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 dameanone wrote:
 agnosto wrote:
Not necessarily a hygiene issue but I recently had an issue with Discount Games. I preordered a Skitarii getting started bundle and am still waiting more than a month after payment. No communication unless I initiate it about the delay or anything just silence until I inquire via email and then a continued song and dance about supply while other retailers magically have stock and even increase stock during the month I've been waiting. It's not even the $66 really, I don't like being jerked around.

It's funny they offer a 30-day guarantee on E-Bay; I bet those people are getting their produce somehow.

Thank god for PayPal is all I can say. I'll be sure to get my money back.

/end bitter rant



Literally same exact thing just happened to me dude. Ordered the Skitarii getting started set from them over almost six weeks ago. Contact them via email they gladly refunded the purchase. They offer a good discount, but are extremely slow sometimes!


They seem like nice people and offered to refund me whenever I like but seriously, how can a business expect someone to wait 6 weeks + for existing product that they can buy almost anywhere? It's about as annoying as an airline overbooking seats.

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 agnosto wrote:
 dameanone wrote:
 agnosto wrote:
Not necessarily a hygiene issue but I recently had an issue with Discount Games. I preordered a Skitarii getting started bundle and am still waiting more than a month after payment. No communication unless I initiate it about the delay or anything just silence until I inquire via email and then a continued song and dance about supply while other retailers magically have stock and even increase stock during the month I've been waiting. It's not even the $66 really, I don't like being jerked around.

It's funny they offer a 30-day guarantee on E-Bay; I bet those people are getting their produce somehow.

Thank god for PayPal is all I can say. I'll be sure to get my money back.

/end bitter rant



Literally same exact thing just happened to me dude. Ordered the Skitarii getting started set from them over almost six weeks ago. Contact them via email they gladly refunded the purchase. They offer a good discount, but are extremely slow sometimes!


They seem like nice people and offered to refund me whenever I like but seriously, how can a business expect someone to wait 6 weeks + for existing product that they can buy almost anywhere? It's about as annoying as an airline overbooking seats.

If they're not a retailer buying direct from GW? I could see it.

That Skitarii set and the Tau set have been in/out of stock since the day it went up for preorder. My local GW cannot keep them in stock. They get bought up as soon as they come in.
   
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 the_Armyman wrote:
 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
A local FLGS use to give out great discounts, had exclusive models and a second hand bin. I use to go there every chance I got (which, due to it being 2 cities away, I rarely got a chance) and snatched up whatever caught my eye, but I could never play there due to the distance.

One day I came in and rummaged through the second-hand 40k box like I usually do, saw nothing interesting and put it back. As I did so one of the workers (not sure if he's the new manager or not) was right behind me and "kindly" informed me of their new policy:

Anything in the "clearance" or "consignment" section is not available to non-members of the store. The tables are off limits too; they're for members only. The only stuff I'm allowed to buy are the normal, packaged GW stuff and sealed MTG boosters; none of the singles or the binders were available to me as I wasn't a member. He then told me that I could get around this by just signing up for a membership. Then he showed me the "levels" of membership: 60 dollars a month got me the standard 20% discount on Warhammer and Warhammer 40k stuff. 120 (or was it 150, can't remember but it was something pretty ludicrous) got me 30% off and use of the tables. for a whopping 250 something a month, I got all of those "benefits" and also access to the consignment bin.

Oh and I had to spend a minimum of 200 dollars each time to actually get those discounts and benefits. I left the store and never looked back. A few weeks later I saw someone post in the Warhammer facebook group about the store; on top of all those shenanigans they decided that they weren't gonna hand out change anymore; if you paid in cash and didn't have the EXACT change, they instead gave you a gift voucher for the remaining difference.


I cannot believe a word of this unless you provide the name and location of this store. Half of this sounds utterly ridiculous, and the other half sounds illegal. Not giving people back change but a gift voucher? The first time a store attempted this, I'd be on the phone with the local police department


The gift voucher shenanigans was someone else posted online, so I cannot verify if it was true or if it's just a disgruntled customer making an outrageous claim (and considering I might be losing real moolah on it, I'm not gonna try anytime soon). I'm reluctant on giving out the name because I actually did get attacked by rabid fans of the store (all of whom were members) the last time I publicly outed them, and that's not something I'd like to have happen again (but I can PM you the name if you want). The membership thing was real though since I lived through it.

EDIT: Also this was before the Canadian dollar took a dip. It was around Feb 2014.

