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 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Spoiler:

Also, my way of making sure I don't mess up writing female characters?
I either don't put them in romantic situations, don't write them at all, or treat them as gender neutral. Hence why I prefer to use a character's surname a lot, could be either gender.

Spoiler:

No pain, no gain! Gotta try at some point

Chazz did a good job with Petra, and she basically ordered Shepard to marry her, hardly weak character needing of help. .

Annala isnt a weak character either. I don't see your point

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Spoiler:

Also, my way of making sure I don't mess up writing female characters?
I either don't put them in romantic situations, don't write them at all, or treat them as gender neutral. Hence why I prefer to use a character's surname a lot, could be either gender.

Spoiler:

No pain, no gain! Gotta try at some point

Chazz did a good job with Petra, and she basically ordered Shepard to marry her, hardly weak character needing of help. .

Annala isnt a weak character either. I don't see your point

that female charecters become the damsal in distress, bridge bunny or other suport roles instead of being a leading and directing main character at times

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Spoiler:

Also, my way of making sure I don't mess up writing female characters?
I either don't put them in romantic situations, don't write them at all, or treat them as gender neutral. Hence why I prefer to use a character's surname a lot, could be either gender.

Spoiler:

No pain, no gain! Gotta try at some point

Chazz did a good job with Petra, and she basically ordered Shepard to marry her, hardly weak character needing of help. .

Annala isnt a weak character either. I don't see your point

that female charecters become the damsal in distress, bridge bunny or other suport roles instead of being a leading and directing main character at times

Considering the New Order is a "Space Marine chapter", the fact that Annala is making a difference at all is something

I'm not used to writing for female characters. So I'm still trying to see what writing style works for me regarding them. I'm trying to improve

 Tainted wrote:
Just posting to let you know I'm still here. I'll write something soon, but I'd like to see what Bobthehero has in mind first, I don't want to do anything that might mess up his ideas.

I was actually going to introduce a female character, but now I feel like I'm copying Buttery Commissar.

The speed I move at, it'll be weeks before my guys stop bitching at each other long enough to go planet side. Go for it. Unless you were specifically thinking engineseer, in which case my other thought was an astropath or scribe.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tainted wrote:
Just posting to let you know I'm still here. I'll write something soon, but I'd like to see what Bobthehero has in mind first, I don't want to do anything that might mess up his ideas.

I was actually going to introduce a female character, but now I feel like I'm copying Buttery Commissar.

The speed I move at, it'll be weeks before my guys stop bitching at each other long enough to go planet side. Go for it. Unless you were specifically thinking engineseer, in which case my other thought was an astropath or scribe.

Not a Missionary?

"Have you heard about our Lord and Saviour the God-Emperor of Mankind?"

"No, I don't believe in-"

"Bloody heretic!"

-insert flamer noises-

The sovereign respect the position of the Emperor (hence them using 'Throne' as a cuss rather than 'God-Emperor'), but on the whole they are not zealots.
The average man of the Imperium is cowed by inexperience and fear of the Unknown. It just isn't the case when you're traveling around in a band of explorers.

The guard and Selka may be more devout.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
The sovereign respect the position of the Emperor (hence them using 'Throne' as a cuss rather than 'God-Emperor'), but on the whole they are not zealots.
The average man of the Imperium is cowed by inexperience and fear of the Unknown. It just isn't the case when you're traveling around in a band of explorers.

The guard and Selka may be more devout.

Then you should add a Missionary!

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Unless you were specifically thinking engineseer, in which case my other thought was an astropath or scribe.

Don't worry, the character I had in mind was none of those things, she's a lieutenant. To be honest I just thought I'd get bored writing about one character, I don't really know why I decided they were going to be female.

Also while we're on the subject of writing female characters, I really liked the part about Petra's maternal instinct when she had to defend herself whilst pregnant. It shows her being a strong character, but at the same time she's not just being badass for the sake of being badass, she's defending her family.

 Tainted wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Unless you were specifically thinking engineseer, in which case my other thought was an astropath or scribe.

Don't worry, the character I had in mind was none of those things, she's a lieutenant. To be honest I just thought I'd get bored writing about one character, I don't really know why I decided they were going to be female.

Also while we're on the subject of writing female characters, I really liked the part about Petra's maternal instinct when she had to defend herself whilst pregnant. It shows her being a strong character, but at the same time she's not just being badass for the sake of being badass, she's defending her family.

Why can't they just be badasses for the sake of being a badass?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Why can't they just be badasses for the sake of being a badass?

I'm not saying they can't, it never hurts to be a badass, I'm just saying I like it when a character can be sympathetic at the same time. The fact that Petra was in a vulnerable position at the time, and that she was fighting more in defense of her child than her own sake, makes her easier to like as a character because the desire to protect somebody else is a motive everyone can relate to.

 Tainted wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Why can't they just be badasses for the sake of being a badass?

I'm not saying they can't, it never hurts to be a badass, I'm just saying I like it when a character can be sympathetic at the same time. The fact that Petra was in a vulnerable position at the time, and that she was fighting more in defense of her child than her own sake, makes her easier to like as a character because the desire to protect somebody else is a motive everyone can relate to.

Alright, so my Annala is safe. Just making sure

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tainted wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Why can't they just be badasses for the sake of being a badass?

I'm not saying they can't, it never hurts to be a badass, I'm just saying I like it when a character can be sympathetic at the same time. The fact that Petra was in a vulnerable position at the time, and that she was fighting more in defense of her child than her own sake, makes her easier to like as a character because the desire to protect somebody else is a motive everyone can relate to.

