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I mean, talk to my agent about possible hiring. My agent being Jhe and his Space Wolves.

I'll eat the Tyranids...

...more like free range chicken

Feral orks, mutant trees and fire-breathing bunnies... Is there anything on the planet not trying to kill us? Not that I'm complaining. I love a good hunt.

Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?

Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?

Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?

There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).

I refuse to be railroaded, I dislike trains.

I wonder how my Eldar are going to be railroaded. My Knights go with Jhe's Wolves, so that's already settled, I'm just curious how my Elfdar will be railroaded.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?

Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?

There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).

I do not think railroading is fair.
Saying "Look, I need the green marines to land on the north site and the red marines to land south, stick to that, here is the history of what you'd know." is a balance.
You or chazz giving anyone direct input on their characters motivations before the campaign even starts is very different..?

No disrespect to anyone, but I'm doing with my marines/crons what I'm going to do with them. If I'm doing "A" and I'm told to do "B", I'm doing "A"

I have the Stubborn special rule...

I don't see why my factions (or anyone else's) would need railroading at all. We are fully capable of coming up with introductions for our factions.

Also, please don't tell me we are going to have a set way of progression, as in we have certain guidelines and targets that our factions have to do, rather than the writers doing what they want to do with their factions. I'm a little worried about how far this plot really goes, especially when the purpose of the crusade is to allow the writers freedom to do what they want. Or attempt it, taking the rolls into account.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?

Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?

There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).

I do not think railroading is fair.
Saying "Look, I need the green marines to land on the north site and the red marines to land south, stick to that, here is the history of what you'd know." is a balance.
You or chazz giving anyone direct input on their characters motivations before the campaign even starts is very different..?

It more runs along the lines towards Imperium aligned forces, but I cannot confirm anything.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I don't see why my factions (or anyone else's) would need railroading at all. We are fully capable of coming up with introductions for our factions.

Also, please don't tell me we are going to have a set way of progression, as in we have certain guidelines and targets that our factions have to do, rather than the writers doing what they want to do with their factions. I'm a little worried about how far this plot really goes, especially when the purpose of the crusade is to allow the writers freedom to do what they want. Or attempt it, taking the rolls into account.

Its a little harder to have a lot of freedom when we are all on one planet...

I want to make a Braveheart pun about freedom...

but I'm deciding on what to buy for my Carcharodons first... I would do the BaC set but it says they use a lot of Mk V Heresy armor...

TS, we did have occasions on the first crusade of being on one planet, and still people had freedom. This is more in depth, sure, but it's still possible. And just how far does this plot go, I don't see why we can't just come up with the background for the planet, including wildlife and the like, and be done with it. I won't be happy if my factions already have a storyline made out for them instead of others deciding what to do with them.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
TS, we did have occasions on the first crusade of being on one planet, and still people had freedom. This is more in depth, sure, but it's still possible. And just how far does this plot go, I don't see why we can't just come up with the background for the planet, including wildlife and the like, and be done with it. I won't be happy if my factions already have a storyline made out for them instead of others deciding what to do with them.

Agreed, it took me 2 hours to make the original background and everything

If you're scripting us, that isn't fun.
We didn't sign on to follow a movie plot you wrote for us, we signed on to an open ended campaign in a setting. This isn't a pen and paper RPG night.

You guys are making this really hard for me...

Well, that's what happens when you try to railroad, mild or not

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
You guys are making this really hard for me...

To be honest TS, you're making it pretty hard for us as well.

Maybe give us a rough direction but let us decide our own paths, tactics and routes.

Yes we need some direction abut but leave us all to do as we do.
Plus as we write we may make new ployts and ideas anyway

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
You guys are making this really hard for me...

Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.

You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.

Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
You guys are making this really hard for me...

Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.

You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.

Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.

I am not the only GM. I can only tell you so much and have you do so much before its steps into Chazz's territory, who is the mastermind behind Crion. If you want to know any more gak, ask Chazz. Imma peace out and sit on the side lines from now on when it comes to any questions.

What parts are you guys doing between you, then?

And I want to say I'm not pissed or anything, I'm explaining why you get this reaction.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
You guys are making this really hard for me...

Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.

You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.

Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.

I am not the only GM. I can only tell you so much and have you do so much before its steps into Chazz's territory, who is the mastermind behind Crion. If you want to know any more gak, ask Chazz. Imma peace out and sit on the side lines from now on when it comes to any questions.

Why haven't we heard from Chazz at all? I'd love to hear what he's planning.

And when the idea of CoF:2 started everything was based off writer feedback mind you

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

Why haven't we heard from Chazz at all? I'd love to hear what he's planning.

You and me both.

So, you do wildlife and wildlife accessories and Chazz is everything else, correct?

Someone really should try to PM Chazz and see what's going on

Here's my idea. We use the original background and map. (Which was my job)

It's ready to go by tomorrow at the latest

It's a large map with more to it and the story allows anyone to be here for whatever reason but also gives a good reason for forces to be there should they want to be their for that reason.

Do you guys want to hear it?

I'm willing to hear it, I just don't want to step on Chazz and TS's toes too much, but maybe it'll help

Ok, here's the original background:

The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.

There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.

Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.

1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.

The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.

Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.

So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?


That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?