I talked to some disgruntled ex-employees. The shop basically turned into a private club for the owner and his closest pals; I think the only reason he even still keeps it as a shop is to get a discount while ordering from GW so he doesn't have to pay normal prices, and get some money from the occasional rube he cons.

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Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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I have a true horror story for you guys...

So around six years ago, I drove about an hour and a half to have a game of 40k Apoc with my friends. I hadn't seen them in a while, with my wife being pregnant and all.

I had at least a couple thousand points of Blood Angels, not including superheavies, at the time (I had started them with the PDF codex) and was finally putting down my last model on the table. Just as I put Dante down, my phone began to ring.

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.

The true horror? Responsibility

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 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.


It's a shame you had to miss the birth


The same thing happened to me and the new Star Wars launch.
   
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Herzlos wrote:
 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.


It's a shame you had to miss the birth


The same thing happened to me and the new Star Wars launch.


Well, maybe if you encouraged her to keep it quiet, you know, not scream out due to the ridiculous pain, she could've come to deliver in the theater, and you would have witnessed two great things happening... at the same time!

/bad joke

Honestly, after reading through this thread, I feel basically spoiled to have not dealt with anything truly terrifying of the sorts. The worst thing that is happened was me nearly slipping into a semi-TFG state when a friend's CCB/Overlord would not die back in that little window after 7th ed came out, but before the Necrons codex happened where reanimation became more of a FNP style roll. It'd get tipped, and get back up and kill some more stuff. Rinse and repeat. I was alarmed by my own levels of salt, and made sure to apologize for it.


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Herzlos wrote:
 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.


It's a shame you had to miss the birth


The same thing happened to me and the new Star Wars launch.


Haha I did not miss the birth! I think I would have gotten divorced a lot sooner than I did, had I missed the birth of my daughter so that I could play a game of 40k! I had plenty of time to drive back and get her and take her to the birthing ward.

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 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
I have a true horror story for you guys...

So around six years ago, I drove about an hour and a half to have a game of 40k Apoc with my friends. I hadn't seen them in a while, with my wife being pregnant and all.

I had at least a couple thousand points of Blood Angels, not including superheavies, at the time (I had started them with the PDF codex) and was finally putting down my last model on the table. Just as I put Dante down, my phone began to ring.

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.

The true horror? Responsibility


One of the many reasons I miss childhood.

My responsibility only extended to my homework deadline and remembering clean underwear.

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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
I have a true horror story for you guys...

So around six years ago, I drove about an hour and a half to have a game of 40k Apoc with my friends. I hadn't seen them in a while, with my wife being pregnant and all.

I had at least a couple thousand points of Blood Angels, not including superheavies, at the time (I had started them with the PDF codex) and was finally putting down my last model on the table. Just as I put Dante down, my phone began to ring.

My wife was going into labor with my 2nd child.

The true horror? Responsibility


One of the many reasons I miss childhood.

My responsibility only extended to my homework deadline and remembering clean underwear.

Aye, those where the good old days.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
 the_Armyman wrote:
 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
A local FLGS use to give out great discounts, had exclusive models and a second hand bin. I use to go there every chance I got (which, due to it being 2 cities away, I rarely got a chance) and snatched up whatever caught my eye, but I could never play there due to the distance.

One day I came in and rummaged through the second-hand 40k box like I usually do, saw nothing interesting and put it back. As I did so one of the workers (not sure if he's the new manager or not) was right behind me and "kindly" informed me of their new policy:

Anything in the "clearance" or "consignment" section is not available to non-members of the store. The tables are off limits too; they're for members only. The only stuff I'm allowed to buy are the normal, packaged GW stuff and sealed MTG boosters; none of the singles or the binders were available to me as I wasn't a member. He then told me that I could get around this by just signing up for a membership. Then he showed me the "levels" of membership: 60 dollars a month got me the standard 20% discount on Warhammer and Warhammer 40k stuff. 120 (or was it 150, can't remember but it was something pretty ludicrous) got me 30% off and use of the tables. for a whopping 250 something a month, I got all of those "benefits" and also access to the consignment bin.

Oh and I had to spend a minimum of 200 dollars each time to actually get those discounts and benefits. I left the store and never looked back. A few weeks later I saw someone post in the Warhammer facebook group about the store; on top of all those shenanigans they decided that they weren't gonna hand out change anymore; if you paid in cash and didn't have the EXACT change, they instead gave you a gift voucher for the remaining difference.


