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More and more the Horus Heresy is making it look like the first grey knights will end up being loyalists from the traitor chapters.

Isn't it pretty much confirmed that the first batch of grey knights where:

I remmember looking into some youtube lore videos but mostly find them unreliable. I'd suggest reading lexicanum or even 1d4chan instead.

To say that grey Knights aren't space is to say that the deathwatch isn't either. What truly makes the grey Knights stand out are three things. The fact that they do not have a primarch, the fact that they are all psykers and the fact that they are solely foccused on combating demonic threats. I've always thought of them as a chamber militant of the ordo malleus but apparently that's wrong.

Nerak wrote:
Isn't it pretty much confirmed that the first batch of grey knights where:

Spoiler:

Death Guard with Garro in the lead?

I remmember looking into some youtube lore videos but mostly find them unreliable. I'd suggest reading lexicanum or even 1d4chan instead.

To say that grey Knights aren't space is to say that the deathwatch isn't either. What truly makes the grey Knights stand out are three things. The fact that they do not have a primarch, the fact that they are all psykers and the fact that they are solely foccused on combating demonic threats. I've always thought of them as a chamber militant of the ordo malleus but apparently that's wrong.

Da fuq? the Codex Inquisition says the Grey Knights are the chamber militant of the Ordo Malleus, just like AS are for Hereticus, and Deathwatch are for Xenos.

The Chamber Militants have been back-tracked in the last couple editions, now it's more along the lines of "works closely with" in regards to the Inquisition, regardless of which Ordo it's in reference to or which former Chamber Militant is involved.

[pedant] The plural is Chambers Militant [/pedant] "Chamber" is the noun, "Militant" is an adjective, placed after the noun for a classical sound (Latin and the Romance languages place the adjectives after the nouns).

They are just a different colour of space marine. I mean it is right in the name...

 Kilkrazy wrote:
They are Space Marines on steroids.

Psychic Steroids!

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
[pedant] The plural is Chambers Militant [/pedant] "Chamber" is the noun, "Militant" is an adjective, placed after the noun for a classical sound (Latin and the Romance languages place the adjectives after the nouns).

*cough*

dusara217 wrote:
Da fuq? the Codex Inquisition says the Grey Knights are the chamber militant of the Ordo Malleus, just like AS are for Hereticus, and Deathwatch are for Xenos.

Psienesis wrote:The Chamber Militants have been back-tracked in the last couple editions, now it's more along the lines of "works closely with" in regards to the Inquisition, regardless of which Ordo it's in reference to or which former Chamber Militant is involved.

Technically, the term Chamber Militant is only used for the Grey Knights. It was used in one Sisters codex, which has since been overwritten by several more recent sources that just list them as closely allied - the same has not been done for the GK.

From what I've gathered from all the fluff I have ever read about grey knights is that physically they are they are space marines, what sets them apart is that they are all psychics of notable power. Not even preheresy Thousand Sons were all psykers but that a good number were made them ridiculously powerful as a force, from generating telekine domes for protection, to using telepathy for jammer free comms, or even precognition to avoid ambushes and save lives, you see how tacking psychic powers on a spacemarine gives them a significant boost in power.

Now take into account that they are supposedly incorruptible and the major drawback of being a psyker is not a problem anymore, in fact they're gear and training is designed to take down the single biggest threats to psykers (except blanks, just most of them are normal humans so a single MARINEPUNCH can finish them off). So are they space marines? Yes. Are they a spet above your normal marine though? I'd definitely say yes.