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2016/02/28 00:02:25
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
Katana tip looks like the tip of a wooden sword. While Katanas are more of a cutting weapon than a thrusting one they do not have tips like lollypop sticks.
2016/02/28 00:20:28
Subject: Re:The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
adamsouza wrote: Tantos and Katanas are supposed to have an angled arrow point from the back view. It reinforces the tip for piercing armor while thrusting.
It's more noticable on the Michonne miniature, with the blade being thicker.
Lots of modern replicas have a more gradual incline at the tip, but they are more decorative than functional.
I just learned more about Katanas than I've ever known before. The truth appears to be that they're all correct.
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2016/02/28 00:46:55
Subject: Re:The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Azazelx wrote: Are these named walkers alternative/"zombified" versions of real characters from the comics that have already been included?
Spoiler:
Julie died in a mutual suicide pact, then became reanimated. However, before she even stood up, she was shot again. Julie is the only character in the KS that has both her live and zombified forms. Both were in the comic.
Walker Duane doesn't have a non-zombiefied miniature yet. Duane is Morgan's son, and became zombified. Morgan couldn't kill him, and left him chained in the backyard. When Rick came to convince Morgan to join him, Morgan said he'd kill Duane, but let him go instead.
Walker Ronnie, of course, is based on Ronnie Renton, CEO of Mantic.
(fwiw, Michonne has two sculpts, and both are based on scenes from the comics. She dispatches her two "pets" (the zombies that are chained and accompany her) as part of the condition to join Rick, although they're important as part of her backstory.)
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GrimDork wrote: Two more characters on the same base Billy and Ben, I'm assuming these are the comic equivalent to the little girls Carol takes care of in the prison arc of the TV show.
Anyone looking for movie versions of the figures should check out Studio Miniatures. Lots of other tribute characters as well: Machete, Oddball, Rhadaghast, A-Team, Crockett and Tubbs (Miami Vice), Arnie as leather jacket Terminator, Snake Pliskin, Alice, Ash and more.
Just 24 hours to go on this one now. Stretch Goals have bumped the Prison expansion into a Worthwhile bundle now with 18 unique sculpts (19 if you can't Billy and Ben as separate sculpts but they are appearing on the same base) -
It's a long shot but I really hope they can get this sort of value into the Woodbury expansion before the end of the campaign as it's looking a bit empty at the moment -
New goals just confirmed -
$600,000 4 Alternate Character Cards and Kickstarter Exclusive Bag of Guns Supply Marker
Tha 600k goal is super underwhelming, the two optional expansions have been heavily loaded up at the expense of the 125 pledge. Dollar being what it is that's not worth £90+ shipping to then have to add on another 65-70 worth that ships wave 2 in January 2017 or later ( my money is on April 2017) and the game is dead by the time it turns up! Definitely out now.
2016/02/29 09:15:55
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Looks like the EB's are starting to drop. Not sure if I'll keep mine. Mainly in it for the "OMG I'M GONNA DIE" figures, which will work as panicked civilians in All Things Zombie, and the cars.
overtyrant wrote: Obviously the campaign has not finished yet, but this is doing a LOT better then I thought it would! I though $250k was being generous!
but certainly still a lot less than Mantic was expecting before launch.
the content looks better (in quantity) than previously, but still not great compared to similar KS, and the quality hasn't improved obviously.
Some of the sculpts are OK (or would be if they weren't supposed to be representing the comic's characters) but many are very bad, including some major characters, which is a real shame for a licensed game.
The chunky design choice makes no sense if they make the minis a little bigger than usual.
As a big fan a the comic I'm really annoyed to see Mantic ruinning it that much. I didn't had big expectations from them but didn't expect this to go that bad.
Obviusly with a zombie game the comparaison with zombicide can't be avoided, and the difference in content and quality are just silly.
Mantic couldn't match it obviously, but they shouldn't have been so far behind...
2016/02/29 15:19:59
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
overtyrant wrote: Obviously the campaign has not finished yet, but this is doing a LOT better then I thought it would! I though $250k was being generous!
but certainly still a lot less than Mantic was expecting before launch.
the content looks better (in quantity) than previously, but still not great compared to similar KS, and the quality hasn't improved obviously.
Some of the sculpts are OK (or would be if they weren't supposed to be representing the comic's characters) but many are very bad, including some major characters, which is a real shame for a licensed game.
The chunky design choice makes no sense if they make the minis a little bigger than usual.
As a big fan a the comic I'm really annoyed to see Mantic ruinning it that much. I didn't had big expectations from them but didn't expect this to go that bad.