I cannot believe a word of this unless you provide the name and location of this store. Half of this sounds utterly ridiculous, and the other half sounds illegal. Not giving people back change but a gift voucher? The first time a store attempted this, I'd be on the phone with the local police department


The gift voucher shenanigans was someone else posted online, so I cannot verify if it was true or if it's just a disgruntled customer making an outrageous claim (and considering I might be losing real moolah on it, I'm not gonna try anytime soon). I'm reluctant on giving out the name because I actually did get attacked by rabid fans of the store (all of whom were members) the last time I publicly outed them, and that's not something I'd like to have happen again (but I can PM you the name if you want). The membership thing was real though since I lived through it.

EDIT: Also this was before the Canadian dollar took a dip. It was around Feb 2014.

I talked to some disgruntled ex-employees. The shop basically turned into a private club for the owner and his closest pals; I think the only reason he even still keeps it as a shop is to get a discount while ordering from GW so he doesn't have to pay normal prices, and get some money from the occasional rube he cons.

He sounds like the kind of lucky guy who's got plenty of money and can afford to treat the gamestore as a hobby and not have to worry about it actually turning a profit to stay open.

His way of running it certainly shows that making money is not a primary concern.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I think the only reason he even still keeps it as a shop is to get a discount while ordering from GW so he doesn't have to pay normal prices, and get some money from the occasional rube he cons.


Hardly worth paying taxes, utilities, rent, etc just to get a 40% discount on GW products.

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There is something of a horror story happening at my local gw at present, which is a shame as I used to work there. Last year a new manager took over, seemed like a very nice bloke, when he found out I used to work there he asked for my opinion on a lot of things, which I thought was nice. He introduced his own way of doing things, as is his right as store manager, however, as we have warhammer world up the road, the 'my way or the highway' approach that had obviously worked for him in previous stores (where he had done well) didn't get the result he'd planned on. Rather than accept having to phone in advance for games and painting seats, 75%ish of the regular visitors simply went to whw instead. That's when things went odd. He took it very personally, and rather than accept that it wasn't a decision that was appropriate for the store, thought some regulars (who are friends of mine) where deliberately trying to sabotage him. I'll say now, they definitely weren't. Anyway, last summer I finished my teacher training and had a 9 week summer break, so went to whw quite a lot, but still bought everything from the store I'd worked in. He asked why I was gaming there, and if I'd game in store to try and get people back in, AoS was just about to be released, so I organized half a dozen games in store with various "defectors". By this point, in his store, in three months, I'd bought a harlequin army, a cult mech army, preordered AoS, and bought the pestilent swarm box. So I was trying to help support the store. Thing was, every time I was in, at least once, he'd properly tell off one of the mos, on the shop floor. He replaced me, and is a really good friend (it's only because he has now left that I'm posting this). So seeing him treated in such a manner made me feel very uncomfortable. I went less and less, and the people I'd tried to encourage to go back didn't, for their own reasons. I found out later that the manager had made a huge deal out of me buying an £11 model online rather from the store, and thought I shouldn't have been allowed to exchange it for a £25 box in store as I hadn't bought the original purchase there. He tried telling my mate I was only friends with him for what I can get (I already have more than I could build and paint in 5 years), and accused another friend of not going to his store because he was getting discount from a friend that worked in the exhibition hall. He seems determined to believe that everyone else is out to get him, rather than consider that he might have made a few fixable mistakes. I've stopped going. Whw and 4tk-gaming get my hobby money now.

There was also quite a lot of other dubious practice going on, but it isn't appropriate for me to comment on that.

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Just a small one.

Okay I got a small one but definitely not bad at all compared to some true horror stories. For this we go back to young me at age of about 8 so about twenty years ago. My friend is a super geek and I love talking to the guy and he was always telling me where he was buying new comics and anime videos and since I was into Gundam Wing at that time I really wanted to get the anime boxed set or even just the tv movie that came out. He swore up and down at this FLGS friendly atmosphere and expert knowledge of things. I asked around and other people had the same experience. So I make it a point to pester my parents to take me and see if I can buy something. Time passes and I am now due to get my anime dvd gundam wing endless waltz I am super hyped and happy. Make the trip across the city.

