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Not sure if I can post this here, but anyways:

I want to write a crossover between Star Wars and 40K. The basic plot would be that the Imperium discovers a solar system inhabited by people who use psychic powers in more physical ways, as in force chokes, force pushes, force jumps, and who wield strange weapons known as 'lightsabers'. (Jedis, duh)
I was wondering, what would be the best way to write something like this? If the Jedis and accompanying force is from the Clone Wars, it wouldn't be too fun since there would be two faceless armies against eachother. If it's set around 5-0 BBY (before battle of Yavin) and the soldiers are rebels, they would be an organized army.
I'm thinking either the time period that Rebels is in (around 5 years before A New Hope) or 5 years before The Force Awakens. I would like the Jedi's to be like Kanan from Rebels, who after order 66 went into hiding and stopped following 'proper' Jedi rites. Sort of like a warrior monk, with more focus on warrior. The latter would allow me to have cool lightsabers. What's Dakka's opinion?

To get right to the heart of it, what is the goal and purpose of your story? Why is it you need to include a crossover like this?

 curran12 wrote:
To get right to the heart of it, what is the goal and purpose of your story? Why is it you need to include a crossover like this?

There's... well, not really a purpose. I want to write about something I like, and 40K and Star Wars are two of those things. I want to include a few scenes where Jedi's debate if it's worth it to fight for their people, knowing that they will eventually die, and for a Space Marine and Jedi to have aconversation about the Imperium, the Force and war.

I'd think it's worth noting that the SW galaxy is very large, not just one solar system. It'd be more of two very large civilizations having first contact and figuring out whether to assimilate, eradicate, or negotiate with.

 troa wrote:
I'd think it's worth noting that the SW galaxy is very large, not just one solar system. It'd be more of two very large civilizations having first contact and figuring out whether to assimilate, eradicate, or negotiate with.

I'd prefer if it's just a single solar system that was once a part of the Imperium of Man but lost contact, only to be discovered captured by the Galactic Empire. The people revolt and the planet is free, when a Space Marine Chapter is sent to retrieve something and fighting ensues.

See you do have the whole warp/Jedi power debate you will have to answer.

How des ceramite, power weapons, adamantium, bolter shells react to lightsabres. All tiny things you need to work out
And the fact both universes use very different propulsion for ships etc.

You have a wide gap to bridge.

We know from the Star Wars books light sabers are not great at stopping solid projectiles. A bolt round would keep it's momentum but would turn into a molten glob that might explode due to the heat interacting with the charge in the bolt

I've always been thinking of writing a massive fan-fic where the 30k Imperium (led by the Emperor/Primarchs) invades post-ROTJ Star Wars after our galaxy is destroyed. The weakness of the SW galaxy at this time vs. Imperium at its strongest makes it just about even imo.

It always ends up being too similar to the Yuuzhan Vong war though.

 Harriticus wrote:
I've always been thinking of writing a massive fan-fic where the 30k Imperium (led by the Emperor/Primarchs) invades post-ROTJ Star Wars after our galaxy is destroyed. The weakness of the SW galaxy at this time vs. Imperium at its strongest makes it just about even imo.

It always ends up being too similar to the Yuuzhan Vong war though.

How wuold that be even close to even? You might as well pitch Bruce Lee against Chuck Norris and cut off one of Chuck's hands before the fight starts; the result will be the same regardless.

... you do know that Chuck Norris trained under Bruce Lee, right?

 Matthew wrote:
Not sure if I can post this here, but anyways:

I want to write a crossover between Star Wars and 40K. The basic plot would be that the Imperium discovers a solar system inhabited by people who use psychic powers in more physical ways, as in force chokes, force pushes, force jumps, and who wield strange weapons known as 'lightsabers'. (Jedis, duh)
I was wondering, what would be the best way to write something like this? If the Jedis and accompanying force is from the Clone Wars, it wouldn't be too fun since there would be two faceless armies against eachother. If it's set around 5-0 BBY (before battle of Yavin) and the soldiers are rebels, they would be an organized army.
I'm thinking either the time period that Rebels is in (around 5 years before A New Hope) or 5 years before The Force Awakens. I would like the Jedi's to be like Kanan from Rebels, who after order 66 went into hiding and stopped following 'proper' Jedi rites. Sort of like a warrior monk, with more focus on warrior. The latter would allow me to have cool lightsabers. What's Dakka's opinion?

Sounds ineresting

You could do something along the lines of planet isolated by a warp storm for so long barriers between universes fray and tear, the jedi(s) and some loyal followers is/are fleeing the massacre and find this strange world which is somehow hidden. They establish a hidden base and the planet fades back into the 40k universe.

