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 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
i would say it depends on how well organized and set up EoN is. Also what kind of weapons he has on his cultists and what kind of control over the city.

I think most of his Cultists have auto-guns, and whatever explosives they can create. I'd have to ask him myself, but I think I could make a landing ok. It's be pushing into the Hive that would be difficult

They started this way, but having taken over Cogger they have equipment comparable with a Hive City's IG garrison, plus a bunch of home brew weapons. Doesn't mean they're that good at using either, but the air defense guns would make paradropping into the city itself hazardous at the least and straight suicidal at the worst.

Although, a huge part of the city's southern wall was blown apart befor the Battle of the Maw, so if you want to drop in to the south and a climb a small mountain of dead orks, then you'd have a decent entry point

 TheEyeOfNight wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
i would say it depends on how well organized and set up EoN is. Also what kind of weapons he has on his cultists and what kind of control over the city.

I think most of his Cultists have auto-guns, and whatever explosives they can create. I'd have to ask him myself, but I think I could make a landing ok. It's be pushing into the Hive that would be difficult

They started this way, but having taken over Cogger they have equipment comparable with a Hive City's IG garrison, plus a bunch of home brew weapons. Doesn't mean they're that good at using either, but the air defense guns would make paradropping into the city itself hazardous at the least and straight suicidal at the worst.

Although, a huge part of the city's southern wall was blown apart befor the Battle of the Maw, so if you want to drop in to the south and a climb a small mountain of dead orks, then you'd have a decent entry point

Thanks for that, I was about to go PM you to ask about that. I might have to just push my way in through the south wall.

 War Kitten wrote:

 TheEyeOfNight wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
i would say it depends on how well organized and set up EoN is. Also what kind of weapons he has on his cultists and what kind of control over the city.

I think most of his Cultists have auto-guns, and whatever explosives they can create. I'd have to ask him myself, but I think I could make a landing ok. It's be pushing into the Hive that would be difficult

They started this way, but having taken over Cogger they have equipment comparable with a Hive City's IG garrison, plus a bunch of home brew weapons. Doesn't mean they're that good at using either, but the air defense guns would make paradropping into the city itself hazardous at the least and straight suicidal at the worst.

Although, a huge part of the city's southern wall was blown apart befor the Battle of the Maw, so if you want to drop in to the south and a climb a small mountain of dead orks, then you'd have a decent entry point

Thanks for that, I was about to go PM you to ask about that. I might have to just push my way in through the south wall.

Or you could just wait for reinforcements that can do that a lot better than paratroopers.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

 TheEyeOfNight wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
i would say it depends on how well organized and set up EoN is. Also what kind of weapons he has on his cultists and what kind of control over the city.

I think most of his Cultists have auto-guns, and whatever explosives they can create. I'd have to ask him myself, but I think I could make a landing ok. It's be pushing into the Hive that would be difficult

They started this way, but having taken over Cogger they have equipment comparable with a Hive City's IG garrison, plus a bunch of home brew weapons. Doesn't mean they're that good at using either, but the air defense guns would make paradropping into the city itself hazardous at the least and straight suicidal at the worst.

Although, a huge part of the city's southern wall was blown apart befor the Battle of the Maw, so if you want to drop in to the south and a climb a small mountain of dead orks, then you'd have a decent entry point

Thanks for that, I was about to go PM you to ask about that. I might have to just push my way in through the south wall.

Well. I DID promise Drakka I'd go help him out after the Gargant is done. And I AM THE REINFORCEMENTS
Or you could just wait for reinforcements that can do that a lot better than paratroopers.

Well, if thats the case, my Marines won't be able to help either. They'll be reeling from the gargant thing which won't go well for me.

Spoilers btw/

Well at least this group of choas should be contained until more people can push into the city.

Remember, these are cultists. The big toys are coming out soon(Traitor Astartes), and that will be when gak will hit the fan. I really think the grey knights won't be able to do all that much if the Falyed Lord and/orKusun say hi.

Which means I need to get in there and get dug in as soon as possible

Paratroopers digging in? Isn't that like...The oppostite of what you do?

That will be a pain but then it will be back into their perfered mode of combat.

Harass Supply lines, Hit and run tactics, destroy communications, and other second tier targets.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Paratroopers digging in? Isn't that like...The oppostite of what you do?

Not really. I drop into an area, secure it, then defend it against all comers.

Vanden, how do you know you're going to get crushed? I don't even have the info on your success/failure. Unless you're either A) Joking (which is my guess) or B) you have something in mind and are a masochist. If you want characters injured during the battle, send me a PM, I'll fit it in. You won't be the first person to do it, but I'm not going to say who wanted me to injure a character, or if they still want me to even do it. Spoilers ruin fun, after all.

I really don't think a couple birds with wet wings'll be able to stave off the lions of the dark gods.

Edit: Deep boop PM coming.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I really don't think a couple birds with wet wings'll be able to stave off the lions of the dark gods.

It's nice to see you have faith in me Vanden. Gives me the warm n' fuzzies

Glad to be of service friend.

And I'm not lying. There have been very few occasions when Imperials SUCCESSFULLY held off a warband of Chaos Astartes without the help of at least one Space Marine chapter.
Sure, you have Grey Knights, but they're spread thin.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Glad to be of service friend.

And I'm not lying. There have been very few occasions when Imperials SUCCESSFULLY held off a warband of Chaos Astartes without the help of at least one Space Marine chapter.
Sure, you have Grey Knights, but they're spread thin.

