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You don't need ANY mat for the game. Just as you don't need one for any table top war game where you measure movement/ranges in inches. You can use any existing terrain you have.

The mat is being included to give those new to miniatures gaming something other than their bare table to play on. It is not a board game and does not use squares/hexes/zones.

Ah, good point!

So table size can be more than 20" x 20".

Yep, I tend to use a table that is just shy of 3'x3' for skirmish gaming. I can set up my trailer park terrain set on it for this.

I can also set up my Stop-N-Rob, parking lot and streets for this as well.




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I'm not impressed by 'unarmed' character minis, especially ones posed as if they are about to be killed.

I know in the game they can 'be equipped' but who wants to use the unarmed character getting bitten figure as their little Mini Me in a game?

I like 2x2 for small games, that's the size I use for Blackwater Gulch demos. It's good for around 5 models per side. But 3x3 is much nicer for larger games.

This will give me some incentive to finish painting my secret weapon street tiles Only done 4 so far, long way to go ... :/

If they do add-ons a la carte, sign me up for a crate of loot markers. Otherwise, whatevers.

Folks whining about not getting mouse pad mats are not remembering the fact Mantic is going to charge extra shipping for add ons. Even if they do offer them as an add on, knowing they WILL be offered retail means you'll be able to pick them up at an online retailer. And likely get them cheaper and assuredly with cheaper shipping than you will get during the KS.

TWD is a favourite of the other half, so this should pique her interest. Am more than happy to wait for retail on this. Given the short lead time until delivery are we safe to assume that a lot of the minis/components are in/on the cusp of production already? Those slow boats from China take an age go arrive.

 CptJake wrote:
knowing they WILL be offered retail means you'll be able to pick them up at an online retailer. And likely get them cheaper and assuredly with cheaper shipping than you will get during the KS.

Much like the rest of the stuff in the KS...

good point.

But you won't be able to get that spiffy badge retail!

I want the loot crates.

Nothing else has truly grabbed me.

First time in a very long time that I didn't instantly jump on a Mantic campaign.

A shame.

Then again with some of the other offerings that Kickstarter will have this month, I guess I shouldn't complain to much.

So when it gets to $200k, that's when we start actually unlocking things instead of just random things they deliberately held back? Weird way of doing it tbh, they may as well of just set the initial funding goal at 200k, given that these supposedly unlocked figures were part of the initial offer. Guess it doesn't make much difference either way, just feels a bit cheeky

 Alpharius wrote:
Ah, good point!

So table size can be more than 20" x 20".

and I just took a chainsaw to the kitchen table to "customize" it for when this arrives. Better get the wood glue out before the wife gets home . Maybe a tablecloth too.


I have an EB, but will probably drop it towards the end, just not enough here to justify it over the hundred other wants. Loot counters look decent enough, but could be scratch built.

Unless they seriously crank up the value, Ill be waiting for retail, I think... well see how it goes.

The $200k unlocks make the pledge level up to where I would have considered it at being reasonable value for $125. I am sure a lot of other people felt the same and haven't backed due to perceived poor value.

Even with that in mind I am surprised how slow this campaign is moving considering the big licence involved.

I've set this one as a reminder. Probably not going to go for it though.

I've yet to play a game of Dreadball Extreme that isn't a demo game.
Not used any of my Dreadball Season 4-6 teams either.
Haven't gotten round to playing Dungeon Saga yet either, for that matter.

And... I've gotten kinda fed up of watching Walking Dead.

Aeneades wrote:
Even with that in mind I am surprised how slow this campaign is moving considering the big licence involved.

License can only sell so much on it's own. Personally I'm of the opinion that the TV license has a larger audience than the comic audience which contributes to the slowness. Add in that zombie games are about a dime a dozen right now and over saturated in the miniatures market. Then add that these are miniatures, its a miniatures game, not really a board game. All those factors are going to limit it and growth even being a big license.

I like the idea of using this as a base for other stuff, using the rules to set having your own gangs and survivors taking each other on. And love the idea of an AI controlled zombie, even while you're trying to take out the other team (which is kind of true to the core comic/show concept of people being more of a threat to each other than the zombies).

