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Everybody complains about the Bolts. They are the official Whipping Boys and Girls for Infinity. Bolts didn't get Engineers. Bolts didn't get Haris. Dingoes ate my Bolts. ..... yadda yadda yadda.

I'll wait and see the painted Bagh-Mari. The helmet antenna I would like to see stay. Those back-fins, not so much.

... we were discussing about the helmet antennas.

 Killionaire wrote:
Bolt Antennae are great: They're moulded in as small portions of the backplates of the helmets. Dunno what anyone really would complain about there. They also break up the helmet shape.

You want to know why someone would complain about those?

Because of the fact that CB has done them in two sizes, male and female, and it's not unheard of to have them mispacked. And that's not taking into account that sometimes they might mispour and you end up with tiny amounts of them.

The heads should have been one solid piece with no antennae period.

It's not the traditional 'two ball-socket' PanO Ear Antennae that break often ,or god help you, the 'teeny pit with no connection' back antennae stuff like the old Croc Men or old Bagh Mari had...

Just because it's not as bad as something else doesn't mean it's good.


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And Onyx Contact Force 300 point Army Pack gets a trailer.

Does anyone know if this will be like the USAriadna starter with dice, buildings, etc?

Or just a way to buy a 300 point army in one shot?

 TalonZahn wrote:
Does anyone know if this will be like the USAriadna starter with dice, buildings, etc?

Or just a way to buy a 300 point army in one shot?

Well, the fact it's 300 points immediately makes it unlike the USARF box since that topped out at 151.
I've heard nothing about a scenery pack, and one wouldn't really make sense given the background unless it's a Paradiso pack of some sort (which wouldn't be EI).

I know a friend who will simply buy it just for the dice if they're included.
(here's hoping for a heliotrope colour scheme for them)

 Red Harvest wrote:
Dingoes ate my Bolts. ..... yadda yadda yadda.

You are genius. I'd love to read about this.

 Kanluwen wrote:

The heads should have been one solid piece with no antennae period.

That is just your opinion...

 The Infinite wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Does anyone know if this will be like the USAriadna starter with dice, buildings, etc?

Or just a way to buy a 300 point army in one shot?

Well, the fact it's 300 points immediately makes it unlike the USARF box since that topped out at 151.

Well yeah, but that's more because they cheaped out. They knew the point values wouldn't be anywhere near what was required for the scenarios(which was a kick in the nuts IMO), yet still printed them and shipped it off. They should have dumped out the Maverick and instead added a Grunt box.

The highest point value you can get to from the USARF box, played "as is" and WYSIWYG?
171 points.

You can't use the Maverick as anything else without proxying, same with the Devil Dog(the other profile doesn't have Heavy Pistol).

I've heard nothing about a scenery pack, and one wouldn't really make sense given the background unless it's a Paradiso pack of some sort (which wouldn't be EI).

I seem to recall a Morat terrain set floating around, but I can't remember who made it.


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 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

The heads should have been one solid piece with no antennae period.

That is just your opinion...

Considering their obsession with "streamlining" everything and removing the "fiddly excess bits"?

And considering the fact that Bagh-Mari, made using the same doll as the Bolt and Nisse, lost those antennae? I'm inclined to say they might agree.

I don't recall Nisse having the same antennas on their backs as Bagh Mari. Knights of Santiago have them. I'd expect they'll lose them eventually.

Ignore him, he thinks he knows how CB sculpts models.

Stephen Rao, a Bagh Mari, has a backpack and no fins. He has a field bag too-- probably full of hair care products. I would say that the new Bagh Mari will also have the backpacks, and no back fins.

Nisse have retained the helmet antennas. I see no reason for the Bagh Mari to lose them . They are rather iconic for Pan-O.

We'll see in 11 days or less.

Edit:wow, bad typing.

Yeah, the new Bagh Mari look to have the backpacks and hip bags in the render. It really makes them look like Bolts. Hopefully they will have the antennas and they were just left off of the render.

Um...somehow I missed Bagh renders...little help?

There you go.

Thanks, Kan!

 Red Harvest wrote:
Nisse have retained the helmet antennas. I see no reason for the Bagh Mari to lose them . They are rather iconic for Pan-O.

As did Akal. The only past MI that didn't the have antenna was Crusader Brethren. I do have my doubts about next generation Bagh Mari. The open visor is pushed very high (compared to the old school exclusive Fusilier model) and it would constrained the angle of the socket antenna, it might just not look interesting from top to down perspective with the gap and antenna's angle.

I think I also found a reason why Rao has such majestic hair. He's on a contract with one of the shampoo company from Europe. He's obliged by contract to look majestic every time a camera might catch him.

Onyx Contact Force box highlighted by CB.
Box looks like packaging for a graphics card.
http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=194

Yea, the only "extra" mentioned is a booklet.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Yea, the only "extra" mentioned is a booklet.

Well that, and saving something like $44 off MSRP(before factoring in discounts).
That's enough to let you pick up a Unidron Batroid box or almost enough for the Xeodrons.

Yea, it's definitely a great deal, not questioning that.

I would have loved to see some buildings, a map, or dice tossed in also.

I think the only thing I don't already have that is in this box are the drones.

Witht the money you save you can afford to buy some dice. These for example, http://www.gamesciencedice.com/Gamescience-Black--d20--Twenty-sided-die--Plain_p_87.html with red numbers (you have to paint/ink the numbers yourself. I use crayon. It works) Just be careful about trimming the little bit of sprue.

You'll be crtting like a boss with them.

Has anyone done the cost breakdown on the ONYX box?

How much additional savings is it getting it all in one go?

 Alpharius wrote:
Has anyone done the cost breakdown on the ONYX box?

How much additional savings is it getting it all in one go?

Kan did over on the official forums:

You're looking at around $145.02 USD for the MSRP of the individual components.

$118.97 at the discounted prices most places have on the individual components.

The box? $101.64 before discounters; $81 in that case.

Very nice - and thanks to you both for the info!

As always, I would check/Email Game Nerdz.

They are always cheaper and on boxed sets, MUCH cheaper.

The new Haqq TAG is like $51 there.

Thanks for the reminder - I think I'll give them a shot and order the Onyx box from them!

EDIT:

Just checked, and you can already buy all the minis in the ONYX box from Gamenerdz for $88, and since there's nothing special/extra in the ONYX box...I wonder how much cheaper it would be?

Well, like I said, all their boxed sets are a ton cheaper i.e. $5 to $7 less on average. Then throw in their discounts. It's usually worth buying more.

I've placed 2 orders from them, $500 and $800, (so you can imagine how much that is with their discounts) and they always ship free.

If they don't have it, they order it and send it as soon as they have it.

I honestly can't recommend them enough. Their service is top notch and their prices the best.

Bashi Bazouk preview on the Guerilla Miniature Games YouTube channel.



Nice enough. And with the new Holoprojector rules, rather useful.

So very pretty...but I looking at it I am wanting to put it with my Yuan Yuans rather than having it as a Parachuting Holo Bad-ass

 Red Harvest wrote:
Nice enough. And with the new Holoprojector rules, rather useful.

Not just holo projectors. AP rifle/2x breaker pistols, SMG/Chain colt. Amazing.