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Which of the supplement books covers wars of the roses? I'm seeing Plantagenet in the HC listings?

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Which of the supplement books covers wars of the roses?

Judging by Warlord's listings, the Late Anquity to medieval army list book for HC. There is no official supplemant dedicated just to that conflict.

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They do understand the M10 (and other vehicles on the chassis) were fitted with live track that did not sag on the VVSS units, right?

 sing your life wrote:
They do understand the M10 (and other vehicles on the chassis) were fitted with live track that did not sat on the VVSS units, right?

I guessing by your comment and the actual model pictures posted the answer is...no?

Yeah.....I must admit I can't see what the complaint is. Those tracks and suspension seem to match pictures of M10s:

decker_cky wrote:
Yeah.....I must admit I can't see what the complaint is. Those tracks and suspension seem to match pictures of M10s:

Except it doesn't match pictures of the M10 at all. All images of the tank I've seen have the upper track run as straight along the suspension (when it's not obscured by the skirts).

Wait, what's the complaint about the Italeri M10? I'm not sure I personally understand.

I *think* the complaint is that the tracks sag slightly (and that they shouldn't). I'm not actually sure the tracks *are* sagging from the pics - though the middle tank in the set of three seems to have some definite sag. There doesn't seem to be any in the shot straight on the tracks though (putting a paper up to the screen they seem flat).

@sing: If I'm misinterpreting, then please, with MS paint or something, point out what the error is.

You're interpreting it correctly, it's more obvious in the British scheme version since the U.S. Tank has snow all over the tracks.

You know, I'd be pulling the trigger on those Victrix Greek hoplites I'd wanted from this--free shipping and 10% off?



Too bad all but one is out of stock, and IIRC, has been for months...

I wonder if they're clearancing the Victrix boxes out, or if they'll be restocking them? Any idea on that, Doug?

You could try Arcane in Nottingham - they also have worldwide free shipping, and I've used them quite a few times for different historical stuff. My Victrix stuff has come from both them and Warlord at various times, depending on stock.
http://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/product-category/victrix-ltd/

Thanks--they're missing the mercenary hoplites, but Warlord has that, so it actually kinda works out.

Edit: Or I could be too slow, and the mercs sell out as well. That said, think I saw them on ebay/amazon, and arcane is STILL helpful, so meh, just means their sale doesn't work for them.

 judgedoug wrote:
Wait, what's the complaint about the Italeri M10? I'm not sure I personally understand.

Well, it's the oldest complaint in the book, the track sag! No matter what kit someone releases, there's always someone complaining that there's too much, too little or too correct amount of sag in the tracks, and that ruins the whole model.

If that fails, you can always start counting the track links - c'mon, everyone knows that the track of a M10 Wolverine should have 117 links, where I only count 116. Another model ruined by crappy designers who choose to ignore major details like this, oh well.

 prowla wrote:
Well, it's the oldest complaint in the book, the track sag! No matter what kit someone releases, there's always someone complaining that there's too much, too little or too correct amount of sag in the tracks, and that ruins the whole model.

If that fails, you can always start counting the track links - c'mon, everyone knows that the track of a M10 Wolverine should have 117 links, where I only count 116. Another model ruined by crappy designers who choose to ignore major details like this, oh well.

Have an exalt!

Save the rivet counting for scale modeling. This is a gaming piece!

 Polonius wrote:

 prowla wrote:
Well, it's the oldest complaint in the book, the track sag! No matter what kit someone releases, there's always someone complaining that there's too much, too little or too correct amount of sag in the tracks, and that ruins the whole model.

If that fails, you can always start counting the track links - c'mon, everyone knows that the track of a M10 Wolverine should have 117 links, where I only count 116. Another model ruined by crappy designers who choose to ignore major details like this, oh well.

Have an exalt!

Save the rivet counting for scale modeling. This is a gaming piece!

Except I wasn't rivet counting, just pointing out that the tracks should be straight for authenticity, espically considering that the previous resin version had them in the correct position. I still agree the model as a whole looks great.

 sing your life wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 prowla wrote:
Well, it's the oldest complaint in the book, the track sag! No matter what kit someone releases, there's always someone complaining that there's too much, too little or too correct amount of sag in the tracks, and that ruins the whole model.

If that fails, you can always start counting the track links - c'mon, everyone knows that the track of a M10 Wolverine should have 117 links, where I only count 116. Another model ruined by crappy designers who choose to ignore major details like this, oh well.

Have an exalt!

Save the rivet counting for scale modeling. This is a gaming piece!

Except I wasn't rivet counting, just pointing out that the tracks should be straight for authenticity, espically considering that the previous resin version had them in the correct position. I still agree the model as a whole looks great.

I suspect the difference is that they have reused the tracks from the plastic sherman, whereas the resin would have been separately sculpted. I imagine there will still be correctly sagless M10s out there for those who care to buy.

 prowla wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Wait, what's the complaint about the Italeri M10? I'm not sure I personally understand.

Well, it's the oldest complaint in the book, the track sag! No matter what kit someone releases, there's always someone complaining that there's too much, too little or too correct amount of sag in the tracks, and that ruins the whole model.

If that fails, you can always start counting the track links - c'mon, everyone knows that the track of a M10 Wolverine should have 117 links, where I only count 116. Another model ruined by crappy designers who choose to ignore major details like this, oh well.

Wait, tracks have no sag when first put on, but begin to sag over usage as the links stretch, correct? Eventually the sag becomes so great, that tracks have to be completely changed, otherwise that is how a tank throws a track.

Actually I think the sd kfz 251 was designed to have sag in it because it allowed the suspension to better function over cross-country (the tracks weren't as tight, so the wheels and suspension had more "stretch" due to the lack of tightness on the track)

So this M10 has sag because it's been on campaign for a few week and hasn't had it's track replaced yet.


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Not really, slack like that on this type of suspension means you are gonna throw track. The TC would be pissed at the driver for not adjusting track tension as he should be doing.

 CptJake wrote:
Not really, slack like that on this type of suspension means you are gonna throw track. The TC would be pissed at the driver for not adjusting track tension as he should be doing.

I dunno, there's plenty of pics of operational Sherman hull/track with lots of sag



But I am no track expert, just going by pics of them in action.

 judgedoug wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Not really, slack like that on this type of suspension means you are gonna throw track. The TC would be pissed at the driver for not adjusting track tension as he should be doing.

I dunno, there's plenty of pics of operational Sherman hull/track with lots of sag

Spoiler:

But I am no track expert, just going by pics of them in action.

Really the track sag on those Shermans you posted is extremely mild by any standard. By comparison, the amnount of sag on the M10 is about the same as the dead tracked plastic German tanks Warlord have put out.

Again, I'm no expert, but that second and third pics match the M10's sag pretty much perfectly.

Though really I defer to Prowla's excellent post. It literally matters zero to myself and I feel the vast majority of other people

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Shouldn't the DAK panzer platoon deal offer the their Panzer IV as an option? The F1 and G Ausfs were both used in North Africa.

EDIT: And what's a "Matildall"?

Matilda II, It's missing a space,



but it's important to have the II there as the Matilda actually looked like this (it actually fought in France alongside the Matilda II before it was realised it was totally obsolete)

I know exactly what tank Warlord were trying to write, I was humourously pointing out their typo. And the Matilda II was a lot more widely used than the I (all 3 fronts throughout the war compared to just France in 1940), so I don't think anyone would see the name Matilda and think of the original model first.

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Lancers = SOLD

French or British??

I like those LRDG trucks. Gaming a LRDG scenario in 28mm sounds like lots of fun!