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2016/02/08 14:09:13
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Man, in every formation, GW is forcing us to take blood claws. I wouldn't mind if they weren't so god damn awkward to bring.
They only get their second special weapon at 15 and there is only 2 transports in the codex that can transport all of them. One of them isn't even a dedicated transport, so that's out. The other is a stormwolf, where they will charge at T3, which makes them useless, and makes the valuable stormwolf an easier target.
So now, you either have to run them as a 5 man unit that camps objectives or a 15 man unit that foot-slogs it. I wonder if they were updated at all in the new combined codex.
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2016/02/08 14:49:06
Subject: Re:Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Oh man, those minis are so amazing. I do wish I could keep the hat on Ulrik, as his head looks really similar to one of the GH heads, but I love the pose, and the cloak. That old YMCA model was just the worst. The new IP is jawesome, that hammer is crazy! Those dudes on TWC are going to be the new nightmare.
Man, I really want to do a Oden conversion on Ulrik.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, any idea on how to run the taxed Blood Claws for the Greatpacks? I don't want to sink money on a transport... Maybe Plasmas and camp objectives?
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I'm really curious to see the Iron Priest sprue. I hope the left shoulder pad is not included in the arm and I am able to not use the one with the Ragnar great company symbol.
2016/02/08 16:42:03
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Farseer M wrote: I'm really curious to see the Iron Priest sprue. I hope the left shoulder pad is not included in the arm and I am able to not use the one with the Ragnar great company symbol.
If you read it, the description says it's blank. So you can put whichever Great Company marking you wish on it.
I assume that'll be another new Starter Set formation. Some of the others were pretty good, let's see what we get.
Automatically Appended Next Post: TWC + Infantry is $91, so even without pricing out the HQ you're already looking at a ~$6 savings. Considering the price of Character models, probably something like ~$25-30 cheaper for this starter set. Sick.
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2016/02/08 17:46:39
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
If it had something other than the "Space Marine Commander" model then I'd have bought the "Start collecting" set. I don't particularly want that model though, so the saving aren't all that awesome for me. I wonder how much they go for on ebay.
It surprises me they haven't released a "generic Wolf Lord/Battle Leader" model yet. The plastic Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on looks... well... like a Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on
I guess if they release Krom again, that'll be come the "generic Wolf Lord" model.
2016/02/08 17:47:47
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: If it had something other than the "Space Marine Commander" model then I'd have bought the "Start collecting" set. I don't particularly want that model though, so the saving aren't all that awesome for me. I wonder how much they go for on ebay.
It surprises me they haven't released a "generic Wolf Lord/Battle Leader" model yet. The plastic Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on looks... well... like a Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on
I guess if they release Krom again, that'll be come the "generic Wolf Lord" model.
Krom goes up for preorder next week apparently.
2016/02/08 17:49:41
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: If it had something other than the "Space Marine Commander" model then I'd have bought the "Start collecting" set. I don't particularly want that model though, so the saving aren't all that awesome for me. I wonder how much they go for on ebay.
It surprises me they haven't released a "generic Wolf Lord/Battle Leader" model yet. The plastic Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on looks... well... like a Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on
I guess if they release Krom again, that'll be come the "generic Wolf Lord" model.
Krom goes up for preorder next week apparently.
That seems to be the rumour. I would have preferred they stuck Krom in the set instead of generic non-Wolf Space Marine Commander. It'd go against the trend of not having special characters in starter sets, but it would have been much more appealing.
2016/02/08 17:50:49
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: If it had something other than the "Space Marine Commander" model then I'd have bought the "Start collecting" set. I don't particularly want that model though, so the saving aren't all that awesome for me. I wonder how much they go for on ebay.
It surprises me they haven't released a "generic Wolf Lord/Battle Leader" model yet. The plastic Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on looks... well... like a Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on
I guess if they release Krom again, that'll be come the "generic Wolf Lord" model.
Krom goes up for preorder next week apparently.
2016/02/08 17:57:39
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: If it had something other than the "Space Marine Commander" model then I'd have bought the "Start collecting" set. I don't particularly want that model though, so the saving aren't all that awesome for me. I wonder how much they go for on ebay.
It surprises me they haven't released a "generic Wolf Lord/Battle Leader" model yet. The plastic Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on looks... well... like a Space Marine Commander with Wolfy bits thrown on
I guess if they release Krom again, that'll be come the "generic Wolf Lord" model.
Krom goes up for preorder next week apparently.
Spoiler:
The reason I said "apparently" is that I haven't seen what particular issue that is from.
2016/02/08 17:59:49
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
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2016/02/08 18:02:33
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Talys wrote: For Wolfy Part Commander, they should have used a SW head for the photo It would have looked less... wolfy part commander
That is a Space Wolf beakie he's got on. In fact I think the only "Space Marine Commander" parts they used are the torso and the sword, the rest of the model looks entirely from the regular SW sprue.
The problem with SW kit bashes (like the one in that photo and most of the ones I have seen) is it's really hard to make it look like anything OTHER than a kit bash. Pick a head.... the same head will be used on 5 other guys in your army. Pick a set of legs.... the same legs will be on 10 other models in your army.... pick a weapon, etc etc etc. It takes a LOT of work to make a Wolf Lord that doesn't look like he's just a kit bash, it's out of the league of most modellers.
The commander is still a nice model though. It's a good kit to have for bits and all that, if not for wolves, for another faction.
Which doesn't really help you when you want a "Space Wolf" force rather than a "Space Wolf + commander that is better suited to another faction"
I think the Space Marine commander model is showing his age. He has less bling than some of the regular infantry and the pose is largely uninspiring.
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2016/02/08 18:04:37
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
The space marine commander kit was a wonderful kit. It’s very dated at this point. A lot of the detail is on the soft side, the mold lines are getting worse, etc.
Part of me wishes they would re-vamp the kit. It’s contents are great, and much better then the mono-pose HQs they charge $30 for these days. But if they did re-cut the kit, I suspect they’d boost the price to that point. And frankly, if you wanted to make a commander on foot, you should just grab a sternguard box and make 5 for twice the price.
Or just grab a chapter upgrade sprue and toss the bulk of it onto one guy.
Wulfen Painting tutorial is up for those of you that are interested. I've created a thread in the P&M tutorial section as well for convenience. From the video, I can appreciate why they put 40mm bases on these. They're almost as big as Gal Vorbak
Requizen wrote: So does Iron Priests becoming HQs kill off Wolfy Superfriends?
Where'd you see they moved to HQ?
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2016/02/08 20:25:57
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Nevelon wrote: The space marine commander kit was a wonderful kit. It’s very dated at this point. A lot of the detail is on the soft side, the mold lines are getting worse, etc.
Part of me wishes they would re-vamp the kit. It’s contents are great, and much better then the mono-pose HQs they charge $30 for these days. But if they did re-cut the kit, I suspect they’d boost the price to that point. And frankly, if you wanted to make a commander on foot, you should just grab a sternguard box and make 5 for twice the price.
Or just grab a chapter upgrade sprue and toss the bulk of it onto one guy.
Yeah, I agree. The only thing unique about him is the cape (with backpack), which isn't an issue for space wolves, but is hard to find in a lot of other factions.
I would rather they abandon the kit, and retool it as a part of a new, awesome command squad box. I'd pay more for a good, new 5-model command squad that replaced the old one (which is almost useless at this point.... The most valuable piece is the nartheculum, lol)