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 War Kitten wrote:
Only 5 Noise Marines? Prepare yourself for maximum scatter lasers and Wraith Knights.

You literally cant handle my Slaaneshi powers

I literally can handle them. Eldar are perfectly capable of fighting Slaneeshi cultists, CSM, and Demons. In fact Eldar get hatred against them in their codex.

 War Kitten wrote:
I literally can handle them. Eldar are perfectly capable of fighting Slaneeshi cultists, CSM, and Demons. In fact Eldar get hatred against them in their codex.

Not yet fam, gotta flesh out characters... In their gross cannabalistic Slaanesh Cult

Don't take too long, I have an Iron Warrior I still have to go fight

I still can't get over the fact that we're trying to kill each other, while also supporting each other in this crusade, WK.

5 marines? Dang, Archarus can run through that many in an hour, if my rolls are bad, and he kills them for incompetence. Vat born only though, or those half breed Imperial Fist Iron Warriors. They are not true Iron.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I still can't get over the fact that we're trying to kill each other, while also supporting each other in this crusade, WK.

5 marines? Dang, Archarus can run through that many in an hour, if my rolls are bad, and he kills them for incompetence. Vat born only though, or those half breed Imperial Fist Iron Warriors. They are not true Iron.

That's just how I roll 2BJ1. Plus that was how my Eldar came into the Crusade. I mean, I could have Lilliana get a vision that Archarus' ambtions no longer include attacking her Craftworld. I could have her realize that it was Pavus the whole time.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I still can't get over the fact that we're trying to kill each other, while also supporting each other in this crusade, WK.

5 marines? Dang, Archarus can run through that many in an hour, if my rolls are bad, and he kills them for incompetence. Vat born only though, or those half breed Imperial Fist Iron Warriors. They are not true Iron.

Supplies are a little scarce

Now that would be an embarrassing explanation to your CW. "You know that guy we were fighting because he's a threat? Well, about that..."

And TS, feel free to repent your Slaneeshi sins, and we will let you merge into Archarus' might, if things get too rough for you. Cannibalism? That's completely acceptable. I mean, if my Fallout character can do it...

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Buttery, I can write up Marcus, just outline what I'll try to get across, and you'll have a message in no time.

When I can drag my mind out of the gutter long enough to write a formal address, I'll get it rolling.

I just had an idea to change why my Eldar are here. Instead of going after 2BJ1 and Archarus, maybe Liliana should get a vision that points her to going after Pavus. HIS ambitions might lead to an attack on the Craftworld, so the entire Warhost would be going after him now. Thoughts?

If you want to switch your goals, I won't stop you. Have fun getting the New Order willing to attack another part of the crusade. Actually, I can see TS doing some backstabbery now that I think about it.

Ironically, your attack on Archarus probably was what would make him make your craft world a target of his.

Well, it was just that actually getting to you was going nowhere, and the prospect of taking on an entire Slaneeshi planet wasn't something I was looking forward to. I'm seeing what everyone else thinks. The Imperial forces are here to defend the system, I figured I should have a more general goal too, as just being here to kill one person doesn't give me much wiggle room to do anything beyond go after them

I'm just gonna say that last post from TS is feeling dangerously close to power trip wish fulfilment, and not in a way I'm entirely comfortable with. There's grim dark, revenge fantasies, and there's going back to "woman, get on the horse" style Conan in space.
I trust you guys as writers, but there are a few of my friends who already give CoF a swerve due to the direction it's taken with female portrayals.

Keep on keeping on, just be aware not everyone can see the intentions of what's being written, I guess.

[Butt joke]

I limit myself to having my Eldar characters be in a space-opera. So they argue, they occasionally fall in love, and then they go fight the Orks before coming back in time for dinner. I just leave it at that.

To be fair, Eldar are space elves, and therefore massive drama queens regardless of gender.
Just look at Tolkien for bitchy elves.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
To be fair, Eldar are space elves, and therefore massive drama queens regardless of gender.
Just look at Tolkien for bitchy elves.

The first part is true.

I resent the second remark as an Eldar player

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm just gonna say that last post from TS is feeling dangerously close to power trip wish fulfilment, and not in a way I'm entirely comfortable with. There's grim dark, revenge fantasies, and there's going back to "woman, get on the horse" style Conan in space.
I trust you guys as writers, but there are a few of my friends who already give CoF a swerve due to the direction it's taken with female portrayals.

Keep on keeping on, just be aware not everyone can see the intentions of what's being written, I guess.

[Butt joke]

Didn't I say something about her being a really great shot? I think Lucy is going to get a little fed up with her master and stab him like Chaos people do

Edit: Looking back, I just noticed the amount of power trip. I think I tried to play off the "Slaanesh angle" too much if you catch my drift. For the greater good of the thread, I will stick to the New Order and not come back to that.

I'm really sorry if that came off as heavy handed, TS, I just thought "if that makes me pause, then it'll be beyond what some people may find comfortable."

I wouldn't say give up, but perhaps have a look at the other parts of Slaanesh?

There's obsession with perfection, excess of senses, perversion/warping of art, etc.

A friend of the OH once had a very sinister "artist" RPG character that was living underground and "making wind instruments". He was collecting the bones of their slain enemies and hollowing them out into pipes and wind chimes that made music when breezes passed through the tunnels.

There are many ways to be chaotic, and I'm sure you can find them.

Slaneesh is definitely a chaotic one. (Sorry for the play on words.) (S)he's got many different routes you can take with worship.