Obviusly with a zombie game the comparaison with zombicide can't be avoided, and the difference in content and quality are just silly.
Mantic couldn't match it obviously, but they shouldn't have been so far behind...
Well stated , Have an Exalt. I keep forgeting the scale size of these figure will be larger than regular mantic figures as well. Maybe not enough to look completely bonkers, but big enough to notice.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
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2016/02/29 15:35:14
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
overtyrant wrote: Obviously the campaign has not finished yet, but this is doing a LOT better then I thought it would! I though $250k was being generous!
but certainly still a lot less than Mantic was expecting before launch.
the content looks better (in quantity) than previously, but still not great compared to similar KS, and the quality hasn't improved obviously.
Some of the sculpts are OK (or would be if they weren't supposed to be representing the comic's characters) but many are very bad, including some major characters, which is a real shame for a licensed game.
The chunky design choice makes no sense if they make the minis a little bigger than usual.
As a big fan a the comic I'm really annoyed to see Mantic ruinning it that much. I didn't had big expectations from them but didn't expect this to go that bad.
Obviusly with a zombie game the comparaison with zombicide can't be avoided, and the difference in content and quality are just silly.
Mantic couldn't match it obviously, but they shouldn't have been so far behind...
Well stated , Have an Exalt. I keep forgeting the scale size of these figure will be larger than regular mantic figures as well. Maybe not enough to look completely bonkers, but big enough to notice.
Wait, what? As far as I know, these have only ever been stated to be "28mm scale", which is the same scale as Mantic's other stuff. They are probably going to look chunkier than Mantic's usual style though, although I expect the difference to be less pronounced when the model isn't filling my computer monitor. Zombicide's scale is 35mm, for comparison - those tower over other models!
2016/02/29 15:36:15
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
overtyrant wrote: Obviously the campaign has not finished yet, but this is doing a LOT better then I thought it would! I though $250k was being generous!
but certainly still a lot less than Mantic was expecting before launch.
the content looks better (in quantity) than previously, but still not great compared to similar KS, and the quality hasn't improved obviously.
Some of the sculpts are OK (or would be if they weren't supposed to be representing the comic's characters) but many are very bad, including some major characters, which is a real shame for a licensed game.
The chunky design choice makes no sense if they make the minis a little bigger than usual.
As a big fan a the comic I'm really annoyed to see Mantic ruinning it that much. I didn't had big expectations from them but didn't expect this to go that bad.
Obviusly with a zombie game the comparaison with zombicide can't be avoided, and the difference in content and quality are just silly.
Mantic couldn't match it obviously, but they shouldn't have been so far behind...
Well stated , Have an Exalt. I keep forgeting the scale size of these figure will be larger than regular mantic figures as well. Maybe not enough to look completely bonkers, but big enough to notice.
Wait, what? As far as I know, these have only ever been stated to be "28mm scale", which is the same scale as Mantic's other stuff. They are probably going to look chunkier than Mantic's usual style though, although I expect the difference to be less pronounced when the model isn't filling my computer monitor. Zombicide's scale is 35mm, for comparison - those tower over other models!
From their FAQ at the bottom of the kickstarter page.
"The miniatures are 30mm scale, with the average adult character standing approximately 1.5” inches tall.
The miniatures are single-piece and no assembly is required. They are made from a highly detailed, durable plastic. The material is a type of PVC commonly used in games our games such as Dungeon Saga, as well as games by other manufacturers such as Wrath of Kings and more.
This plastic allows us to have a high level of detail whilst keeping the dynamic poses required for such a fast-paced game, and of course making them very affordable as you would expect from Mantic.
Note that this material is not the harder PVC commonly known as “restic”, and is not sprued “hard plastic” (polystyrene).
Your miniatures do not come painted – the miniatures shown in the photography are for promotional purposes only. Miniatures are supplied in grey plastic"
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2016/02/29 16:20:35
Subject: Re:The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Like a board game, you will set-up the mat, terrain and gaming components on a table or flat surface and, just like a board game, players take it in turns to move their pieces – in this case, a gang of anywhere from one to ten 28mm-scale miniatures depicting your favourite characters from The Walking Dead comics.
Concerns over the chunkiness might be warranted then! Although I still think that the models look much more similar to the renditions from the comics than the general consensus has it. The early art was a tad inconsistent anyway, to be honest.
Rick and Carl
Rick and Carl, 2 issues later
2016/02/29 17:11:00
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
From their FAQ at the bottom of the kickstarter page.
"The miniatures are 30mm scale, with the average adult character standing approximately 1.5” inches tall.
Those two numbers do not jive at all...
