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Now I am a bit confused by this storm cast externals guessing game, isn't the book already out and any units missing from it would be in the upcoming release? Or did nobody buy the book? Or worse people bought it and everything that's in it has already been released which means a possible 2nd book already?

Your third guess is correct. The battletome does not contain anything about cavalry. It is a worrying scenario. The only slightly positive spin you could put on it, is that GW imagines the battletome to be vanilla Stormcast and that the new stuff will be the equivalent of Space Wolves, Blood Angels etc. This is a bit of a stretch though.

That's actually not that crazy of a thought chi.
I could easily see them to sub tomes for specific cells of stormcast.

In the Start Collecting! Skeleton Horde box do we now if all three Mortarch's will be included?

Of course new stuff is going to be released even if a book is out, that's a given. The reason this new stuff wasn't in the book is because of the Chapterhouse case. Exact same reason why the Tyranid drop pod and other stuff wasn't in the codex even though they were finished back then. They will never again release rules before model, and the consequence is that books will never contain future releases.

 GiraffeX wrote:
In the Start Collecting! Skeleton Horde box do we now if all three Mortarch's will be included?

one mortrarch kit that can build any of the 3 Mortarch's.

With rules for a Arkhan formation.

usernamesareannoying wrote:

 GiraffeX wrote:
In the Start Collecting! Skeleton Horde box do we now if all three Mortarch's will be included?

one mortrarch kit that can build any of the 3 Mortarch's.

Thunderfrog wrote:With rules for a Arkhan formation.

Cool thanks for that, I did assume it would be like that as its the same sprues but you never know

 GiraffeX wrote:

usernamesareannoying wrote:

 GiraffeX wrote:
In the Start Collecting! Skeleton Horde box do we now if all three Mortarch's will be included?

one mortrarch kit that can build any of the 3 Mortarch's.

Thunderfrog wrote:With rules for a Arkhan formation.

Cool thanks for that, I did assume it would be like that as its the same sprues but you never know

Putting it rather bluntly, yes. Yes you can know. That question has not been relevant for a long while.

GW doesn't cut multi-kit sprues to give you individual builds. It's a ton of extra work for no real reward, since they don't do bits sales anymore. The only time multi-kits will provide a single build is when the parts are restricted to specific sprues.

If all the parts for Arkhan and his mount were on a single sprue and didn't share any parts with Neferata or Mannfred? Yeah, maybe it would be just Arkhan's sprues. But they haven't done that in a long while.

Does anyone have some leaks yet of the new stormcast stuff?

If they did, they'd be in here already.

Chikout wrote:
Your third guess is correct. The battletome does not contain anything about cavalry. It is a worrying scenario. The only slightly positive spin you could put on it, is that GW imagines the battletome to be vanilla Stormcast and that the new stuff will be the equivalent of Space Wolves, Blood Angels etc. This is a bit of a stretch though.

While I understand the frustration with buying the battletome that has everything stormcast only to have a new release come out later, the situation isn't as bad as it could be because the rules for said new release will be free. Still irritating to be sure, but at least stormcast players will get something new to play with.

Hmm... Plague Furnace and Plague Catapult. It's like they're de-emphasising the Screaming Bell and Warp Lightning Cannon aspects of those kits.

Interesting...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Plague Furnace and Plague Catapult. It's like they're de-emphasising the Screaming Bell and Warp Lightning Cannon aspects of those kits.

Interesting...

The "Start Collecting" sets tend to do that, since they have specific formations contained within.

Yeah but the individual boxes are doing that as well.

But everything is focused on Pestilens lately, so I guess it makes sense to market the ktis as such, especially with the battle tome book coming out soon(ish).

On the other hand I doubt they'd go to the trouble of repacking everything Lightning focused if they did a Skryre focused book at some point. Maybe that's when the Doomwheels would get repacked...

Yes, it makes sense from the Pestilens release schedule, but it's a bit curious from the overall marketing perspective, as you'd doubt they'd want to start making separate boxes for the different builds.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Plague Furnace and Plague Catapult. It's like they're de-emphasising the Screaming Bell and Warp Lightning Cannon aspects of those kits.

Interesting...

The Verminlord is 'Verminlord Corruptor' now too.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Your third guess is correct. The battletome does not contain anything about cavalry. It is a worrying scenario. The only slightly positive spin you could put on it, is that GW imagines the battletome to be vanilla Stormcast and that the new stuff will be the equivalent of Space Wolves, Blood Angels etc. This is a bit of a stretch though.

While I understand the frustration with buying the battletome that has everything stormcast only to have a new release come out later, the situation isn't as bad as it could be because the rules for said new release will be free. Still irritating to be sure, but at least stormcast players will get something new to play with.

Also, with Tau (& SW I think?) recently, GW didn't do massive new books, they simply rejigged the book by adding the additional rules.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Plague Furnace and Plague Catapult. It's like they're de-emphasising the Screaming Bell and Warp Lightning Cannon aspects of those kits.