I arrive and me and my dad are not greeted with a big smile but an accusation stare like we're crooks who just walked in to case the joint. I'm a little intimidated since I'm so young and my dad just doesn't give a gak so he walks around looking. I go up to him and the owner just sneers at me like I'm some disgusting kid. I mean I was a kid but I wasn't disgusting or anything. At least I didn't think so. "Can you order me an anime dvd?" He just points at the wall and says look at his stock. It's not there. "Hey it's not here so can you order it or not?" He looks at me kind of angry like I'm ruining his whole life. I don't tell him who sent me here or how high their recommendations were. feth this donkey-cave he will be judged by 8 year old me. My friend said he orders new stuff in and it should only take a week or two at most maybe a month for something obscure and far away. "I want to order Gundam Wing Endless Waltz" He doesn't reply to me and looks like I've ruined his whole day making him move his fat ass over to the end of the counter like I asked him to do chores or something. He had this childish dumb look and he is supposed to be an adult and he looked old enough to have grandkids. He spends an inordinately long time wasting my time pretending to look for it. "Uh yeah that will be at least 6 months or more." I look at him like he is crazy "Six months? I was told you can get almost anything quickly." He just shakes his head and starts reading his computer. My dad at this point is a little confused as to why this guy is being a prick but he can see I'm dealing with it. "The mall has a store that can have it here in a few weeks to a month tops though. I was told to come here to support the geek community." Just waves me off "Sorry can't help you." He even charged more than the mall. I don't undestand how he is in business.

Years later I went back to this place because my friend swore I caught him on a bad day. This time I was just going in to look at Warhammer 40k. He looked at me and despite it being years clearly recognized me since he did have a small crowd and his smile went off his face. Like he looked like santa and then like Professor Snape when he stared at me. I ask him about Warhammer 40k and the first thing he says before anything else "This game is expensive kid." In like an accusation way that someone like me and my dad couldn't POSSIBLY have money. He was selling whatever edition of 40k was current I didn't pay attention much back then I was only thinking of getting into it. 140 CAD for the core rules and that was with a much stronger economy than we have now. "Wow that's expensive I say trying to lighten the mood". He stops drinking to stare at me "Yeah. IT IS." Well thanks a lot for trying to sell a customer your goods you fat donkey-cave. He wouldn't answer any questions about it at all to me but would to others. Other people got starter discounts. THen he says "Are you going to buy anything!?" Me and my dad look at each other like hell no. We left and I never did get into 40k for years and years until a few years ago at this WAAAY better FLGS that is super friendly and popular while the other guys scrapes by the other FLGS is booming and looking to expand. I got my starter discount from him and everything. My friend still says the bad fat ass owner is super friendly.

Just not to me and my dad it appears. If it wasn't for him being an donkey-cave maybe I would have been a 40k TT player long ago.

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To this day I tell people not to go there.


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 JamesY wrote:
There is something of a horror story happening at my local gw at present, which is a shame as I used to work there. Last year a new manager took over, seemed like a very nice bloke, when he found out I used to work there he asked for my opinion on a lot of things, which I thought was nice. He introduced his own way of doing things, as is his right as store manager, however, as we have warhammer world up the road, the 'my way or the highway' approach that had obviously worked for him in previous stores (where he had done well) didn't get the result he'd planned on. Rather than accept having to phone in advance for games and painting seats, 75%ish of the regular visitors simply went to whw instead. That's when things went odd. He took it very personally, and rather than accept that it wasn't a decision that was appropriate for the store, thought some regulars (who are friends of mine) where deliberately trying to sabotage him. I'll say now, they definitely weren't. Anyway, last summer I finished my teacher training and had a 9 week summer break, so went to whw quite a lot, but still bought everything from the store I'd worked in. He asked why I was gaming there, and if I'd game in store to try and get people back in, AoS was just about to be released, so I organized half a dozen games in store with various "defectors". By this point, in his store, in three months, I'd bought a harlequin army, a cult mech army, preordered AoS, and bought the pestilent swarm box. So I was trying to help support the store. Thing was, every time I was in, at least once, he'd properly tell off one of the mos, on the shop floor. He replaced me, and is a really good friend (it's only because he has now left that I'm posting this). So seeing him treated in such a manner made me feel very uncomfortable. I went less and less, and the people I'd tried to encourage to go back didn't, for their own reasons. I found out later that the manager had made a huge deal out of me buying an £11 model online rather from the store, and thought I shouldn't have been allowed to exchange it for a £25 box in store as I hadn't bought the original purchase there. He tried telling my mate I was only friends with him for what I can get (I already have more than I could build and paint in 5 years), and accused another friend of not going to his store because he was getting discount from a friend that worked in the exhibition hall. He seems determined to believe that everyone else is out to get him, rather than consider that he might have made a few fixable mistakes. I've stopped going. Whw and 4tk-gaming get my hobby money now.