Alright, so my Annala is safe. Just making sure

To be fair I think Annala is pretty well written too. She's got her badass moments, but we still get to see her as a person and can sympathise with her emotionally.

I, on the other hand, am having some trouble with Mary Sue syndrome.

 Tainted wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tainted wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Why can't they just be badasses for the sake of being a badass?

I'm not saying they can't, it never hurts to be a badass, I'm just saying I like it when a character can be sympathetic at the same time. The fact that Petra was in a vulnerable position at the time, and that she was fighting more in defense of her child than her own sake, makes her easier to like as a character because the desire to protect somebody else is a motive everyone can relate to.

Alright, so my Annala is safe. Just making sure

To be fair I think Annala is pretty well written too. She's got her badass moments, but we still get to see her as a person and can sympathise with her emotionally.

I, on the other hand, am having some trouble with Mary Sue syndrome.

You have a problem with mary sues?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

You have a problem with mary sues?

I mean I struggle to make characters I write not end up being Mary Sues. But I'm learing quite a bit about proper character development from reading Crusade of Fury.

Tainted wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

You have a problem with mary sues?

I mean I struggle to make characters I write not end up being Mary Sues. But I'm learing quite a bit about proper character development from reading Crusade of Fury.

I default to writing perfectly reasonable, calm characters, and villains that concern me deeply. Not in this story, but when I write bad guys, I read it back and go, "Whatever I'm channeling there, I wish I wasn't."
I'm hoping to show the sort of conflicts a Captain goes through to stay in power, though.

Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
The sovereign respect the position of the Emperor (hence them using 'Throne' as a cuss rather than 'God-Emperor'), but on the whole they are not zealots.
The average man of the Imperium is cowed by inexperience and fear of the Unknown. It just isn't the case when you're traveling around in a band of explorers.

The guard and Selka may be more devout.

Then you should add a Missionary!

I'm just not a missionary sort of person.

Speaking of mary sues and plot lines, I am surprised no one made any connections with the Installation 934-A (directed at the people who have been around a while)

So orks land on the purple ortk world, all is going on whilst I fail to break my planet.

I do know about every known way to cook mushroom though....

A little bit about Nox and crew taking on some cultists.

I decided to put most of my named characters into this exert (Except Gadnuk's Gutrippas there's like 10 of those guys and it gets confusing if there are too many named guys in one little scene. which reminds me if anyone wants to learn more about those guy's back story you can see it here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/648404.page)

Back to my point heres a mostly complete list and short descrption of my named orks in WAAAGH WarpRida

Primary

Nox WarpRida Big Mek, Warboss, and founder of WAAAGH WarpRida

Gadnuk Eadwoppa Ork Kommando leader of the Gutrippas

Da Doof Ork Shaman and WAAAGH visionary

Secondary

Sarge-Git BoneBleeda "Bleeda for short" Gadnuk's second in command

Ronin, Blood Axe Stormboy Nob

Kaptin BloodTalon Ork Freebooter

Dok Krusha Nox's Chief pain boy

Agh, yes, I remember that thread :-)

Unfortunately for you Chazz my Eldar didn't even bother landing on the planet. There were too many cultists and stuff there. But now that you've started clearing them out I might be able to land there now. With my New Order buddies.

Just don,t be too obvious, im only a short hop from you.

Not that I'm actively hunting eldar, I have bigger mushrooms to fry.

 jhe90 wrote:
Just don,t be too obvious, im only a short hop from you.

Not that I'm actively hunting eldar, I have bigger mushrooms to fry.

mhhh fried mushrooms

 chazz huggins wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Just don,t be too obvious, im only a short hop from you.

Not that I'm actively hunting eldar, I have bigger mushrooms to fry.

mhhh fried mushrooms

I have billions more if fausteens are running low ;-)

I feel like after I'm done being violated on Trisburg, I should look into mushroom Rogue Trading as a Meals on Wheels activity.

Even with losses on the fog planet, I shipped ernpough flavourless mushrooms to last for months. Like 7.5 million crates

Guess who has the tasty ones!
You're welcome to buy some mushrooms BC, send a ship and collect :-)

And TS I think I'm past hobby level mushroom farming lol

Well Fairfax certainly has the resources to turn them into gourmet dishes and offer delivery.

...Stop that, I'm trying to write an address to the governor.

Buttery Commissar wrote:
Well Fairfax certainly has the resources to turn them into gourmet dishes and offer delivery.

...Stop that, I'm trying to write an address to the governor.

Then send lord Marshall Karak a message, and I'm sure I can get you the better mushrooms :-)

Be nice, he is rather unwilling to be insulted by unalted humans, not one to loose face ior status kindly (keep commisar at home!)

 jhe90 wrote:
Even with losses on the fog planet, I shipped ernpough flavourless mushrooms to last for months. Like 7.5 million crates

Guess who has the tasty ones!
You're welcome to buy some mushrooms BC, send a ship and collect :-)

And TS I think I'm past hobby level mushroom farming lol

Changed the meme

 jhe90 wrote:

Buttery Commissar wrote:
Well Fairfax certainly has the resources to turn them into gourmet dishes and offer delivery.

...Stop that, I'm trying to write an address to the governor.

Then send lord Marshall Karak a message, and I'm sure I can get you the better mushrooms :-)

Be nice, he is rather unwilling to be insulted by unalted humans, not one to loose face ior status kindly (keep commisar at home!)

Be careful, if Fairfax hears there's a venture to be made of it, he may go into business and undercut you.