Doom of Mymeara- 2nd edition (aka Codex Corsairs)

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**Stephanius**

Red Corsair wrote:
NG77 wrote:
Still fixed powers then? Maybe no use in the freakshow, but I think dropping a Wraithlord with a D-Cannon in the opponents backline would cause absolute carnage.

Does it have an invuln save or is it just regular 3+ armour? Any increase in stats on a regular Wraithlord?

For that same price you can just take a WK though and shoot 2 D shots starting turn 1. It would be cool to see him leading a unit of wraithlords all coverted up as his vanguard but I doubt it would be very powerful/cost effective.

The Wraithseer could join a unit of Wraithguard or Wraithblades after a WWP IC has joind them. Sure, that's dropping to majority toughness 6, but makes a charge against this unit much less attractive. Could be nice with wraithscythes, who are pretty helpless in melee if something survives their Wall of Death.

My problem is more that you cannot field him as part of the Craftworld Warhost.

**Sarigar**

Why not?

**Erik_Morkai**

Stephanius wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
NG77 wrote:
Still fixed powers then? Maybe no use in the freakshow, but I think dropping a Wraithlord with a D-Cannon in the opponents backline would cause absolute carnage.

Does it have an invuln save or is it just regular 3+ armour? Any increase in stats on a regular Wraithlord?

For that same price you can just take a WK though and shoot 2 D shots starting turn 1. It would be cool to see him leading a unit of wraithlords all coverted up as his vanguard but I doubt it would be very powerful/cost effective.

The Wraithseer could join a unit of Wraithguard or Wraithblades after a WWP IC has joind them. Sure, that's dropping to majority toughness 6, but makes a charge against this unit much less attractive. Could be nice with wraithscythes, who are pretty helpless in melee if something survives their Wall of Death.

My problem is more that you cannot field him as part of the Craftworld Warhost.

Yes you can thanks to the new detachment options which specify that they are additional choices for a Craftworld Warhost.

**NG77**

Can you take it in the Wraith host or just as an additional part of the craftworld Warhost?

**DarknessEternal**

Still waiting for this book to become available.

**Sarigar**

DarknessEternal wrote:
Still waiting for this book to become available.

Do you mean locally? I've had the book for over three weeks now; ordered directly through FW.

**vipoid**

What are your guys thoughts regarding Corsair Venoms, Vypers and Wasps?

And, with regard to the Venoms and Vypers, is it worth paying for a second Heavy gun? (assuming they're worth taking at all)

**morganfreeman**

It was asked but I didn't see an answer. Are there new Elysian rules in the book?

**DarknessEternal**

Sarigar wrote:
DarknessEternal wrote:
Still waiting for this book to become available.

Do you mean locally? I've had the book for over three weeks now; ordered directly through FW.

The one on the website to me is the non-updated version.

**Erik_Morkai**

DarknessEternal wrote:
Sarigar wrote:
DarknessEternal wrote:
Still waiting for this book to become available.

Do you mean locally? I've had the book for over three weeks now; ordered directly through FW.

The one on the website to me is the non-updated version.

This is the updated version: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Imperial-Armour-The-Doom-of-Mymeara

If you look at the pictures from the pages you will see the new Wraithknight.

**ColdSadHungry**

How can a wraithseer join a unit?

**vipoid**

ColdSadHungry wrote:
How can a wraithseer join a unit?

It's an IC.

**luke1705**

MC can join units if they are an IC (O'Vesa, etc) but IC can't join units that have a MC. But being a MC doesn't prevent you from joining a unit - it's just rare for a MC to have the IC rule.

**ColdSadHungry**

I have the new doom of mymeara and the wraithseer is just a character, not an independent character...

**Sarigar**

ColdSadHungry wrote:
I have the new doom of mymeara and the wraithseer is just a character, not an independent character...

Page 213 disagrees. Independent Character is listed under 'Special Rules'.

**Galef**

"Character" is a unit type in parenthesis next to Monstrous Creature. "Independent Character" is a special rule. So it is listed with the SRs

Edit: Dang, I got ninja'd

**Goobi2**

More importantly... Can the Wraithseer hop in a transport? ---nope.... sad face

**Sarigar**

I've gotten a few games in now with the book and the updated units, formations and Pale Court Core Choice are fantastic additions to an army.

I've run the Wraithseer as my Warlord (Pale Court Core choice) and he has been fairly good. The Warp Hunter Formation is really good, although I've only used the combined fire shot twice in 6 games.