There was also quite a lot of other dubious practice going on, but it isn't appropriate for me to comment on that.


Sounds like that manager was a bit paranoid. Learning to recognize and deal with mentally ill folks can be tricky.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
A local FLGS use to give out great discounts, had exclusive models and a second hand bin. I use to go there every chance I got (which, due to it being 2 cities away, I rarely got a chance) and snatched up whatever caught my eye, but I could never play there due to the distance.

One day I came in and rummaged through the second-hand 40k box like I usually do, saw nothing interesting and put it back. As I did so one of the workers (not sure if he's the new manager or not) was right behind me and "kindly" informed me of their new policy:

Anything in the "clearance" or "consignment" section is not available to non-members of the store. The tables are off limits too; they're for members only. The only stuff I'm allowed to buy are the normal, packaged GW stuff and sealed MTG boosters; none of the singles or the binders were available to me as I wasn't a member. He then told me that I could get around this by just signing up for a membership. Then he showed me the "levels" of membership: 60 dollars a month got me the standard 20% discount on Warhammer and Warhammer 40k stuff. 120 (or was it 150, can't remember but it was something pretty ludicrous) got me 30% off and use of the tables. for a whopping 250 something a month, I got all of those "benefits" and also access to the consignment bin.

Oh and I had to spend a minimum of 200 dollars each time to actually get those discounts and benefits. I left the store and never looked back. A few weeks later I saw someone post in the Warhammer facebook group about the store; on top of all those shenanigans they decided that they weren't gonna hand out change anymore; if you paid in cash and didn't have the EXACT change, they instead gave you a gift voucher for the remaining difference.

This actually sounds like a good way to make sure you completely kill your own business. Sounds like they were failing then really desperate to come up with that.


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 kronk wrote:
 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I think the only reason he even still keeps it as a shop is to get a discount while ordering from GW so he doesn't have to pay normal prices, and get some money from the occasional rube he cons.


Hardly worth paying taxes, utilities, rent, etc just to get a 40% discount on GW products.

[Obligatory "maybe the taxes, utilities, rent, etc are actually cheaper than the 40% discount from GW products" post]

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 JamesY wrote:
There is something of a horror story happening at my local gw at present, which is a shame as I used to work there. Last year a new manager took over, seemed like a very nice bloke, when he found out I used to work there he asked for my opinion on a lot of things, which I thought was nice. He introduced his own way of doing things, as is his right as store manager, however, as we have warhammer world up the road, the 'my way or the highway' approach that had obviously worked for him in previous stores (where he had done well) didn't get the result he'd planned on. Rather than accept having to phone in advance for games and painting seats, 75%ish of the regular visitors simply went to whw instead. That's when things went odd. He took it very personally, and rather than accept that it wasn't a decision that was appropriate for the store, thought some regulars (who are friends of mine) where deliberately trying to sabotage him. I'll say now, they definitely weren't. Anyway, last summer I finished my teacher training and had a 9 week summer break, so went to whw quite a lot, but still bought everything from the store I'd worked in. He asked why I was gaming there, and if I'd game in store to try and get people back in, AoS was just about to be released, so I organized half a dozen games in store with various "defectors". By this point, in his store, in three months, I'd bought a harlequin army, a cult mech army, preordered AoS, and bought the pestilent swarm box. So I was trying to help support the store. Thing was, every time I was in, at least once, he'd properly tell off one of the mos, on the shop floor. He replaced me, and is a really good friend (it's only because he has now left that I'm posting this). So seeing him treated in such a manner made me feel very uncomfortable. I went less and less, and the people I'd tried to encourage to go back didn't, for their own reasons. I found out later that the manager had made a huge deal out of me buying an £11 model online rather from the store, and thought I shouldn't have been allowed to exchange it for a £25 box in store as I hadn't bought the original purchase there. He tried telling my mate I was only friends with him for what I can get (I already have more than I could build and paint in 5 years), and accused another friend of not going to his store because he was getting discount from a friend that worked in the exhibition hall. He seems determined to believe that everyone else is out to get him, rather than consider that he might have made a few fixable mistakes. I've stopped going. Whw and 4tk-gaming get my hobby money now.