There's also two Guard regiments heading there. I think we can at least be a speed bump so one of the Marine chapters can show up and take all the credit

Well, you have Airborne troops that are stuck in the confines of a hive, sentinels, in the confines of a hive, horsies and dragon riders, confined in the narrow streets, of a hive, chimeras traveling down narrow streets that are most likely defended by anti-armour patrols, against one, possibly two, warbands of chaos, and an entire rebellion.

Good luck Guardsmen.

 War Kitten wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Glad to be of service friend.

And I'm not lying. There have been very few occasions when Imperials SUCCESSFULLY held off a warband of Chaos Astartes without the help of at least one Space Marine chapter.
Sure, you have Grey Knights, but they're spread thin.

There's also two Guard regiments heading there. I think we can at least be a speed bump so one of the Marine chapters can show up and take all the credit

This and we are not your average regiments. I am not saying we will win but at least my regiment are an elite calvary unit who make any army wish for better logistics.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Well, you have Airborne troops that are stuck in the confines of a hive, sentinels, in the confines of a hive, horsies and dragon riders, confined in the narrow streets, of a hive, chimeras traveling down narrow streets that are most likely defended by anti-armour patrols, against one, possibly two, warbands of chaos, and an entire rebellion.

Good luck Guardsmen.

Armored Sentinels with Heavy Flamers are pretty dang scary even for MEQ's in close-quarters, as are Tauros' driven by skilled drivers (aka my guys). I can't speak much for Drakka's guys, but a bunch of freakin' mini dragons are pretty good in CC I'd reckon.

I do not doubt either of you, but I do believe you are in a bit too deep the second the Traitors come in.

But knowing WK, hes gonna stay there until the end of time doing his duty. A true warrior of the corpse-go-*Erhem* Emperor.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I do not doubt either of you, but I do believe you are in a bit too deep the second the Traitors come in.

But knowing WK, hes gonna stay there until the end of time doing his duty. A true warrior of the corpse-go-*Erhem* Emperor.

Vanden, you'd probably say that pretty much any Guard regiment in the Hive is fethed. At least I'm an Infantry Regiment, so I'm not bogged down by a bunch of heavy vehicles.

I would probably demolish a part of the hive and use it as a killzone. Collateral will be through the roof, but this is the Imperium. It's worse than WWII Russia.

 War Kitten wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Well, you have Airborne troops that are stuck in the confines of a hive, sentinels, in the confines of a hive, horsies and dragon riders, confined in the narrow streets, of a hive, chimeras traveling down narrow streets that are most likely defended by anti-armour patrols, against one, possibly two, warbands of chaos, and an entire rebellion.

Good luck Guardsmen.

Armored Sentinels with Heavy Flamers are pretty dang scary even for MEQ's in close-quarters, as are Tauros' driven by skilled drivers (aka my guys). I can't speak much for Drakka's guys, but a bunch of freakin' mini dragons are pretty good in CC I'd reckon.

Well I modeled the regiment to be the second most skilled regiment out of my arsenal. Only the Warhawks regiment was more elite. Think of these guys as more cowboy versions of Storm Troopers. Tauros, Sentiels, and Motorcyclists to control the streets.

Don't forget Half of the regiment is setting up a blockade of sorts to stop, arms, ammo, food, water, medicine, or anything else from entering or leaving the city.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I would probably demolish a part of the hive and use it as a killzone. Collateral will be through the roof, but this is the Imperium. It's worse than WWII Russia.

I can probably do something similar if I so desire. Guard equivalent of C4, a few buildings, boom; instant killzone.

Besides, they're all filthy traitors anyway

Now you're getting it. A few lost lives here to save even more somewhere else.

Edit: I'm sounding like someone, but I don't know who...

Man maybe I should have kept my mouth shut and just used a seige version of my armored regiment and leveled the place. Lol.

Drakka77 wrote:
Man maybe I should have kept my mouth shut and just used a seige version of my armored regiment and leveled the place. Lol.

You COULD bring in a second force like a few of us on here have. Have your armored regiment be your "second" force

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
Man maybe I should have kept my mouth shut and just used a seige version of my armored regiment and leveled the place. Lol.

You COULD bring in a second force like a few of us on here have. Have your armored regiment be your "second" force

You really do not want TS to keep his sanity do you? I think he has a lot of rolls to get back to people, adding wood to that fire isn't wise.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
Man maybe I should have kept my mouth shut and just used a seige version of my armored regiment and leveled the place. Lol.

You COULD bring in a second force like a few of us on here have. Have your armored regiment be your "second" force

You really do not want TS to keep his sanity do you? I think he has a lot of rolls to get back to people, adding wood to that fire isn't wise.

It's only fair. He mind-feths us, we test his sanity with all our rolls. Drakka could just keep it as a part of his overall Guard force, just like another Strikeforce

 War Kitten wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

Drakka77 wrote:
Man maybe I should have kept my mouth shut and just used a seige version of my armored regiment and leveled the place. Lol.

You COULD bring in a second force like a few of us on here have. Have your armored regiment be your "second" force

You really do not want TS to keep his sanity do you? I think he has a lot of rolls to get back to people, adding wood to that fire isn't wise.

It's only fair. He mind-feths us, we test his sanity with all our rolls. Drakka could just keep it as a part of his overall Guard force, just like another Strikeforce

I at least think we should as TS FIRST before we get peoples hopes up. I am thinking in the long tun here.