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I was once a huge fan of star wars, then I opened up a GW rulebook and found .... spehs mehreens...

To this day, I can not help but look at Star Wars as something not just different than Warhammer, but inferior. It's a complex I guess. However, recently after seeing the poster of episode 7, and hearing a bit about it, all I can say is that the divide in my mind has widened. SW ep7 sounds less about fiction and more about SJW maneuvering tossed up with nostalgia.

I'm sure there are some people on here that would be glad to point out how wrong I am in multiple ways, but hey, just look at the fundamental thing I'm pointing to: you can't deny SW has evolved into equal race/gender casting roles because it is literally in your face.

I really do like fiction. I like fantasy. I also like sci fi. Star wars Ep7 looks to be less of any of these, and more about the Disney experience. It so happens that Disney likes to capitalize on the equality ticket - it's been this way for almost as long as I can remember. Heck, movies in general anymore are like this more and more. It's become a matter of experience over immersion. As a tangent, consider how cinema has changed on the most basic level over the years, you'll now see quite a lack of camera panning or, that even the camera frames during dialogues hardly last longer than 5-10 seconds, before it flips back to (politically correct) pretty face B. And that's a situation for real acting?

So aside from the whole cinema lacking over the years, going back to ep7: is racial preference that bad, in a movie? If you were to choose all white dudes, for a series that's been mostly cast that way, is it so racist to continue doing that? Or, so sexist for the devs to portray a patriarchal society that bars women in a military? If these weren't political issues today, I'd be less inclined to think these are political assertions being spun as normal in fiction. Instead, that they look exclusively like 'this is actually normal, and see, it works'.

Then there's that capitalist perspective - that catering to more demographs via token actors sells better. Just saying - as it seems to stink here with ep7.

So yea, this simply makes me want to go back to where things make sense in my mind - regards to fantasy/sci fi: bolters & chainswords & Power fists & Xenos Scum & Grim Dark Humor.

I will wait until it hits tape/amazon before I watch ep7 - most likely, or unless my wife makes me go.



The last movie that really felt like it had something special in it was the Lego Movie.

Seriously? Star Wars is now "SJW maneuvering" because the cast isn't all white men?

 Peregrine wrote:
Seriously? Star Wars is now "SJW maneuvering" because the cast isn't all white men?

I was going to say something here, but I think Perigrine beat me to it. I won't waste a lot of time in this thread, because I expect the OP is going to get dogpiled by people who aren't SJW, but individuals who understand you don't have to be a White man to be a hero.

Relapse wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Seriously? Star Wars is now "SJW maneuvering" because the cast isn't all white men?

I was going to say something here, but I think Perigrine beat me to it. I won't waste a lot of time in this thread, because I expect the OP is going to get dogpiled by people who aren't SJW, but individuals who understand you don't have to be a White man to be a hero.

Or people that know we already have a thread on the OT front page devoted to talking about Star Wars: TFA.

Excuse my ignorance but what is SJW

It seems like the sole purpose of this thread was to complain about... something about them pesky SJWs, despite the OP having not seen the move to have any idea if gender and race are prominent plot points in the movie (they're not, the two main characters just happen to be a black male and a woman, there aren't really any significant points made about SJW-y stuff). Race/sex-baiting trolling probably isn't in line with Dakka's rules and guidelines.

OP, to be clear, it's not racist or sexist to cast white guys in roles. It is racist and sexist to see that a woman/black male has a major role and think "they're letting women/black male do that now? That's crap!"


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yellowfever wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but what is SJW

Social justice warrior, for people who go way overboard on affirmative action, equal opportunity, and similar. Kind of like the stereotype of the man-hating femenist, updated to 2015.

Relapse wrote:
I expect the OP is going to get dogpiled by people who aren't SJW, but individuals who understand you don't have to be a White man to be a hero.

Well said, you bleeding heart SJB.

Anyway, for OP, if you absolutely must post this, you probably should post it here.

We already have a Star Wars thread here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/659790.page