There was also quite a lot of other dubious practice going on, but it isn't appropriate for me to comment on that.


We had a guy like that once at our local GW. We went as far as Sheffield to get away from him. Then we got lost and couldn't find said GW but by happenstance bumped into the manager of it in the street (who was on his day off too) who recognised our cases and lead us there.

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@snurl yeah, I've probably got more experience than average with mental illness, didn't spot the signs of paranoia until I was told that I had been accused of covertly trying to sabotage the store though. That completely blind sided me after I'd done quite a lot to try and support it.

@grimtuff I was a regular at the lincoln store from when it opened in the 90's until around 2000. I remember a couple of very avoidable managers (the era of Stewart, Daz and Craig where the glory days, very fond memories). I think I've seen you refer to dog-**** Dave before, I used to know him personally outside of the gaming scene (friend of a friend of my parents). When I told him I was a gamer, I got a two hour lecture on his collection of Napoleonic miniatures, characters, colour schemes, the lot. Kinda killed that party for me.

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I... actually don't know. Help?

You know what I hate? People who can't respect that you're playing. Seriously, I know my codex, I don't need your help. What is up with people coming up and telling me what to shoot at/assault? They even go as far as to move my models for me!

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 Matthew wrote:
You know what I hate? People who can't respect that you're playing. Seriously, I know my codex, I don't need your help. What is up with people coming up and telling me what to shoot at/assault? They even go as far as to move my models for me!



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 Matthew wrote:
You know what I hate? People who can't respect that you're playing. Seriously, I know my codex, I don't need your help. What is up with people coming up and telling me what to shoot at/assault? They even go as far as to move my models for me!


Ha ha, I think the thing that is worse than back seat gamers is when you catch your self doing it. Doesn't happen often at all, but on those rare moments I give myself a stern (internal) telling off.

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 JamesY wrote:


@grimtuff I was a regular at the lincoln store from when it opened in the 90's until around 2000. I remember a couple of very avoidable managers (the era of Stewart, Daz and Craig where the glory days, very fond memories). I think I've seen you refer to dog-**** Dave before, I used to know him personally outside of the gaming scene (friend of a friend of my parents). When I told him I was a gamer, I got a two hour lecture on his collection of Napoleonic miniatures, characters, colour schemes, the lot. Kinda killed that party for me.


TBH I'd never met the guy, just heard stories of him from staffers. Small world eh?

Thinking back I can't even remember the manager in question; I know it was some point before the GK codex existed as on the trip to Sheffield in question one of us was using radical Daemonhunters. Though I do have a fair few tales of GW staff that are awful (both of these go back many years to when I was a teenager) such as a certain someone who seemed to despise geeky conversations instore (even about GW products ) and when I was geeking out about something he felt the need to quip "Is that why you're still a virgin?" Herp derp, so fething funny. feth that guy.
That guy made me feel so belittled when you dared ask him anything. I was painting some Army of the Dead for LOTR and asked if the "3 colours minimum" thing still applied. I was told to "Release my sphincter". Yes, because both of those are appropriate responses...

Then we had the manager whose catchphrase seemed to be "Get out my store" and who told me straight to my face that I was awful at converting.

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
It's not legal here.
I mean neither is touching other people without consent, but the mace is a clearer issue.


I think this thread should be renamed to "Buttery finds yet another handsy scumbag". Sounds like you attract them
"Harry Potter Buttery and the Chamber of Repressed FLGS Incidents".

Basically I was in a new town for the day, and stopped over in a store to look at board games on the way to go home. Place was dead, and a guy in a badly fitting tracksuit and baseball cap follows me in. Already I'm getting the "he's come in here to make fun of the customers" vibe, so I ignore him.

He comes over, and the short of it was I made polite conversation and he suddenly starting hugging and kissing me whilst I tried to shove him away. He again, had a height and build advantage.
[He gets irritated] "I was just being friendly!"
"Stop!"
"Look, I'll walk you home, where do you live?"
[Complete confusion] "What? No! Bugger off you daft bastard!"
"Fine, Jesus. I was just being friendly!" [Storms out]
I turn to the shop staff who had been silently watching the entire time, hoping for some kind of assistance, and he just goes "Yeah that lad gets around a lot."

I have never gone back, weirdly.


What the hell!!? Do you put out some kind of pheromone that makes men act like dicks or what? That has to be awfully frustrating to you.