Interesting...

The Verminlord is 'Verminlord Corruptor' now too.

The Corruptor is the Pestilens variant of Verminlord. The kit should still be able to make any of the various versions.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Plague Furnace and Plague Catapult. It's like they're de-emphasising the Screaming Bell and Warp Lightning Cannon aspects of those kits.

Interesting...

The Verminlord is 'Verminlord Corruptor' now too.

The Corruptor is the Pestilens variant of Verminlord. The kit should still be able to make any of the various versions.

Yeah, it does. I was just pointing out that they've done the same with the Verminlord as they have with the other two (made the Pestilens part the focus). It doesn't even matter, I was just pointing it out.

I think it's because for some reason, in AoS, GW is obsessed with Chaos in the exact opposite extent to how they ignore it in 40k, so even Skaven got Chaos-ified.

Well, not really as pestilens was always a thing, but they sure do their damndest to downplay the more "normal" Moulder and Eshin sides of Skaven to new players.

I think they're playing around with the idea of 2 boxes with their dual kits, each showing a different build.

They've been doing it on the website for a while and I would not be surprised if doing so has resulted in more sales than depending on people (especially gift giving reletives who don't really know the game) reading the blurb on a single listing

I suspect they're now going to see if doing 2 separate boxes for the dual kits is going to pay for the extra production costs. Yes it's an extra SKU but they don't have to add both to the mandatory list for stockists and I suspect it might well work to increase sales (they'll also have spare space with the kits that drop out now AoS is well on the weay with reboxings)

It might be a different SKU for (web) order but just one box, flip it around and it now presents the 'other' SKU. Best of both worlds.

ehi guys on the cover of the realmgate wars the gates of azyr there is a stormcast eternal on a lizard....
https://www.games-workshop.com/it-IT/Age-Sigmar-Gates-Of-Azyr
...may that means they are realy preparing a lizard mounted unit for stormcast ?

antohammer wrote:
ehi guys on the cover of the realmgate wars the gates of azyr there is a stormcast eternal on a lizard....
https://www.games-workshop.com/it-IT/Age-Sigmar-Gates-Of-Azyr
...may that means they are realy preparing a lizard mounted unit for stormcast ?

Nothing new there, that's Vandus Hammerhand, the Lord Celestant from the AoS box set.

oh sorry guys.... I had not recognized him... i was thinking it was something like a lizard/demigryph... ...sorry.... -___-

No worries GW also does tease like this, so it wasnt in vain.

From archibald_tk (warseer)

Next WD for your viewing pleasure:

- Battletome Stormcast Eternals EXTREMIS (Because they're more extreme than poor regular Stormcast peasants? It's the 90s all over again!) 21€ / £15 / $25 / AU$ 99.999
88 pages, 2 battleplans, 4 battalions, 7 warscrolls ( so 2 more units than what is already in the WD, they refer to something called a Star Drake so your guess is as good as mine regarding what it will be)

- Dracothian Guards (2 mounted Stormcasts like the one in the AoS box) 55€ / £40 / $65 / AU$ your mortgage

- Knight-Heraldor (1 model) 19.5€ / £15 / $25 / AU$ a trained battle kangaroo
Yup, it's just an alternate model of the previous Heraldor. Rejoice trumpet lovers for that one has no chance of sticking his instrument in his eye!

- Tempest Lords upgrades pack 9€ / £7 / $12 / AU$ your firstborn

- Starter paint sets 28€ / £20 / $33 / AU$ your soul
3 Marines or 3 Stormcasts, with 8 mini pots and a brush. Very very costly for the content so not really designed as an entry tool for kids, it's more for parents looking for a present I suppose.

- Super Glue €7.5 / £5.25 / $8.75 / AU$ 15 (hey, it's actually the real price!)
A box of 5x0.5g of glue, for a mighty total of 2.5g... ... ... I... I... I do not... wut?

WD starts with a photo that I assume is supposed to wake up all those who still believe for some reason that AoS is a skirmish game. Now go buy 12 more Varanguards and 24 Dracothian Guards while you're at it *WHIPLASH*!

5 warscrolls inside the WD, actually one for the Lord Celestant on Dracoth and 4 for the Dracothian Guards that are actually just the 4 weapons options. Fulminators (glaives), Tempestors (not-bolters crossbow), Concussors (hammers) and Desolators (axes, which actually increase their number of attacks the more they are in the unit, 3 for 2, 4 for 4 and 6 for 6... now go buy more!)

Next week hints is something something Dracothion and Warriors of the Extremis Chambers.

Somebody on the french warhammer forum confirmed the darcoth cavalry as a multi kit that will allow you to equip them with either spears, crossbows, hammers, or axes as four different units. Pictures to come soon.