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Warhams-77 wrote:
Just pull the new rules from the web and print them. I won't buy W!Ghaz for a second time for sure. Hope it will have an Ork Decurion while they are at it.

It's not just new formations but all the formations from the Sanctus reach campaign last year as well. Considering I never picked up that set and only have a digital waaagh ghaz. The convience of having all ork formations in one book is extremely helpful instead of looking for a pirated copy of each of the rules somewhere. However Orks need more then a decorian and a few formations to get competitive. So I don't have a ton of hope on this update.

Yes! I knew it! Hopefully they do some tweaks to the codex. 2 TL weapons on the Kopta, 4 wounds for warbosses (since they get them in the new Battle for Vedros) and super-heavy orkanauts would be nice.
But releasing Grukk is also good. At last a plastic warboss

Looks like there is a new way to play 40k too?

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?30283-New-Orks-and-Tau

Incoming Gamgee "I told you so" comment.

But seriously, nice. Grukk is a great model and updating Ork rules at all is very nice, it doesn't sound like they are getting a super detachment but we can always hope. The Tau player in me doesn't care about the Farsight Enclaves book as I already have Mont'ka, unless there are (doubtful) new rules in it.

Wait Deathwatch could be the week after?



GW droppin bomb after bomb this year. Drop em all.

Translation:

-"formation sheets"
- 3 of them are from Red Waagh/Hour of the Wolf
- also 3 new ones
- 9 missions (6 Echoes of War, 3 Altar of War missions - probably not new)
- 80 pages
- english only
- paperpack

 hordrak wrote:
Yes! I knew it! Hopefully they do some tweaks to the codex. 2 TL weapons on the Kopta, 4 wounds for warbosses (since they get them in the new Battle for Vedros) and super-heavy orkanauts would be nice.
But releasing Grukk is also good. At last a plastic warboss

Don't get your hopes too high for updated profiles - lots of people thought they'd update units in Khorne Daemonkin, but the same old Berserkers showed up.

I think an Orkcurion with a decent global bonus, a Boss-Mob command formation with some cool rules, and some other third formation is the best we can hope for.

On a related note, that starter set seems like a pretty good deal - $48 (boyz)+ $41 (nobz) + $28 (painboy) + $83 (dread) = $200, so you're saving $60 off retail, and that's if you don't get an additional ~20% off going through black cultist or something.

For anyone who reads those prices and has a minor heart attack - those are Australian prices. Do not adjust your television.

Thanks, Rob, interesting stuff

Experiment 626 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Black and silver is more of a Deathwatch thing. Iron Hands tend towards being more iron(no sarcasm intended).

I didn't even think of Deathwatch. Given that they are rereleasing two supplements the week before, I wouldn't put it past them to release another one though. But, I would be much happier seeing the rumored Deathwatch v. Genestealer Cult board game. Hopefully with rules to run an allied detachment of either of those.

I thought that Sad Panda had hinted at the DW/Genesneaker Cult board game being closer to May'ish time? Still, I'd rather have that than see Marines getting even more love at this point.

Likewise, after this release, I hope to god that we're done with Tau stuff until at least 2018. They've had enough stuff. Time to let the unloved factions get some attention for once!

Considering both the ork warboss and brood lord are on last chance to buy.
And he fact grukk is being released to replace the old ork warboss.
The brood lord replacement is probably not that far behind.

Good to see that the Ork starter box is made up of 4 kits instead of 3 (given how relatively cheap most Ork infantry kits are) but why do they keep putting the Deffdread in their box sets? I love the model but it just doesn't fit into 95% of Ork lists. Oh well at least boyz and nobz are super versatile kits and make a great base for kitbashing the more specialty Orks.

I hope we get a good Orkcurion but I'm honestly scared that it will be more along the lines of the Cadian detachment instead of the Tau Hunter Contingent

 Vankraken wrote:
Good to see that the Ork starter box is made up of 4 kits instead of 3 (given how relatively cheap most Ork infantry kits are) but why do they keep putting the Deffdread in their box sets? I love the model but it just doesn't fit into 95% of Ork lists. Oh well at least boyz and nobz are super versatile kits and make a great base for kitbashing the more specialty Orks.

I hope we get a good Orkcurion but I'm honestly scared that it will be more along the lines of the Cadian detachment instead of the Tau Hunter Contingent

they keep putting them in there for the same reason GW puts Dreadnoughts in SM boxed sets. They can't get them to sell otherwise (turns out awful rules DO impact sales!).

 Vankraken wrote:
Good to see that the Ork starter box is made up of 4 kits instead of 3 (given how relatively cheap most Ork infantry kits are) but why do they keep putting the Deffdread in their box sets? I love the model but it just doesn't fit into 95% of Ork lists. Oh well at least boyz and nobz are super versatile kits and make a great base for kitbashing the more specialty Orks.

I hope we get a good Orkcurion but I'm honestly scared that it will be more along the lines of the Cadian detachment instead of the Tau Hunter Contingent

I reckon if we do get an Orkcurion (and it's still a big 'if' at this stage), the Green Tide will be one of the Core Formation options. Hopefully they'll also give us a less model-intensive option, but I don't see the Green Tide fitting anywhere else. It's certainly not auxiliary

I really, really hope we do get an Orkcurion. It'd be frankly bizarre if we don't; literally every army that's received an update recently has gotten their own, so if they don't give one to Orks it'd be pretty damning evidence that no one at HQ cares about them at all.