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 JamesY wrote:
 Matthew wrote:
You know what I hate? People who can't respect that you're playing. Seriously, I know my codex, I don't need your help. What is up with people coming up and telling me what to shoot at/assault? They even go as far as to move my models for me!


Ha ha, I think the thing that is worse than back seat gamers is when you catch your self doing it. Doesn't happen often at all, but on those rare moments I give myself a stern (internal) telling off.


I have a friend who calls the backseat gamer types, "rules mumblers", because they would appear seemingly out of no where in the middle of our games and in a low voice give a half heard rule then fade out of sight, not to be seen anywhere.

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 Bookwrack wrote:
He sounds like the kind of lucky guy who's got plenty of money and can afford to treat the gamestore as a hobby and not have to worry about it actually turning a profit to stay open.

His way of running it certainly shows that making money is not a primary concern.


That was pretty much his attitude when I was there. He didn't like people getting touchy with the merchandise (even if it's just to look at the back) and was rarely at the counter if he was running an event. In fact whenever a weekend MTG event happened, the store was only "open" so he could host the event (which he played in). Someone else had to man the cash register or the customers that weren't there for the event had to wait till his game finished.

The only good thing that came out of this (for me) was that his absentmindedness often caused him to price things wrong and cheaper than they were. I got 4 obliterators (three metal, one finecast) from him for 8 bucks in total once, and then an old metal Ogre Gorger for 3 bucks. He sorta just wanted to get my purchase done so he can get back to the game and assumed everything I grabbed was from the 2 dollar bin (I had a number of plague marines that were in the bin and he lumped it all together).

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Basically I was in a new town for the day, and stopped over in a store to look at board games on the way to go home. Place was dead, and a guy in a badly fitting tracksuit and baseball cap follows me in. Already I'm getting the "he's come in here to make fun of the customers" vibe, so I ignore him.

He comes over, and the short of it was I made polite conversation and he suddenly starting hugging and kissing me whilst I tried to shove him away. He again, had a height and build advantage.
[He gets irritated] "I was just being friendly!"
"Stop!"
"Look, I'll walk you home, where do you live?"
[Complete confusion] "What? No! Bugger off you daft bastard!"
"Fine, Jesus. I was just being friendly!" [Storms out]
I turn to the shop staff who had been silently watching the entire time, hoping for some kind of assistance, and he just goes "Yeah that lad gets around a lot."

I have never gone back, weirdly.


How in the feth did I miss this post?

Y'know, I understand the whole 'I don't want to get involved' thing, sorta. I mean, I've seen it enough times guys sticking their nose where it wasn't needed or wanted only to have it lopped off for their trouble. But THIS takes the fething cake.

Buttery, I don't know you, man/woman/french, but this gak was deserving of violence. The FLGS staff should've been on that guy like gak on velcro on principle alone, never mind the fact that he's assaulting a (possible) customer. Man, coupled with some of the other stories I really think you must've done something in a past life to warrant all of this attention, like burned down an orphanage or admitted to liking Nickleback.

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 Frankenberry wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Basically I was in a new town for the day, and stopped over in a store to look at board games on the way to go home. Place was dead, and a guy in a badly fitting tracksuit and baseball cap follows me in. Already I'm getting the "he's come in here to make fun of the customers" vibe, so I ignore him.

He comes over, and the short of it was I made polite conversation and he suddenly starting hugging and kissing me whilst I tried to shove him away. He again, had a height and build advantage.
[He gets irritated] "I was just being friendly!"
"Stop!"
"Look, I'll walk you home, where do you live?"
[Complete confusion] "What? No! Bugger off you daft bastard!"
"Fine, Jesus. I was just being friendly!" [Storms out]
I turn to the shop staff who had been silently watching the entire time, hoping for some kind of assistance, and he just goes "Yeah that lad gets around a lot."

I have never gone back, weirdly.


How in the feth did I miss this post?

Y'know, I understand the whole 'I don't want to get involved' thing, sorta. I mean, I've seen it enough times guys sticking their nose where it wasn't needed or wanted only to have it lopped off for their trouble. But THIS takes the fething cake.

Buttery, I don't know you, man/woman/french, but this gak was deserving of violence. The FLGS staff should've been on that guy like gak on velcro on principle alone, never mind the fact that he's assaulting a (possible) customer. Man, coupled with some of the other stories I really think you must've done something in a past life to warrant all of this attention, like burned down an orphanage or admitted to liking Nickleback.


