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 Maniac_nmt wrote:
I haven't read through the rules yet
If you haven't read the rules, it's best not to draw conclusions about them - such as WLG is "jumping on the Ronin bandwagon" or "porting elements of Bolt Action."

First, there is no "Ronin bandwagon." Ronin was published in 2013 and that was that. It's a neat game but it didn't take the miniatures gaming world by storm or anything.

Second, I guess the Bolt Action reference you are making is semi-random activation. ToH and BA are actually totally different.

For those who don't know, every unit in your BA army contributes an "order die" to a pool along with your opponent's order dice. Dice are randomly drawn from the pool. If one of player A's dice are drawn, player A gets to activate a unit. This means player A can activate units back-to-back. Each unit is only activated once, generally.

In ToH, there are two kinds of units - samurai and commoners. Each unit has a stat describing the number of actions they may take in a turn. The unit contributes that many tokens of the respective type to the pool. So for example, a unit of Ashigaru spearmen contributes three commoner action tokens to the pool. During the turn, the players take turns drawing tokens and may activate a unit of the type corresponding to the drawn token up to their action stat number. So I could theoretically activate that Ashigaru spearman unit up to three times during a single turn - but I won't be activating any of my units back-to-back, as in BA.

Additionally, three Fate tokens also go into the pool. Once the third fate token is drawn, the turn ends and all the tokens (less any removed because of casualties) go back into the bad. The player who drew the third Fate token gets to draw first action token in the new turn. So not only is activation threaded - unlike BA - but the ToH activation mechanic also accounts for initiative. This is not a "port" from BA at all; it has a lot more in common with, for example, the card-based activation system in Sharpe Practice by TooFatLardies.

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Thanks for the comments on the Test of Honour rules Manchu.

Would definitely be interested in reading more if you ever do one of your write-ups down in the Historicals section

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Once I get my copy and can look over the cards, I'll do an overview on my blog. I think the basic rules are pretty solid. Hopefully I can get a batrep up quickly, too.

   
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New stuff for Bolt Action.

British Airborne or alternatively Polish Airborne.



British Airborne Jeep & Horsa Glider.



German Stug III



British Snipers.



Early War German Pak36



2cm Flak



USA Flamethrower Team



Bunkers






Also loads of British home guard stuff and other misc on link below.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/new-releases/bolt-action



The weirdest of these being The Great Panjandrum. Had to be British LOL.







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Lovely looking paratroopers, are those plastics ?

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 Pacific wrote:
Lovely looking paratroopers, are those plastics ?


Yep - They are quite nice aren't they - Mustn't start another game system though!

   
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Yep - They are quite nice aren't they - Mustn't start another game system though!


Actually surprisingly cheap to get a pretty good set together of two armies.

£70 = Band of Brothers box set which includes a hell of a lot for the money inc rules. Buy USA plastic halftrack for £17,1 extra USA Airborne sprue £6 and 3 extra German Grenadier Sprues for £18 and you have 2 pretty good teams (30 men each side and a Lt troop carrying vehicle each) to match up and some scenery/ruined houses in the starter all for £111.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-army/products/bolt-action-2-starter-set-band-of-brothers

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/us-army/products/m3a1-half-track-plastic-boxed-set

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-army/products/german-grenadier-sprue

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/us-airborne/products/us-airborne-sprue



My BoB set was actually missing the USA airborne and had German Blitzkrieg troops instead. I contacted Warlord and they sorted the matter out very efficiently and basically sent me a complementary box of USA airborne. Kudos Warlord customer service.

Anyway in the meantime I picked up a box of British plastic troops and managed to make 1x4 manHQ, 3x5 inf sects, 1x2 man Piat team and 1x2 man sniper team and 1x2 man forward observer team. Pretty awesome from one box of soldiers, then just bought a plastic Universal carrier and had a match up team for the Germans in the starter which I also purchased 3 more Grenadier Sprues for. I will put the USA Airborne team together next week and also pick up a halftrack in the near future, pretty much have 3 teams good to go then without even putting together the 24 German Blitkrieg soldiers that were packaged incorrectly, although I will get around to them.

One thing I noticed is a lot of the plastics are quite interchangeable for limbs with other nations armies and I actually used the map hand and binos from the Grenadier set to make my British officer and took the binos from the USA airborne set for my British forward observer and mixed a matched few other bits from the plastic sets I now have. I would advise you check out all the army sprues you get prior to putting any together to see what you can mix a match as it gives you more variety and options on the models.

Already put a pre order in with a local game store for the British airborne

I really hope Warlord expand on the plastic range and start adding plastic HQ & Support boxes for the various nations. They already have a pretty good plastic tank range which I will probably pick up a medium for the British, Germans and USA at some point.

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Presumably the Oswald Mosley and BUF models will be out soon as well? Looking at the Sea Lion book there was oddly a fair few of them (though their actual list is pants for competitive play).

The Home Guard armoured trucks (of which there are a few) could easily work for other fighting forces as well with a bit of tinkering, though some of the rules are a bit conflicting with existing stuff. "Improvised Armour" could apply to stuff like the Luftwaffe Opel Blitz mounting a flak gun for example. I suppose they're all in fun though.

Ah, as for plastic weapon teams. Rubicon's probably going to have those covered whenever they have their own kits on sale. Already you can pick up some from their vehicle upgrade kits (for instance, for the £9 the Combat Engineer kit sells for you have 2 wheeled Anti-Tank rifles, plus some other tat, compared to the one which Artizan and Warlord are selling per blister pack). ....With the added bonus of not having to deal with Warlord's super chunky looking plastics.
   
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 Wyrmalla wrote:
Presumably the Oswald Mosley and BUF models will be out soon as well? Looking at the Sea Lion book there was oddly a fair few of them (though their actual list is pants for competitive play).

The Home Guard armoured trucks (of which there are a few) could easily work for other fighting forces as well with a bit of tinkering, though some of the rules are a bit conflicting with existing stuff. "Improvised Armour" could apply to stuff like the Luftwaffe Opel Blitz mounting a flak gun for example. I suppose they're all in fun though.

Ah, as for plastic weapon teams. Rubicon's probably going to have those covered whenever they have their own kits on sale. Already you can pick up some from their vehicle upgrade kits (for instance, for the £9 the Combat Engineer kit sells for you have 2 wheeled Anti-Tank rifles, plus some other tat, compared to the one which Artizan and Warlord are selling per blister pack). ....With the added bonus of not having to deal with Warlord's super chunky looking plastics.

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Yeah the home guard theme looks like fun but not my scene

Are Rubicon planning to release soldier kits? I have seen some of their tanks when digging around on the net lately and I will admit they do have a slight edge on the Warlord plastic tank kits but not by much from what I can see, For the purpose of gaming it wouldn't make a heap of difference unless you are a spotter.

I actually think there is a massive synergy between the two companies and you could argue there should be a tie up between the two but that may not fit either ones company strategy? Also Rubicon seem to be going for a sharper look on their minis looking at ones that come with certain vehicles which wouldn't match Warlords ones although the tanks themselves look very similar to Warlords, Rubicon would also need to flesh out their vehicle range for different countries quite substantially. Warlord also suffers from a lack of soldier support options in plastic as it stands and not sure how Rubicon could enter that market as it would take some time for them to develop a plastic soldier range, Not sure why either company doesn't use Kickstarter to boost their ranges i.e. Warlord for the plastic soldiers support range and Rubicon to develop their tank range quicker, Mantic seem to use it to good effect. Anyway you never know what may happen down the road.

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