Also, WK, I apologize for not letting things be more interesting between the Eldar and Archarus, so again, I support your decision to switch your Eldar's goals to make things better for your Eldar. What will the New Order do now, if the Eldar change their minds about the Iron Warriors, I wonder.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm really sorry if that came off as heavy handed, TS, I just thought "if that makes me pause, then it'll be beyond what some people may find comfortable."

I wouldn't say give up, but perhaps have a look at the other parts of Slaanesh?

There's obsession with perfection, excess of senses, perversion/warping of art, etc.

A friend of the OH once had a very sinister "artist" RPG character that was living underground and "making wind instruments". He was collecting the bones of their slain enemies and hollowing them out into pipes and wind chimes that made music when breezes passed through the tunnels.

There are many ways to be chaotic, and I'm sure you can find them.

I think I got a little side tracked with the "Prince of Pleasure" aspect of Slaanesh and went really tunnel visioned on that point. I originally wanted Luciel to be a perfectionist assassin, but came off with that... thing...

There's a reason why I tend to shy away from Slaneesh writings and female characters. I'm afraid I'll screw them up massively, and end up with a steaming load of grox gak. So, I stick to all male regiments, and Iron Warriors, who don't give a feth what you are, as long as you can work in the forges.

I tend to write what I'm familiar with (slightly verbose fruits, and sarcasm), and my shy-away area is combat. I've said it before, but I only have so many ways to say, "And then the red came out."

I don't have an issue writing a female character, as it's something I don't have trouble relating to, but because 40K does fee such a boys club, there feels this additional pressure to prove a point when writing one, which makes me wary.
Been considering a female Admech for a while, inspired by the Raging Heroes release (albeit not by her lack of shirt).

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I tend to write what I'm familiar with (slightly verbose fruits, and sarcasm), and my shy-away area is combat. I've said it before, but I only have so many ways to say, "And then the red came out."

I have to admit that I can't "Show, don't tell" to save my life. Of you compile everything I wrote, you will almost never get information about the surroundings. The only time I went out of my way to add those, were anything written to take place on the Warpath Furnace. I made sure you knew that was a hot ship (for reasons I can explain later)

Tactical_Spam wrote:I made sure you knew that was a hot ship (for reasons I can explain later)

What, like two space marines kissing?


Sorry, I spend too much time weathering idiot friends who use that word.


I'm a big fan of getting the reader to do some of the work for me if I describe a room. "Richly furnished" means they already have an idea, but I don't have to list every little object. I then drop a few items like paintings or colours, and the brain fills in the rest. Decorating is a lot easier than you'd think.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Tactical_Spam wrote:I made sure you knew that was a hot ship (for reasons I can explain later)

What, like two space marines kissing?


Sorry, I spend too much time weathering idiot friends who use that word.


I'm a big fan of getting the reader to do some of the work for me if I describe a room. "Richly furnished" means they already have an idea, but I don't have to list every little object. I then drop a few items like paintings or colours, and the brain fills in the rest. Decorating is a lot easier than you'd think.

I'm not one for decorating... at all.

Also what I meant by hot ship

Inquisitor Raela was quite accustomed to blistering heat, though the temperature of the Warpath Furnace was driving her into a frantic sweat

Its super toasty on that ship to lower the morale of any boarders. The entire crew is pretty used to it.

Oh I know, I just chose to ignore it.

I involuntarily know "ship" and "OTP" from female friends who enjoy Supernatural.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Oh I know, I just chose to ignore it.

I involuntarily know "ship" and "OTP" from female friends who enjoy Supernatural.

I know the feeling . I also learnt that anything can be shipped if you try hard enough, and that's something I don't like to dwell on.

Clearing up some issues, the Slaaneshi cultists on Gondorf's Passage are only led by five Noise Marine (try to scale back the power level here), but there are a ton of cultists. I mean, a LOT. Bit of backstory on them: orks were the first to invade the border world of Gondorf's Passage, mostly Speed Freeks. They terrorised a lot of the world. Many civilians, already more susceptible to "new ideas" looked on the orks with fascination and began emulating them, favouring loud noises and speed. Slaanesh sent Noise Marines down to fully corrupt the proto-Slaanesh cultists, and now they have an army, albeit one that only stays on world.

Now the world is locked in a deadly three-way battle: Speed Freeks, Speed Cultists, and the hapless PDF.
The cultists have control over the orbital defense grid that prevents entry and escape through the Mare Dracarian, and only through a trade of goods is the Iron Warriors allowed through, paying a tithe of fuel and scrap to the cultists.

Just posting to let you know I'm still here. I'll write something soon, but I'd like to see what Bobthehero has in mind first, I don't want to do anything that might mess up his ideas.

I was actually going to introduce a female character, but now I feel like I'm copying Buttery Commissar.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Spoiler:

Also, my way of making sure I don't mess up writing female characters?
I either don't put them in romantic situations, don't write them at all, or treat them as gender neutral. Hence why I prefer to use a character's surname a lot, could be either gender.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Spoiler:

Also, my way of making sure I don't mess up writing female characters?
I either don't put them in romantic situations, don't write them at all, or treat them as gender neutral. Hence why I prefer to use a character's surname a lot, could be either gender.

Spoiler:

No pain, no gain! Gotta try at some point

Chazz did a good job with Petra, and she basically ordered Shepard to marry her, hardly weak character needing of help. .