Hey, whoa; that's not cool! Accusing a person of liking Nickelback! For shame!!


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 Frankenberry wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Basically I was in a new town for the day, and stopped over in a store to look at board games on the way to go home. Place was dead, and a guy in a badly fitting tracksuit and baseball cap follows me in. Already I'm getting the "he's come in here to make fun of the customers" vibe, so I ignore him.

He comes over, and the short of it was I made polite conversation and he suddenly starting hugging and kissing me whilst I tried to shove him away. He again, had a height and build advantage.
[He gets irritated] "I was just being friendly!"
"Stop!"
"Look, I'll walk you home, where do you live?"
[Complete confusion] "What? No! Bugger off you daft bastard!"
"Fine, Jesus. I was just being friendly!" [Storms out]
I turn to the shop staff who had been silently watching the entire time, hoping for some kind of assistance, and he just goes "Yeah that lad gets around a lot."

I have never gone back, weirdly.


How in the feth did I miss this post?

Y'know, I understand the whole 'I don't want to get involved' thing, sorta. I mean, I've seen it enough times guys sticking their nose where it wasn't needed or wanted only to have it lopped off for their trouble. But THIS takes the fething cake.

Buttery, I don't know you, man/woman/french, but this gak was deserving of violence. The FLGS staff should've been on that guy like gak on velcro on principle alone, never mind the fact that he's assaulting a (possible) customer. Man, coupled with some of the other stories I really think you must've done something in a past life to warrant all of this attention, like burned down an orphanage or admitted to liking Nickleback.
Looking back with my adult hat on, or if I saw someone do that to somebody else, I would have called the police because there was CCTV for the store, and tried to get the guy slapped with one of those things that gets you banned from town centre stores that follow the policy.

Back then I was 19, somewhat assumed it was my fault (the leading line was "I like your boots..."), and the total lack of reaction from the staff seeing a teenager being I guess at minimum, bothered by a mentally compromised young man, sold to me that I was making a fuss over nothing.

They teach you to stay safe of a night: buy your own drinks, never get in unmarked cabs, travel in groups of three, etc. They don't tell you how to react to someone half molesting you in broad daylight with others watching. I had zero idea.
This was nearly a decade ago, and it still bothers me that he could have gone on to do this to younger people, and I fethed up in not doing anything.





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I have so many of these...

One that still makes me mad though to think about it comes to mind immediately. My friends and I basically ran one of the shops in a small chain of hobby stores in the area for quite some time. It was a great gig at the time, discount, friends, etc. The main issue though was for some reason the people that got hired (besides ones within our gaming group) by and large were just off.

The one involved in this one though, man, was just gross...

He was the type of guy that would stop was he was doing, register, conversation, or dealing with a customer, to run to the window if he thought an attractive woman was walking by. We were maybe 18ish at the time and he was 30 or so but without fail he would just start in on "what he would like to do..." again, oblivious to his surroundings. He carried sweat rags all the time despite the cold climate, you get the idea.

We all kept some of our favorite models in the display case near the register as conversation pieces to help sell product but generally the rule was don't touch other peoples stuff. There was really no reason to either, it was a nice case. But one day I came in to see the newly painted, super converted unit of rat ogres I made had sprouted a truly frightening amount of mold all over them.

After investigation, it turned out this guy was taking my stuff out to look at quite a bit and while he was eating mall food, messily as he was prone to do. Standing orders went out that violence was to be used should a fellow employee see this guy even looking at the case.

We're all used to some breakage by our friends, accidents happen right? But what do you do if some disgusting swamp donkey, forced to to share your space part time, turns your models into a petri dish.

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 FearPeteySodes wrote:

He was the type of guy that would stop was he was doing, register, conversation, or dealing with a customer, to run to the window if he thought an attractive woman was walking by. We were maybe 18ish at the time and he was 30 or so but without fail he would just start in on "what he would like to do..."


Man, the guy who was the final straw at a club I wasn't enjoying. Only he was more in his fifties or sixties.

But one day I came in to see the newly painted, super converted unit of rat ogres I made had sprouted a truly frightening amount of mold all over them.

After investigation, it turned out this guy was taking my stuff out to look at quite a bit and while he was eating mall food, messily as he was prone to do... what do you do if some disgusting swamp donkey, forced to to share your space part time, turns your models into a petri dish.


I share the Captain's reaction.

I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

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