Not mega value at the moment but we know being Mantic this will change, sure by the end it will be a good deal for what really is the going cost of a decent, component-rich boardgame these days.

When will the next season of TWD start, will it be a crossover with this?

The Walking Dead TV show is a separate licence so that won't be any crossover with the show (the show is back for second half of current season in just under 2 weeks so they could buy a tv advert to show during show but think very unlikely due to massive cost involved).

Aeneades wrote:
Even with that in mind I am surprised how slow this campaign is moving considering the big licence involved.

If you do a search on all the TWD merchandise that's already available, you could easily argue that it's a flooded market. I mean, there's a plastic cup of Daryl with a straw in the shape of a crossbow sticking out of his, not to mention the hydrocephalic computer sitters: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=walking+dead+merchandise&sprefix=walking+dead%2Caps%2C343

Myself, I find it irritating that they're going to spend 10K on a tertiary character that's long dead.

I think it's just cheaper to buy the Todd McFarlane action figures. They don't even need painting!

Got my $1 pledge in for popcorn. Nothing catches my eye despite having 144 issues of the comic.

Well, I didn't expect great value off the top, but I did expect a lot more than this. You know, I expected at least $115 of value. And yeah. "Limited Edition Dice Bag" and "first player marker" don't quite cut it.

That's without getting into wave shipping (what happened to one, and one only pledge level - no addons!?) Ah well, I'll just popcorn this one, but without the $1 fee to spam my inbox. I'm sure all of the relevant/amusing stuff will be in this thread, after all...

@Azazelx, you mean like the guy complaining about Zombicide being 6+ months late (I think he forgot to fill out the pledge manager ) and he trusts Mantics customer service .

Yeah I think this will either be a skip or wait for retail for me. Unless something major changes.

Dito

Retail wait for me, if they eventually do a £1 pledge I might grab that encase I change my mind but not going in on this one this month.

It'll be interesting for sure. I had a feeling that this one would be less for "us" as established and jaded gamers and more of a (hopeful on Mantic's part) entry point for new blood to gaming via Mantic's products.

 Azazelx wrote:
Well, I didn't expect great value off the top, but I did expect a lot more than this.

Yep. Pretty much the same as Dungeon Saga. In the end, DS turned out to be a good value -- sorta. Maybe. Eh.

Gee. Who's looking forward to painting Scavenger 1 and Scavenger 4? I'm *really* hoping Scavenger 2 makes it into the campaign. Scavenger 3 doesn't do it for me but I hear he's really popular among new gamers.
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Derek_(Comic_Series)

(Oh, and Reggie looks to be the UNNAMED escaped prisoner on page 1, issue 1 of the comic series. He has exactly ONE close-up panel and ONE word balloon in the book: "I ain't goin' back! I'll die first!" You remember him, right?)

I haven't seen it mentioned, maybe I missed it .. It says the minis are gray plastic... is that pvc? or HIPS? or ABS? or some other cocktail?

whatever dungeon saga was according to mantic, some sort of pvc blend I think

 Azazelx wrote:

Gee. Who's looking forward to painting Scavenger 1 and Scavenger 4? I'm *really* hoping Scavenger 2 makes it into the campaign. Scavenger 3 doesn't do it for me but I hear he's really popular among new gamers.

I was a random Savior in issue 107 so if they ever get that desperate for characters I might get a chance to appear in miniature form. Walking Dead wikia hasn't been kind enough to designate me a number though.


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Details of the next stretch goal are up now. The graphic says the $225k stretch goal is an Amy and Andrea double pack.

The text at the top of the Kickstarter page actually advertises the $225k goal as Andrea, Amy, Carol and Sophia which I suspect is a mistype with Carol and Sophia intended as the $250k stretch.

Edit: both the graphic and the text have since been removed. Guess someone jumped the gun. Hopefully due to the negative feedback regarding value they have decided to bundle all 4 miniatures into one goal like the text implied.

 Necros wrote:
I haven't seen it mentioned, maybe I missed it .. It says the minis are gray plastic... is that pvc? or HIPS? or ABS? or some other cocktail?

PVC


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I'm sure at least partially due to the angle, but dang, Michone has legs almost as thick as her torso.