that.

The 'Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch' has a suspiciously Khornate headdress. Next thing you know he'll have skulls coming out his arse.

Keep Khorne out of Tzeentch.

**Red Corsair**

Guys, I hate to sound negative but isn't the scale creep fething obvious yet?

If they release everything and it is slightly larger, eventually you will have to buy new models rather then play with your WFB left overs. At least that's my bet on what their reasoning is. They can't foresee people simply opting out due to sticker shock.

EDIT:

Just wait and see how massive the new Duardin(?) will be and then it should sink in.

**Jehan-reznor**

RoninXiC wrote:
Why are they so big? It doesnt make any sense.

So they can ask more money off course!

**Sarouan**

I don't think these new knights (yes, I know, it's actually a different unit, doesn't matter

) are so big. It's mainly the mount that is roughly "Archaon's former Dorghar" size. About the rider, yeah, he may be a bit bigger with more impressive weapons/shields, but not so much.

It's a unit of "Old Archaon alike", to me. Doesn't justify such a price, of course, but about coherency...it's not such a gap, IMHO.

**jonolikespie**

Red Corsair wrote:
Guys, I hate to sound negative but isn't the scale creep fething obvious yet?

If they release everything and it is slightly larger, eventually you will have to buy new models rather then play with your WFB left overs. At least that's my bet on what their reasoning is. They can't foresee people simply opting out due to sticker shock.

EDIT:

Just wait and see how massive the new Duardin(?) will be and then it should sink in.

Not true, you could use your old Empire army as dwarves on a diet!

But yeah everything seems to be on 32mm bases now and I'd have expected the shirtless guys in the starter set to be the new marauder equivalents and they are definitely bigger.

**Skullhammer**

As to the size of the varangaurd the short stories have them as being chaos lords, so each one is a lord who has fought everthing going to be promoted to achons bodygaurd and the lord models were always larger than normal anyway. So there now a unit of chaos lords+ and hence bigger.

Though the price is a shocker.

**reds8n**

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/2015/12/08/new-age-of-sigmar-event-battleplans/

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