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 Kilkrazy wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
"They did suck in 5th edition"

This is false. Eldrad + fortune + scatterwalkers + ruins = many, many unhappy lists.

Was it 4th or 5th edition that had the almost unhittable Eldar Skimmers with holofield projectors?

4th.

If you want to be more accurate, they were also doing very poorly for over half of 6th. Its just that they stomped *so very hard* for the smaller portion of 6th that the larger portion gets forgotten.

Bharring wrote:
If you want to be more accurate, they were also doing very poorly for over half of 6th. Its just that they stomped *so very hard* for the smaller portion of 6th that the larger portion gets forgotten.

Yes, that's the way that usually works. But the real fallacy is that they were bad in 5th. They weren't. All the new hotness that came out in 5th still fell before the scatterlaser, just as everything falls now. You could realistically damage out a vehicle in 5th without exploding it with as many shots as it had. Also, lots of players rightly paid for power weapons in 5th. Very juicy targets for the Eldar. Basically, causing 50+ wounds a turn never goes out of style, and the Eldar were the original offenders.

We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy.... I know i know, you guys deserve D weapons on every units and a 2+ invu re-rollable. Of course, all ur units should have 10 wounds and be invisible all the time. Moreover, they should give you WS 9 and BS 9 on every single unit.

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun against you.

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

alex0911 wrote:


Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy.

whuuuuuuut?

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

Well lets see here. NONE of those have gotten their codex updated with the new meta of formations. That means that they still will and most likely WILL get a huge boost.

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

 Orock wrote:

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

I own and play every army except Chaos Daemons, Tyranids and Mechanicus. I own every other army and switch off constantly.

So I agree. Its ridiculous to say the "Tau" are whining. It's the ruling that sucked. Its the sore losers that suck. it's not the "Tau". And those "Tau" were playing the Tau for the three Editions they WEREN'T "good" also.

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

Well lets see here. NONE of those have gotten their codex updated with the new meta of formations. That means that they still will and most likely WILL get a huge boost.

Ofc they will, at the 8th edition just like the rest of the armies.

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

The army is still awsome, they nerfed the OP stuff that everyone hated, deal with it

You know what is funny ? People voted it so there might be a reason why some rules were apply ? Maybe some stuff were too good and tabling people every games isnt that great ?

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

If the ITC decides you cant take Warp Talons at all in normal Chaos Marine armie, is the Chaos Codex fine?

sure. Does that make it okay? newp.

 Jancoran wrote:

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

If the ITC decides you cant take Warp Talons at all in normal Chaos Marine armie, is the Chaos Codex fine?

sure. Does that make it okay? newp.

I don't think those are the same things.

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

Why should we accept just being "fine"? How is that fair? If we are given very good things in our codex why should we not be able to use them? How about another army other than Eldar, Space marine, or Necrons finally start winning tournaments?

Edit: nevemind...

notredameguy10 wrote:

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

Why should we accept just being "fine"? How is that fair? If we are given very good things in our codex why should we not be able to use them? How about another army other than Eldar, Space marine, or Necrons finally start winning tournaments?

nerf them too then, taus are good the way they are, they won some locals tournements here. I mean itc nerfed them but theyr are still really good man, much better then most armies ! Orks and dark eldars didnt even make it to top 32 and did they cry ? Nah taus did with 6 players in top 32. Shhhh now

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

Why should we accept just being "fine"? How is that fair? If we are given very good things in our codex why should we not be able to use them? How about another army other than Eldar, Space marine, or Necrons finally start winning tournaments?

nerf them too then, taus are good the way they are, they won some locals tournements here. I mean itc nerfed them but theyr are still really good man, much better then most armies ! Orks and dark eldars didnt even make it to top 32 and did they cry ? Nah taus did with 6 players in top 32. Shhhh now

Pretty sure it was 2 (maybe 3) it the top 32. And again, its because Orks / Dark Eldar have not gotten their new codex yet. This is the equivalent of your Orks getting a new codex and ITC nerfing multiple formations right off the bat. Wouldn't you be mad as well?

There's nothing itc can do to BA that GW hasn't already done. So no, I wouldn't care.

