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Does anyone actually get to play against something that isn't Marines? I sure don't.

Necrons can go die in a fire. That is all.

I would love to play more people, but I can't get to the only place that plays all the way on the opposite side of town and I'm also outside of town very far away and also don't have a vehicle for regular transport. So it's out of the question. I can only get into town a few times a month for critical stuff.

So I just have the few players out here who play and now most of them won't play me. Constant Canadian snow also doesn't help things.

Eldar. Never really motivated to play against Eldar.

Noone around here plays Tau. I've been playing for years and literally never once faced a Tau army.

I'm the local Necron player. They've basically been shelved out of opponent frustration and my own boredom. I'll say, though, that GW delivered a fix for almost every single issue that was perceived as OP from the prior codex, so this seems a bit like a 'be careful what you wish for' situation.

Eldar or Tau, but then I play orks and our last codex was a brown floater and since it's release, my interest has waned a lot.

 Gamgee wrote:
I would love to play more people, but I can't get to the only place that plays all the way on the opposite side of town and I'm also outside of town very far away and also don't have a vehicle for regular transport. So it's out of the question. I can only get into town a few times a month for critical stuff.

So I just have the few players out here who play and now most of them won't play me. Constant Canadian snow also doesn't help things.

Have you ever thought of flying to the US for some tourneys? If you are on the East side, there is a lot going on in the New England area. If you are near Calgary, you can head down for adepticon. If you on the left coast ... well ... it's not as strong out there.

Easily eldar.

Not only is it massively overpowered, fighting against them is just a 3 hour ego-strokefest for the eldar opponent.

Plus, almost every single one of them have the "eldar is for experts ONLY" mentality, and think they're God's gift to tactical thinking.

Glad they're banned in the 2 clubs I go to.

 labmouse42 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I would love to play more people, but I can't get to the only place that plays all the way on the opposite side of town and I'm also outside of town very far away and also don't have a vehicle for regular transport. So it's out of the question. I can only get into town a few times a month for critical stuff.

So I just have the few players out here who play and now most of them won't play me. Constant Canadian snow also doesn't help things.

Have you ever thought of flying to the US for some tourneys? If you are on the East side, there is a lot going on in the New England area. If you are near Calgary, you can head down for adepticon. If you on the left coast ... well ... it's not as strong out there.

Long range (by my standards) travel isn't an option except for the biggest tournaments and only once a year because a lot of my physical disabilities make travel a pain in the ass or stomach I should say.

 Gamgee wrote:
Long range (by my standards) travel isn't an option except for the biggest tournaments and only once a year because a lot of my physical disabilities make travel a pain in the ass or stomach I should say.

Well that sucks man. My son has cerebral palsy, and I've learned disabilities can be a bitch in making life more challenging.

Hopefully you can get enough games in to enjoy it, and maybe one day make it to Nova, Adepticon or LVO.

I don't have anything that bad yet and I'm sorry to hear about your son. The one owner of our store here has something similar to it but thankfully it seems minor or fairly well controlled.

Someday I hope to make it there, but finding work is tough as well in this economy and with the distance into town, and racism, and my conditions its hard to find work. I'm lucky I have my grandfather left to help me out or likely wouldn't be playing 40k.

kburn wrote:
Easily eldar.

Not only is it massively overpowered, fighting against them is just a 3 hour ego-strokefest for the eldar opponent.

Plus, almost every single one of them have the "eldar is for experts ONLY" mentality, and think they're God's gift to tactical thinking.

Glad they're banned in the 2 clubs I go to.

That's really sad. Sad that an entire faction is banned where you play and the accusation that every single Eldar player proclaims themselves as God's gift.

Well let me just say that no we are not all asshats like you say, a lot of us fell in love with the fluff and will be more than happy to tone down their lists in a casual setting to provide a good game as would a number of Tau and Necron players.

And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

Surprised at how few votes there are for Imperial Knights. Perhaps it's because they're rarely played as a standalone army. Honestly though they're just so dull. If you knew they were coming then you packed AT weapons and hope you can blow through them and sit on objectives. If you didn't know they were coming you probably don't have anything like enough firepower to kill 1, let alone 4. The game is basically a binary DPS test for your anti tanks while the rest of your army sits around jerking and tanking wounds for the oh-so-precious meltagunners.

Doesn't necessarily make the game difficult, it's just simply not fun to wade through 24 HP while they seem to completely ignore the effects of your attacks. (I'd imagine that playing against a Riptide wing army would feel about the same)

Necrons. It's always been Necrons. I rarely have a good time playing against them. I can't quite figure out what it is about them that I dislike either. Obviously there are numerous reasons I could dislike playing against them, but none of them really stand out as THE reason. Could just be that I don't like the army in general...