1.5" is 38mm. No way are the eyes going to be at 30mm. If 1.5" is true, then the figs are more like 35mm "scale" figs.
Assuming a 6' tall human, 1.5" is exactly 1/48th scale, so these figs will not be compatible with 28-30mm figs at all.
It also says "average" which means there will be even taller figs...
T
2016/02/29 18:08:03
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
From their FAQ at the bottom of the kickstarter page.
"The miniatures are 30mm scale, with the average adult character standing approximately 1.5” inches tall.
Those two numbers do not jive at all...
1.5" is 38mm. No way are the eyes going to be at 30mm. If 1.5" is true, then the figs are more like 35mm "scale" figs.
Assuming a 6' tall human, 1.5" is exactly 1/48th scale, so these figs will not be compatible with 28-30mm figs at all.
It also says "average" which means there will be even taller figs...
T
Maybe the height of the figure is 30mm scale, and then the base size added in . Either that or zombies only affected people under 6'5".....so I'm safe
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2016/02/29 19:08:24
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
I've seen the models in real life and they look pretty 'standard' sized - certainly not obviously larger than other stuff that is out there and pretty much on par with most other major zombie ranges. Proportions look decent in real life too - very close to the new WGF zombie survivor/biker sprues.
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2016/02/29 19:15:40
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
legoburner wrote: I've seen the models in real life and they look pretty 'standard' sized - certainly not obviously larger than other stuff that is out there and pretty much on par with most other major zombie ranges. Proportions look decent in real life too - very close to the new WGF zombie survivor/biker sprues.
Um... i've been painting WGF survivors all weekend, and those are certainly not the same proportions. WGF survivors are nearly true-scale, where the Walking Dead models clearly are going for an extremely heroic set of proportions.
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2016/02/29 19:20:13
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
legoburner wrote: I've seen the models in real life and they look pretty 'standard' sized - certainly not obviously larger than other stuff that is out there and pretty much on par with most other major zombie ranges. Proportions look decent in real life too - very close to the new WGF zombie survivor/biker sprues.
Um... i've been painting WGF survivors all weekend, and those are certainly not the same proportions. WGF survivors are nearly true-scale, where the Walking Dead models clearly are going for an extremely heroic set of proportions.
Limb size is different but height/head size is about the same in most cases (for the models I side by side compared as I had both in hand at the time)
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2016/02/29 19:21:13
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
CptJake wrote: None of my WGF survivors have tree trunk legs like that Exclusive Michonne figure.
Obviously the reason that she's still alive since she can just fi-fy-fo-fum and stomp zombies to jelly with her +3 gigantor legs of crushing .
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2016/02/29 19:29:15
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
TwilightSparkles wrote: Tha 600k goal is super underwhelming, the two optional expansions have been heavily loaded up at the expense of the 125 pledge
It sorta makes me want a $1 pledge just to buy the prison expansion and get the main box at retail.
Unless they changed it, they are not allowing $1 pledges (they will be automatically refunding $1 pledges):
All backers with no selected pledge level once the campaign closes will be refunded, in full, immediately on the campaign ending. Please select your preferred pledge when backing to ensure you get your rewards.
2016/02/29 19:34:44
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Eh... I kind of just want the neoprene mats, and terrain bits, as the game seems... simple, and I suspect no serious tournament community will emerge. This is not Star-Wars, which X-wing used to propel itself into success (then building on it with a terrific game, mind you).
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2016/02/29 19:41:08
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
CptJake wrote: None of my WGF survivors have tree trunk legs like that Exclusive Michonne figure.
yeah the renders look a lot worse than the actual models did (though the actual models were 3D prints rather than production prototypes). I did not see any in the flesh that I would not be pleased with if I got them as is. Production might change that though, and I didnt see Tyrese whose pose on the KS does nothing for me. The zombies all looked really good though, notably nicer than zombicide at least, with michonne's pets looking really good.
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2016/02/29 19:42:36
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Finally looked at this and like the look of the terrain... and there's no way to get it separately it seems. I've never seen the show and don't want the game.
Hope it makes it to retail I guess.
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2016/02/29 20:00:17
Subject: The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread
Eh... had to drop my pledge. By the time it comes out and for what it would cost me, I will just get whatever I need for All Things Zombie, elsewhere. I would've just used this game's content as proxies anyway, as the game itself looks naff.
Shame they didn't have a $1 pledge, as I would've grabbed the mats, and terrain expansions.
I'm just not convinced Mark Latham is actually a good designer. Say what you will about difficulties working with Alessio, or Jake, but they have firm grasps of fundamentals, and at least when motivated, can make deeply compelling stuff.