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Accolade wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

It's almost as if KOW substitutes in for WHFB (a ranked fantasy battle game), whereas AOS does not.

Sqorgar wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

It's almost as if KOW substitutes in for WHFB (a ranked fantasy battle game), whereas AOS does not.

If you saw a man who was dating a woman who looked similar to his dead wife, saying "she's a great substitute" every thirty seconds, in every conversations, would you think that guy legitimately liked this woman, or do you think he might be overcompensating a little? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

KOW does indeed substitute in for WHFB seeing as both are ranked fantasy battle games. Gameplay wise it is nearer to WHFB than AoS as it maintains the ranked battle dynamic so not really that radical to state that. It also naturally follows that it also allows WHFB players to maintain ranked armies if they so wish. It also follows that WHFB & KOW players can still look towards any new releases by GW that might have models of interest for use in their WHFB/KOW armies. As I've stated already I am actively looking at any of the new Dwarf Slayer models that can be used to fit into my pre-existing WHFB Slayer army (that I can also now use in KOW).

I think it's fair to say that many active WHFB (and now KOW) players are still interested in what GW releases in AoS that can be carried over.

Yup, I am totally grabbing the lizard riders for my dwarves. Which are an AoS and Kow army. I base on rounds and use conversion trays.

I can play both. I do play both. AoS is awesome for small skirmishes amongst friends. Kow is our new tournament game. I was just pointing out that the knights are actually good in Kow

Hulksmash wrote:To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Have you seen 'em, though?

I mean, strewth. The new AoS releases may be seen to be a bit lacklustre but I think they could pale in comparison to the rerelease of the lizardmen cold ones under the seraphon banner. They could fill that 'what plastic kits should GW do' by themselves.
I can understand the convenience of the thing and the inconvenience of sorting out alternate mounts, but I think I'd personally even consider stocking up on the £10 resin cold ones, if bits sellers couldn't help.

Gimgamgoo wrote:Not so sure why the white knights get so upset about this. We're buying GW stuff.

I'm still waiting on me box of stormcast liberators.

For Dragon Rampant.

Schmapdi wrote:
lol - GW seems well aware that no one would buy the Lizardmen cold one riders on their own - they always stick them in the box sets, devaluing them greatly.

Tell me about it. I saw the new Lizardmen army and thought "Awesome! Oh.... Cold Ones.... again.... eww". I would have bought it otherwise

People will probably giggle, or cackle even, when I saw this but I think AoS is a good start and I'm hoping GW will stick with it and improve it and turn it into a game more along the lines of your average sized warmachine game.

It's fun but it definitely wasn't worth the death of the Old World

Don't think I saw it here, but the "Next Issue" reads - "Spawn of Vulcatrix, Bearer of the Latchkey, New Year, New Army".

Not really sure what that will be. Isn't Vulcatrix a dragon type or some such? I don't really follow the Fantasy stuff.

 Talys wrote:
Don't think I saw it here, but the "Next Issue" reads - "Spawn of Vulcatrix, Bearer of the Latchkey, New Year, New Army".

Not really sure what that will be. Isn't Vulcatrix a dragon type or some such? I don't really follow the Fantasy stuff.

The Vulcatrix is the legendary beast Grimnir fought, so this hint is probably pointing at the big lava-salamander things. They could be called "Ur-Salamanders" or maybe a "Magmadroth" which are both terms mentioned in the new White Dwarf.

The bearer of the Latchkey is the Runefather, his axe unlocks the magma-vault where the Fyreslayers horde their Ur-Gold.

So, I guess one build of the "Magmadroth" is the Runefather, the other is as a Runeson.

That leaves the the BSB and the guy with the twin axe. Based on the Fyreslayer Lodge family tree in the White Dwarf, Im going to guess the BSB is a "battlesmith" and the guy with the twin bladed great axe is a "Grimwrath Bezerker" :-)

@Botte - Thanks That's cool. Its the spawn of Vulcatrix... maybe our first centerpiece for 2016?

So as a fleshed out faction these guys will eventually have (?):

Runemaster
Battlesmith
Grimwrath
Aurics
Hearthguard
Vulkites
Runefather on sally
Runeson on sally

Yawn at the KoW talk.

This is an AoS rumour thread. Now do I have to show a pic of my non GW books figs etc before the white knight comments start?

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Yawn at the KoW talk.

This is an AoS rumour thread. Now do I have to show a pic of my non GW books figs etc before the white knight comments start?