 Torus wrote:

kburn wrote:
Easily eldar.

Not only is it massively overpowered, fighting against them is just a 3 hour ego-strokefest for the eldar opponent.

Plus, almost every single one of them have the "eldar is for experts ONLY" mentality, and think they're God's gift to tactical thinking.

Glad they're banned in the 2 clubs I go to.

That's really sad. Sad that an entire faction is banned where you play and the accusation that every single Eldar player proclaims themselves as God's gift.

Well let me just say that no we are not all asshats like you say, a lot of us fell in love with the fluff and will be more than happy to tone down their lists in a casual setting to provide a good game as would a number of Tau and Necron players.

And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

Much respect for you, sir. It would appear there are less and less Eldar players like you.

Eldar. If after turn three my entire strategy is go to ground behind an Aegis because the rest of my army is pulverised and trying to shoot at Warp Spiders isn't worth my time.

However, that's just the Eldar/Wraithknight/Triptide list. I love fighting Striking Scorpions and the like, but 5 squads of Warp Spiders and 3 of jinking scatterbikes isn't much fun.

 ChazSexington wrote:
Eldar. If after turn three my entire strategy is go to ground behind an Aegis because the rest of my army is pulverised and trying to shoot at Warp Spiders isn't worth my time.

However, that's just the Eldar/Wraithknight/Triptide list. I love fighting Striking Scorpions and the like, but 5 squads of Warp Spiders and 3 of jinking scatterbikes isn't much fun.

Well yeah, playing against people who spam Jetbikes or Warp Spyders it probably not going to be fun.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:
Eldar. If after turn three my entire strategy is go to ground behind an Aegis because the rest of my army is pulverised and trying to shoot at Warp Spiders isn't worth my time.

However, that's just the Eldar/Wraithknight/Triptide list. I love fighting Striking Scorpions and the like, but 5 squads of Warp Spiders and 3 of jinking scatterbikes isn't much fun.

Well yeah, playing against people who spam Jetbikes or Warp Spyders it probably not going to be fun.

I don't mind it at tournaments (it's to be expected), but when people know I'm bringing a fluffy Cultist CSM force it's not gonna be that challenging for them, nor will I be able to put up a decent resistance. Tbh, I do learn from the games, but I'm still incapable of countering anything.

 ChazSexington wrote:
when people know I'm bringing a fluffy Cultist CSM force it's not gonna be that challenging for them,

Dude, if you're bringing CSM Cultists, I will gladly break out my Imperial Guard to play you, and leave my Eldars on the shelf!

Or maybe I'll just bring the Eldar stuff that doesn't see competitive play...

Or maybe, just maybe, I'll ask you what you'd prefer to play against. Because maybe you'd actually rather play against Inquisition or Sisters or something...

 krodarklorr wrote:

 Torus wrote:

kburn wrote:
Easily eldar.

Not only is it massively overpowered, fighting against them is just a 3 hour ego-strokefest for the eldar opponent.

Plus, almost every single one of them have the "eldar is for experts ONLY" mentality, and think they're God's gift to tactical thinking.

Glad they're banned in the 2 clubs I go to.

That's really sad. Sad that an entire faction is banned where you play and the accusation that every single Eldar player proclaims themselves as God's gift.

Well let me just say that no we are not all asshats like you say, a lot of us fell in love with the fluff and will be more than happy to tone down their lists in a casual setting to provide a good game as would a number of Tau and Necron players.

And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

Much respect for you, sir. It would appear there are less and less Eldar players like you.

Sadly we seem to be a dying breed. It's becoming harder and harder to play Eldar, since a lot of people just refuse to play them outright, and that's harsh on those of us who like playing with the less competitive stuff, or who run themed lists (my Iybraesil themed force with lots of Guardians and Banshees for example). It's a shame too, I got into Eldar in 7th edition because a friend of mine gifted me the codex and some Guardians, and that's when I fell in love with them and their fluff. All I ask is that other players give those who play Eldar a chance. We're not all WAAC Power Gamers.

 War Kitten wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

 Torus wrote:

kburn wrote:
Easily eldar.

Not only is it massively overpowered, fighting against them is just a 3 hour ego-strokefest for the eldar opponent.

Plus, almost every single one of them have the "eldar is for experts ONLY" mentality, and think they're God's gift to tactical thinking.

Glad they're banned in the 2 clubs I go to.

That's really sad. Sad that an entire faction is banned where you play and the accusation that every single Eldar player proclaims themselves as God's gift.

Well let me just say that no we are not all asshats like you say, a lot of us fell in love with the fluff and will be more than happy to tone down their lists in a casual setting to provide a good game as would a number of Tau and Necron players.

