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 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I don't know if Falkon would remember many scions by name, but it's hard to forget the look of the people who killed your men. He won't have the power to act on it, but he'll play with the idea of shooting a few of them.

He might talk?
Some factions in crusade may not be as friendly to a traitor?

'' Traitor ''

The 85th is still loyal to the Imperium, make no mistakes.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
And of course, I can't write for Aurelius. I don't intend for his death, but he's completely in Ezra's hands. You're free to write anything for him, or absolutely nothing. I don't really mind at this point.

I'm seriously considering what I'm going to do with him, I think having his eventual fate a mystery would round out that subplot pretty well; and every story needs its loose ends, doesn't it

Although the Sorcerer did promise to return him someday...

 Bobthehero wrote:
'' Traitor ''

The 85th is still loyal to the Imperium, make no mistakes.

You betrayed your allies, turned artillery on allies. Yes your traitors. My space wolves may keep guns firmly loaded near your scions. Plus my wolf lord hates deception.

You're assuming he'll actually find out about it? The only way he really could is either from Falkon, or if I somehow bring in my Ultramarines into COF 2

Following orders from a greater Imperial autority

And funnily enough, the only allies I really had ended up semi betraying, or rather, using me, its pretty interesting.

I can imagine Nasira and Gallus and the rest of the Pavus-loving lot doing their absolute best to make sure their own version of the truth was spread out across the Imperium, so no-one should know of their betrayal (except for the few stragglers who managed to escape, but they keep their mouth shut to prevent another inter-Imperial war from breaking out)

Now if someone were to leak some pic-captures of the event to key Imperial officers in the second Crusade... now that would raise some questions, wouldn't it?

 War Kitten wrote:
You're assuming he'll actually find out about it? The only way he really could is either from Falkon, or if I somehow bring in my Ultramarines into COF 2

To be frank, rumour has a way of reaching the most unlikely of ears...

 Ezra Tyrius wrote:
I can imagine Nasira and Gallus and the rest of the Pavus-loving lot doing their absolute best to make sure their own version of the truth was spread out across the Imperium, so no-one should know of their betrayal (except for the few stragglers who managed to escape, but they keep their mouth shut to prevent another inter-Imperial war from breaking out)

Now if someone were to leak some pic-captures of the event to key Imperial officers in the second Crusade... now that would raise some questions, wouldn't it?

That would be interesting to say the least.

Rumurs find a way to listioning ears.

Not too far fetched as it only takes one to reveal the secret.

Pics can be faked out/don't tell the real story. Isn't it awfully convinient that an entire Section died with no comms?

Well, if the Sera (sorry if I got the name wrong, WK) asks about howhat Falkon knows the scions, I doubt he would leave that out, and the Knights are associated with the SW, so word could travel through that as wrll.

That's fine, Scions works well on their own.

2BlackJack1 wrote:Well, if the Sera (sorry if I got the name wrong, WK) asks about howhat Falkon knows the scions, I doubt he would leave that out, and the Knights are associated with the SW, so word could travel through that as wrll.

"The" Sera? She's just Sera my friend.

Bobthehero wrote:That's fine, Scions works well on their own.

Well, you might have a Knight fighting alongside you, as my Knights would try to keep out of that fighting. They weren't there, so they don't know all the facts.

True. It'll always be the word of one source versus another, but it might throw a little wrinkle in the relations between the Imperials

What could also play a role is the reputation of Pavus himself; I don't doubt his name would ring a bell with a lot of Imperial commanders, and perhaps his reputation might make his compatriots look more suspicious when such evidence surfaces...

Long as they don,t betray the wolves. :-)

They may find the 85th needs a new leader rather quickly.
The ferrasian death has a rather big, very accurate rifle!

Sorry, I was going to say High Queen, but changed it to Sera because I wasn't sure if that was her title either. (I'm bad with Knight house ranks). Apparently I forgot to get rid of "the" in there.

 jhe90 wrote:
Long as they don,t betray the wolves. :-)

They may find the 85th needs a new leader rather quickly.
The ferrasian death has a rather big, very accurate rifle!

They betrayed 2 Chapters at once and semi got away with it.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Sorry, I was going to say High Queen, but changed it to Sera because I wasn't sure if that was her title either. (I'm bad with Knight house ranks). Apparently I forgot to get rid of "the" in there.