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

Why should we accept just being "fine"? How is that fair? If we are given very good things in our codex why should we not be able to use them? How about another army other than Eldar, Space marine, or Necrons finally start winning tournaments?

nerf them too then, taus are good the way they are, they won some locals tournements here. I mean itc nerfed them but theyr are still really good man, much better then most armies ! Orks and dark eldars didnt even make it to top 32 and did they cry ? Nah taus did with 6 players in top 32. Shhhh now

Pretty sure it was 2 (maybe 3) it the top 32. And again, its because Orks / Dark Eldar have not gotten their new codex yet. This is the equivalent of your Orks getting a new codex and ITC nerfing multiple formations right off the bat. Wouldn't you be mad as well?

dude you had 6 in top 32, which is the highest amount with eldars and still you are unhappy. I would not care, orks are so bad they can t get any worst haha im done with you now

Martel732 wrote:
There's nothing itc can do to BA that GW hasn't already done. So no, I wouldn't care.

lol so you are telling me, after how much I have heard you complain on here that BA are terrible right now, that when their new codex comes out and they finally have new formations / units that would mean you may actually win some tournaments now and ITC immediately nerf them, you wouldn't be mad?


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alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

 Orock wrote:

alex0911 wrote:

notredameguy10 wrote:

alex0911 wrote:
We all hate taus, they are whinnig all the time.... CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZ

I mean your codex is awsome and still you are unhappy....

I hope GW gives you a terrible codex in the next edition.

Hopefully as bad as orks so we can have some fun.

lol and you, sir, are exactly what the Tau players are complaining about. People wanting Tau to be bad just because they hate tau.

Idc about taus haha I just hate the fact that you guys are never happy. Maybe you could think about chaos space marines, dark eldars or orks and ask yourself : Are taus that bad ?

wow 200 posts on a troll account. Hey, so if someone plays tau and 3 other armies, are they still "those dirty tau" when they rightly bring up nerf complaints. My main army is and always will be orks, and I think tau got screwed. This us or them mentality dosent work in tabletop, people change armies like they change the paint on their walls. That guy you compained about for playing tau might take up sisters of battle one day. You gonna write his name down in your journal of irrational hate and look it up every time he posts about sisters getting no support too?

LOL Why so mad? Maybe some players are fine, im just tired of every single whiners which doesnt understand that taus are fine the way they are. Be honest, some armies are terrible compared to taus. However, people deal with it and we wait for the next codex instead of crying ... Thanks about the idea of a journal.

You are missing the point, again. The army WAS fine the way it was, and ITC changed a bunch of things, many without a vote or discussion just because they felt like it

Is the army still fine the with the nerfs?

Why should we accept just being "fine"? How is that fair? If we are given very good things in our codex why should we not be able to use them? How about another army other than Eldar, Space marine, or Necrons finally start winning tournaments?

nerf them too then, taus are good the way they are, they won some locals tournements here. I mean itc nerfed them but theyr are still really good man, much better then most armies ! Orks and dark eldars didnt even make it to top 32 and did they cry ? Nah taus did with 6 players in top 32. Shhhh now

Pretty sure it was 2 (maybe 3) it the top 32. And again, its because Orks / Dark Eldar have not gotten their new codex yet. This is the equivalent of your Orks getting a new codex and ITC nerfing multiple formations right off the bat. Wouldn't you be mad as well?

dude you had 6 in top 32, which is the highest amount with eldars and still you are unhappy. I would not care, orks are so bad they can t get any worst haha im done with you now

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/679198.page

Sorry take another look

BA aren't going to get those things because trying to do assault with meqs in 7th is never going to work. And that's BA. We have no MCs and likely never will so we are boned.

The problem with BA is gw gave them nothing new unlike Tau. They just got back things that had been taken away from them.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
The problem with BA is gw gave them nothing new unlike Tau. They just got back things that had been taken away from them.

That and their entire concept fails because meqs are now target dummies with the life expectancy of a guardsman. But please thread tell me how the codex with the stormsurge is getting so shafted.

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Martel732 wrote:

 Dozer Blades wrote:
The problem with BA is gw gave them nothing new unlike Tau. They just got back things that had been taken away from them.

That and their entire concept fails because meqs are now target dummies with the life expectancy of a guardsman. But please thread tell me how the codex with the stormsurge is getting so shafted.

SS is good. But it is also 435 points and dies very quickly compared to other GMC since it is T6/3+

notredameguy10 wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Dozer Blades wrote:
The problem with BA is gw gave them nothing new unlike Tau. They just got back things that had been taken away from them.

That and their entire concept fails because meqs are now target dummies with the life expectancy of a guardsman. But please thread tell me how the codex with the stormsurge is getting so shafted.

SS is good. But it is also 435 points and dies very quickly compared to other GMC since it is T6/3+

If by quickly, you mean never, I agree. Gmcs are only thing more unfair than mcs.