I've been extremely happy with the new Wraithknight with Deathshroud Cannon. I was lacking a reliable way to go around cover saves and this works extremely well.

The Pale Court core choice is nice as due to the extreme flexibility it affords me when building a Craftworld Warhost (prior to this book, I used a Guardian Battlehost as my Core choice).

I've been reading the Corsair list and it is neat, but I don't see myself building a Corsair army anytime soon. The additions to a Craftworld army was well worth the money for this book.

**vipoid**

Here's a question for you guys, which do you think is best - an Autarch or a Corsair Prince?

**NG77**

Sarigar wrote:
I've gotten a few games in now with the book and the updated units, formations and Pale Court Core Choice are fantastic additions to an army.

I've run the Wraithseer as my Warlord (Pale Court Core choice) and he has been fairly good. The Warp Hunter Formation is really good, although I've only used the combined fire shot twice in 6 games.

I've been extremely happy with the new Wraithknight with Deathshroud Cannon. I was lacking a reliable way to go around cover saves and this works extremely well.

The Pale Court core choice is nice as due to the extreme flexibility it affords me when building a Craftworld Warhost (prior to this book, I used a Guardian Battlehost as my Core choice).

I've been reading the Corsair list and it is neat, but I don't see myself building a Corsair army anytime soon. The additions to a Craftworld army was well worth the money for this book.

What do the pale courts get you? And does that forfeit the 6" run from the battlehost?

**Sarigar**

Pale Court is a new Core Choice for a Craftworld Warhost formation. Its special ability is to be able to choose up to two traits from its chart. The Craftworld Warhost Command Benefit is Matchless Agility, the auto 6" run move. By choosing a Pale Court as your Core Choice, you still maintain Matchless Agility.

A Pale Court consists of the following:

1 Farseer
3 Guardian Defender Units
0-1 Warlock Conclave

In my particular case for the Pale Court, I took two traits: the first allowed me to switch out my Pale Court Farseer and use a Wraithseer, which was my Warlord. The other trait I chose allows me to take 1-3 Vaul's Wrath Batteries, in which I take 3 Shadow Weavers.

**NG77**

That sounds amazing, I'll definitely look into using that when I get the book, thanks!

**tikhunt**

Out of curiosity how easy is it to put together a viable list using only Games-Workshop models? proxies are great as long as it's close enough not to matter but I really want to pick these guys up without having to pick up any ForgeWorld as my Legion is already demanding sacrifices from my wallet. They seem like a fun list and I'd really like to put the hurt on the Tau who keep picking on my poor Orks.

**Sarigar**

I converted the Deathshroud Cannon using the Suncannon and an extra Nightspinner weapon.

II converted a Wraithlord into a Wraithseer using brass rod as the basis for the Ghost Spear.

I did buy FW Warp Hunters, however.

**Jimsolo**

tikhunt wrote:
Out of curiosity how easy is it to put together a viable list using only Games-Workshop models? proxies are great as long as it's close enough not to matter but I really want to pick these guys up without having to pick up any ForgeWorld as my Legion is already demanding sacrifices from my wallet. They seem like a fun list and I'd really like to put the hurt on the Tau who keep picking on my poor Orks.

If you didn't field the infantry with Corsair jet packs, you could field the whole army (barring the FW vehicles).

**vipoid**

Even with Jet Packs, you could always convert some from GW stuff:

(The first chap isn't painted, but hopefully you get the idea.)

Spoiler:

**tikhunt**

Is it viable to run them without vehicles though, the Nightwing I will convert from a Razorwing and the Wasps will be Warwalkers but other than that would pure infantry/jetbikes be viable?

**GrafWattenburg**

Will jetbikes be viable? Yes, yes they will.

You could also run some Venoms with two specialist weapons inside.

**vipoid**

tikhunt wrote:
Is it viable to run them without vehicles though, the Nightwing I will convert from a Razorwing and the Wasps will be Warwalkers but other than that would pure infantry/jetbikes be viable?

I'm actually planning to do something similar. I have some Venoms to use, and I can convert/proxy some Wasps and a Nightwing, but that's about it. Everything else will be Jet Infantry or Jetbikes.

**Jimsolo**

tikhunt wrote:
Is it viable to run them without vehicles though, the Nightwing I will convert from a Razorwing and the Wasps will be Warwalkers but other than that would pure infantry/jetbikes be viable?

Possible but not necessary if you're just trying to avoid FW purchases. Both the DT options are GW kits.