Ok. Here's the impromptou layout for my House

Moira Valorn: High Queen (Head Honcho):

Amanda Valorn: Herald (Represents House Valorn)

Sera Valorn: Kingsward (Bodyguard)

Cassius Valorn: Master of Judgement

 Bobthehero wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Long as they don,t betray the wolves. :-)

They may find the 85th needs a new leader rather quickly.
The ferrasian death has a rather big, very accurate rifle!

They betrayed 2 Chapters at once and semi got away with it.

Only because it was not deemed worth pressing the issue. However bad not, or not been protected, goodbye 85th.

Though any veterans of battle probably know when to keep mouths shut. The surviving scions too.

 War Kitten wrote:
You're assuming he'll actually find out about it? The only way he really could is either from Falkon, or if I somehow bring in my Ultramarines into COF 2

I'm just gonna point out that Fairfax is literally sat on Trisburg and is by trade, a subtle information broker, along with Ed having various loyalist escapees on the ship.
He's not going to reveal his hand, especially as it may endanger his family, but there are several leaks in that seal.


And no worries smudge, I just didn't want to physically steal someone's character and deny them an ending!

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
You're assuming he'll actually find out about it? The only way he really could is either from Falkon, or if I somehow bring in my Ultramarines into COF 2

I'm just gonna point out that Fairfax is literally sat on Trisburg and is by trade, a subtle information broker, along with Ed having various loyalist escapees on the ship.
He's not going to reveal his hand, especially as it may endanger his family, but there are several leaks in that seal.


And no worries smudge, I just didn't want to physically steal someone's character and deny them an ending!

Maybe. I'm just saying the odds of Jhe's guys finding out soon is very low. Later on maybe, but right away? No.

The way I kind of wrote the ending pretty much gives the victorious side (Tallarn and Scions) a form of immunity, seeing as Nasira is now Sector Governor, and can keep the Scions for trouble from any Chapters who come knocking. As a result, if Tainted and Bobthehero so decide, their forces should be completely immune to any retribution that isn't rolled for. And even then, they still have enough political clout to survive.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
The way I kind of wrote the ending pretty much gives the victorious side (Tallarn and Scions) a form of immunity, seeing as Nasira is now Sector Governor, and can keep the Scions for trouble from any Chapters who come knocking. As a result, if Tainted and Bobthehero so decide, their forces should be completely immune to any retribution that isn't rolled for. And even then, they still have enough political clout to survive.

Honestly I was thinking more in how perceived, not direct attack. For example the space wolves might not be so willing to back Detta, or introduced as col friendly fire etc it known. Influence reactions etc.

I'm curious about something related to my ending. How long would it take Julius to get some replacement legs? I would imagine that he wouldn't go legless all the way to Macragge. Also, I'm assuming he would get bionic ones, but I want to double check in case you were planning on getting him some fancy vat grown organic limbs. I have no doubts that House Fairfax has some rather good doctors on board, and possibly an apothecary could have made it there as well from the fighting? I don't want to step on your toes, so I figured it would be better to ask now rather than have issues later.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I'm curious about something related to my ending. How long would it take Julius to get some replacement legs? I would imagine that he wouldn't go legless all the way to Macragge. Also, I'm assuming he would get bionic ones, but I want to double check in case you were planning on getting him some fancy vat grown organic limbs. I have no doubts that House Fairfax has some rather good doctors on board, and possibly an apothecary could have made it there as well from the fighting? I don't want to step on your toes, so I figured it would be better to ask now rather than have issues later.

My original plan was that he used whatever his Apothecary could get together, and when he got to Macragge he went about getting the good replacements.

Who's yet to post their Outro?

I am, WK is working on his marines, and I believe BC has another part of his RT. (I'm losing track of time these last couple days, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.)

I'm working on my Histan outro, and I expect to finish it sometime today. I just have been trying to fit characters into it without blatantly smashing them into it, that worked with my Kroot intro because it was supposed to introduce all, but I was going for something a little more subtle.

I got my Marine outro posted already.

My apologies, I had somehow missed it. I suppose relying on the 'first unread' isn't always the best, as it can skip around sometimes on me. If it's worth anything, I read it now and quite liked it. It gave the infuriating fact that you know they killed your men, your commander knows thru killed your men, and you still can't do anything about it.