The descendants of that group manage to survive in the new universe and flourish to an extent – then an Imperial scout ship arrives to investigate, they find humans and so begin the process of bringing them into the Imperium:

Imperial Missionaries:
A Missionary is a disciple of the Imperial Creed and a priest of the Adeptus Ministorum. Missionaries spread the Imperial Cult and defend it from the core worlds to the far flung edges of the sector. Missionaries spread their belief in the divinity of the God-Emperor to the different worlds of the Imperium, as well as to recently rediscovered human-settled planets. Sometimes they are known for accompanying the Adeptus Sororitas into battle. These men and women serve as the front line of the Ministorum, guiding the followers of the God-Emperor in their day-to-day prayers and observances. There are many types of Missionary: from the young, fervent hopefuls who spread the word of the Imperial Creed with little guidance and support from the Adeptus Ministorum, to the ancient, wise and toughened members of the Missionarus Galaxia. These individuals are at the forefront of the Imperium's expansion, accompanying the crusading armies as they discover new worlds, contact lost civilisations and push back the frontiers of the Emperor's holy domain, The oldest Missionaries are instinctive survivors. They have fought in battles against heathen and godless savages, and thwarted the designs of Chaos and Genestealer cults. A Missionary must survive the rigours of many years of Warp travel and exploration across Death Worlds, desert planets, prehistoric Feral Worlds and the freezing permafrost of Ice Worlds.


http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Missionary

So an Imperial escort class warship, various Imperials as part fo the survey team, inlcuding some Adeptus Mechanicus, maybe a few Sororitas as escorts and various functionaries..........

Could be interesting ………I’d read it 

 Psienesis wrote:
... you do know that Chuck Norris trained under Bruce Lee, right?

I actually mixed that analogy up, Bruce Lee wins regardless of whether or not he's missing a hand.

 Matthew wrote:

 troa wrote:
I'd think it's worth noting that the SW galaxy is very large, not just one solar system. It'd be more of two very large civilizations having first contact and figuring out whether to assimilate, eradicate, or negotiate with.

I'd prefer if it's just a single solar system that was once a part of the Imperium of Man but lost contact, only to be discovered captured by the Galactic Empire. The people revolt and the planet is free, when a Space Marine Chapter is sent to retrieve something and fighting ensues.

Planet gets stomped on by the Guard et al, Inquisition turns up, all "jedi" get herded onto a Blackship and eaten by the Golden throne, then end?

 dusara217 wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
... you do know that Chuck Norris trained under Bruce Lee, right?

I actually mixed that analogy up, Bruce Lee wins regardless of whether or not he's missing a hand.

No, no, Chuck Norris Round kicks time and Bruce Lee is never born.


@OP, The space marines show up and kick everyone's ass regardless of Star Wars setting. A single Jedi defeats them and the entire Imperium over the course of three movies.

Lols at Kylo Ren as the one jedi to beat them all.

The other problem appears when you try to reconcile "The Force" with "The Warp". What is the Force? How does it work in a 40k setting? Why are Jedi not falling prey to Daemons? Is it as powerful as psychic ability? If so, why? If not, why?

How does a Jedi save himself from orbital bombardment? (Hint: They don't.)

A break-away or lost world is reconquered through the machinations of the Adeptus Terra. First, they get told "hey, you're a human world, that means you belong to the Imperium". If the world says no? The Imperial Guard rolls in and crushes them, followed then by the Administratum, the Ecclesiarchy and the Adeptus Arbites. Compliance is mandatory, resistance is futile.

The other thing to remember is that most Jedi are not Luke, Anakin or Kylo. The average Jedi is not a particularly-impressive warrior in a place where melee combat is common (which is not the case in SW, so a trained swordfighter is deadly). Their abilities with the Force aren't super-powerful (basic mind tricks, basic levitation, some mind-over-body effects, nothing major) and, compared to the genetic and bioengineering of a Space Marine? Inferior in every way. And, because they are human, they die like any other human.

The general consensus (one which I agree with) seems to be that there'd be too much to reconcile in terms of both universes. You could do a scenario where the inhabitants of the solar system/sub-sector/other are such that they have plenty of similarities to the Jedi and the SW universe, but there would be too many changes you'd have to make to bring one universe into the other.

My thoughts immediately go inter-galactic travel by which the two universes meet, but that is a mile-long stretch at best.

Plus I agree with Psienesis: the Jedi would be no match for the Astartes and what not. The only advantage I can think of that they'd bring is their FTL travel, but that depends highly on how you do the crossover.

Go for it! There's so much potential.

As for warp vs force, say it's the same but Jedi happened to be in the part of space where warp is very calm => they don't get attacked by daemons but at the same time, their abilities are not so devastating. Maybe an imperial psycher would not be able to pull his cool tricks under this conditions. All he'll be able to do is force-throw rocks.

Back in first/early second, the Sensei were able to channel "pure, untainted warp energy" that hadn't been polluted by human emotion and desire.

The net upshot was that they were never in danger of suffering Perils, but could only use the Warp to enhance themselves - faster reflexes (hmm), limited combat-precognition (used to deflect bullets), jump really high (hang on..) and make themselves more charismatic (wait a...)