Just wondered why saying;

"Cool, I'm buying some for my KoW army"

particularly differs from saying

"Cool, I'm buying some for my AoS army".

2 letters difference. We're all liking the same models. The thread is about the release of new models.
When I bought my first Citadel miniatures, they were manufactured for any fantasy game you were playing. Why does it bother people so much nowadays?

In case they weren't already posted you can find pictures of the new Salamanders taken from Warhammer World. They are visible on https://twitter.com/HeelanHammer (scroll down up until the posts from 23h ago)

I would post a better link but that would require my Firefox and Twitter to stop punching each other in the face long enough for something, anything, to work.

Many thanks for the direct link to the pics.

The Salamanders look really nice IMO, but the Dwarf on top of the black one... his "scarecrow" pose make me feel like I'm looking at a miniature from the early 90...

I wonder if the cracked black is a new basing paint similar to the Martian Iron Earth?

I really really like the Salamanders.

A couple more of the other salamander.

Very cool! Love the big lizards too. I mean what's not to like?

 ImAGeek wrote:
I really really like the Salamanders.

Indeed I am not a big dwarves fan but am wondering how a Coven throne would look on top of one of those beasties as I have a spare one..............

stormboy wrote:
I wonder if the cracked black is a new basing paint similar to the Martian Iron Earth?

Or it could be done with using the Volcanic Base Tutorial from the Warhammer TV advent calendar.

Gotta put a reptile on that reptile so I lizard on the lizards.

Curious how much that Salamander will cost. Tempted to put one of the extra Wrath of Kings dragon riders on that thing if I don't have any extra seraphon riders.

Might put the dwarf rider on an appropriately sized bear instead. Maybe one of the Scibor ones?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Gotta put a reptile on that reptile so I lizard on the lizards.

Curious how much that Salamander will cost. Tempted to put one of the extra Wrath of Kings dragon riders on that thing if I don't have any extra seraphon riders.

Might put the dwarf rider on an appropriately sized bear instead. Maybe one of the Scibor ones?

Had similar thoughts looking at it. Wonder how much bigger it is in comparison to the Carnosaur? I'd be thinking of getting one to proxy for a Dread Saurian and create a unit filler with the rider. Model looks much more impressive in those photos; think the original WD photos posted don't do the fyreslayer wave any credit.

It looks like that Salamander would make a great mount for a Clan Lord on a Fire Drake.

I guess it will all depend if it has much dwarf rune acne. Hard to tell but looking ok so far from the images shown.

The dwarf models would be better without the rune acne. I don't mind them having runes, (just like I don't mind chaos models having skulls), I just hate it when GW embed them into the skin. :-(

I'm a big fan of them lizards too, but I can't help but wonder if the inevitably astronomical price will cause me to decide to not get it. What are people's best guesses for what GW might price it at? I'd like it as a mount for my CSM/Daemon Lord...

-C6

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Gotta put a reptile on that reptile so I lizard on the lizards.

Curious how much that Salamander will cost. Tempted to put one of the extra Wrath of Kings dragon riders on that thing if I don't have any extra seraphon riders.

Might put the dwarf rider on an appropriately sized bear instead. Maybe one of the Scibor ones?

Shieldwolf are about to start a whole kickstarter with riding bears and mamoths and such which woudl fit with Viking looking Dwarfs

I wonder if the salamander will be in a Starting army box?

 catharsix wrote:
I'm a big fan of them lizards too, but I can't help but wonder if the inevitably astronomical price will cause me to decide to not get it. What are people's best guesses for what GW might price it at? I'd like it as a mount for my CSM/Daemon Lord...

-C6

Probably £40-50, would be my guess. I hope it's not over that.

Those Salamanders would go nicely with a KoW Salamander army - they've got some big firey reptilian beasties that I'm sure would work.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 catharsix wrote:
I'm a big fan of them lizards too, but I can't help but wonder if the inevitably astronomical price will cause me to decide to not get it. What are people's best guesses for what GW might price it at? I'd like it as a mount for my CSM/Daemon Lord...

-C6

Probably £40-50, would be my guess. I hope it's not over that.

Since the Carnosaur goes for £50 I'd say that is the very very least we can expect.

I would be surprised if it goes for any less that £60, same as the varanguard and I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if it's up at £70 or more.

I'd expect it to be more than the Carnosaur for sure. Love the aesthetic of this army.