 Kesher wrote:

Spoiler:

Looks like there is a new way to play 40k too?

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?30283-New-Orks-and-Tau

Great, thanks. I do enjoy Maelstrom so I'll be picking up two packs of these for some further variation.

This works out great for me - i don't have the waaaugh ghazghkull supplement at all, so getting it now nets me all the tasty treats in one purchase. I hope too that there's a decurion style formation but as stated above it'll probably make the green tide the core. Just as in the one that the astra militarum got that requires 180 models bare minimum to play with. Hopes are middling at this point, but it's a timely release since street date will be 2/27 and my birthday is 2/28!

"That painboy, finally"

Warhams-77 wrote:
Translation:

-"formation sheets"
- 3 of them are from Red Waagh/Hour of the Wolf
- also 3 new ones
- 9 missions (6 Echoes of War, 3 Altar of War missions - probably not new)
- 80 pages
- english only
- Hardcover

Hopefully all the ork formations from Sanctus reach and hour of the wolf are included since there are at least 9 of them and an 10th holiday one and freebooter King datasheet. However the really competitive one was mogroks boss boyz.

Oh, so the start collecting boxes typically have formations with them that use the models - So i wonder what rules the boyz, dread, nobz, and painboy all together will have? ^.^

 Dr. Delorean wrote:

 hordrak wrote:
Yes! I knew it! Hopefully they do some tweaks to the codex. 2 TL weapons on the Kopta, 4 wounds for warbosses (since they get them in the new Battle for Vedros) and super-heavy orkanauts would be nice.
But releasing Grukk is also good. At last a plastic warboss

Don't get your hopes too high for updated profiles - lots of people thought they'd update units in Khorne Daemonkin, but the same old Berserkers showed up.

I think an Orkcurion with a decent global bonus, a Boss-Mob command formation with some cool rules, and some other third formation is the best we can hope for.

On a related note, that starter set seems like a pretty good deal - $48 (boyz)+ $41 (nobz) + $28 (painboy) + $83 (dread) = $200, so you're saving $60 off retail, and that's if you don't get an additional ~20% off going through black cultist or something.

For anyone who reads those prices and has a minor heart attack - those are Australian prices. Do not adjust your television.

I wouldn't hope for an orcurion any time soon. I would love tp be wrong, but it seems doubtfull. What would be the core formation, a Greentide?

Good point, Gungo, not all made it into the new book.

These are the Sanctus Reach I + III formations (excluding Stormclaw and WD content)

Gorkanaut Krushin Krew
Mogroks Bossboyz
Grukks Goff Killmob
Skyboss Wingnutz Air Armada
Kaptin Badrukks Flash Gitz

Warhams-77 wrote:
Good point, Gungo, not all made it into the new book.

These are the Sanctus Reach I + III formations (excluding Stormclaw and WD content)

Gorkanaut Krushin Krew
Mogroks Bossboyz
Grukks Goff Killmob
Skyboss Wingnutz Air Armada
Kaptin Badrukks Flash Gitz

KBFG from hour of the wolf, yes? That one is actually pretty good. Heavy investment (20 gitz and baddrukk) but giving them all master-crafted for free makes them superb at dakka.

We dont know which But WD says three of those

Warhams-77 wrote:
We dont know which But WD says three of those

Well considering the two pictures of formations provided in the white dwarf are for gorkanaut crushing crew and grukk Goff killmob I think it's safe to say those two are in.

Edit: actually while looking at the pictures on the first page grukk Goff killmob is renamed into Goff killmob.
maybe they updated those formations as well?


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Warhams-77 wrote:
Good point, Gungo, not all made it into the new book.

These are the Sanctus Reach I + III formations (excluding Stormclaw and WD content)

Gorkanaut Krushin Krew
Mogroks Bossboyz
Grukks Goff Killmob
Skyboss Wingnutz Air Armada
Kaptin Badrukks Flash Gitz

Stormclaw had some decent formations too
Grukk facerippa
Skrak skull nobz
Rustgob runts
Krumpas killa kans
Grukks rippin crew
And then there was a Xmas free download with "badrukks flashgits" with furst mate grogg it's a unit entry and completely different from the above " kaptain badrukk flashgit" formation. Basically it's just a flashgit mob with a named nob with ld8 and a special snazzgun that's always ap1 but has gets hot.

I am not thinking that there are actually new formations at all, it is just the ones from Stormclaw and SR.

 BloodGrin wrote:
I am not thinking that there are actually new formations at all, it is just the ones from Stormclaw and SR.

It says 3 new ones and 3 old ones.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Wait Deathwatch could be the week after?



GW droppin bomb after bomb this year. Drop em all.

Looks like it

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?30283-New-Orks-and-Tau

Interesting, interesting...

Next week is most likely the Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult boardgame preorder, rumored by Hastings in Feb 2015.

I hope the WD Looted Tank profile is included in the book. But it probably wont be :(

Or Black Templars vs Necrons

Apparently atia confirmed deathwatch box will be up for preorder at the end of the month.