And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

Much respect for you, sir. It would appear there are less and less Eldar players like you.

Sadly we seem to be a dying breed. It's becoming harder and harder to play Eldar, since a lot of people just refuse to play them outright, and that's harsh on those of us who like playing with the less competitive stuff, or who run themed lists (my Iybraesil themed force with lots of Guardians and Banshees for example). It's a shame too, I got into Eldar in 7th edition because a friend of mine gifted me the codex and some Guardians, and that's when I fell in love with them and their fluff. All I ask is that other players give those who play Eldar a chance. We're not all WAAC Power Gamers.

Luckily my local Eldar players are right in the head and think that a lot of the stuff in the Eldar book is ridiculous, and refrain from bringing scatterbikes and Wraithknights all the time.

 Torus wrote:
And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

That's why I've been playing a thematic list of aspect warriors. While it's a good list, it's not filled with scatbikes. Hell, I even have been running banshees.

 labmouse42 wrote:

 Torus wrote:
And as I try to say to all players who have been burned by the power gamers: I hope you meet and have a great game vs a cool Eldar player...

That's why I've been playing a thematic list of aspect warriors. While it's a good list, it's not filled with scatbikes. Hell, I even have been running banshees.

That sounds like a strong list that would be fun to play against.

I have played Eldar as a main army since 4th ed and they have always been my favorite race. Bikes have always been my favorite Troop. My typical list is about 5 Scatterbike units and a WraithKnight.
However, I also bring a substitute list that trades most of the Scatter lasers for Shuricannons and trades the WK for something like 2x Fire Prisms or some Swooping Hawks and a Night Spinner.

As long as my opponent isn't running Tau, Necron Decurion, SM Gladius or Skyhammer, I'll ask my opponent if they want me to swap for the tone-down list. In fact, I only ever use the "all scatterbike" list in tourneys.
Eldar are surprisingly rare in my area. So much so that I have yet to have anyone deny me a game.

Then again, many players in my area play Forge world army lists, so I get the feeling that most people have no idea what they are fighting most of the time. The general consensus is to just go with it.

Necron Decurion. At least Eldar and Tau die when their supposed to.

I actually stopped playing my Necrons in our group as it was no fun for either sides. Now we have multiple newer Necron players.

Chaos Daemons becouse whennever i see themm its the 2+ invulnarable, invisible, flying kind with a phycic phase longer thenn my whole turn.

People complain anout Warp Spider spam.


You should see them in Killteam.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:
when people know I'm bringing a fluffy Cultist CSM force it's not gonna be that challenging for them,

Dude, if you're bringing CSM Cultists, I will gladly break out my Imperial Guard to play you, and leave my Eldars on the shelf!

Or maybe I'll just bring the Eldar stuff that doesn't see competitive play...

Or maybe, just maybe, I'll ask you what you'd prefer to play against. Because maybe you'd actually rather play against Inquisition or Sisters or something...

Hahahah, IG are the worst for me! 3 Wyverns (110 points?) flatten 35 Cultists, roughly 160 points, per round! And Leman Russ battle tanks do filthy things to anything in power armour!

I would take casual Eldar any day over IG!

 krodarklorr wrote:
That sounds like a strong list that would be fun to play against.

Thanks. That is my goal.

I field a lot of models (88) in my 1850 list. One of the main reasons I do this is to give my opponent lots of models to kill. It's a lot of fun to have your models kill your opponents models. Unlike a scat bike / wraithhost build where it's really hard to remove the eldar models, you can kill my dire avengers, banshees, hawks, and spiders in droves.

The goal is to still be competitive (and it seems to be) yet still be fun for everyone.

My 1850 ITC list

 ChazSexington wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:
when people know I'm bringing a fluffy Cultist CSM force it's not gonna be that challenging for them,

Dude, if you're bringing CSM Cultists, I will gladly break out my Imperial Guard to play you, and leave my Eldars on the shelf!

Or maybe I'll just bring the Eldar stuff that doesn't see competitive play...

Or maybe, just maybe, I'll ask you what you'd prefer to play against. Because maybe you'd actually rather play against Inquisition or Sisters or something...

Hahahah, IG are the worst for me! 3 Wyverns (110 points?) flatten 35 Cultists, roughly 160 points, per round! And Leman Russ battle tanks do filthy things to anything in power armour!

I would take casual Eldar any day over IG!

3 Wyverns are 195pts, not 110, and LRBT's are widely renowned as amongs the poorest options in the book. Eldar will do far worse things to power armor

OK, fair enough then. Tho I would note that I only have 1 Wyvern. For now.