The Ongoing AntiMatterGames DeepWars and ShadowSea News and Rumors Thread!

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**RiTides**

That Sea Dog Corsair art from the pitch-in page above is just great! I've selected the Cephalid Ethermancer for now, but will keep an eye on if that one unlocks through people joining in late

Edit: Pitch-in page link and image:

http://antimatter-games.com/games/blood-reef-pledge/

**highlord tamburlaine**

I have no idea how to fill in that survey. Why do I have to make a decision already? Too many interesting choices!

Do I want to fill in the survey now, or wait for some of that stuff to unlock?

I wonder if I can do the survey and just put my pledge level, and email Eric with my actual choices later on down the line. Most of this stuff needs to get sculpted anyways...

**Barzam**

Well, I'm glad it wasn't just me confused by that survey.

**gunslingerpro**

Survey is very confusing, definitely should've just added money to my initial pledge. Not getting nearly any free points now...

Eh, live and learn.

**Alpharius**

There does need to be a final breakdown of 'points per pledge before trade-ins' section - unless...that already exists?

I'll ask and report back here...

**Bossk_Hogg**

gunslingerpro wrote:
Survey is very confusing, definitely should've just added money to my initial pledge. Not getting nearly any free points now...

Eh, live and learn.

I've done their surveys several times, so could probably help. In general, buying models individually with cash is less efficient than upping your pledge, assuming you want a fair amount of add-ons.

There are a few models that break the typical 1 point = $8 value ratio. Some models are better deal if bought with points (the salvage mech is $12 or 1 point), some are better if bought with cash (the sea dog is only $6 or 1 point, better to use the points elsewhere).

What were you looking at?

**Alpharius**

Keep in mind that you also MIGHT qualify for a bonus point or two if you also backed a previous AntiMatter Games campaign too...

**RiTides**

What determines if you qualify for that, Alph (other than backing a prior campaign). Just certain pledge levels I assume?

**Bossk_Hogg**

Backers of $100 and up get 4 more points of figures. Backers of $230 and up get 1 additional point (for a total of 5)

If you backed a previous project at a $50 or higher level, AND this project at a $45 or higher level, you get 1 additional point.
If you backed a previous project at $225 or higher AND back this project at $225 or higher, you get 1 more point on top of that (total of 2)

Accounting for the basic stretch goals (but not any bonus from if you backed a prior campaign), the cost/points breakdown are now as follows

Battle set - $130, 19 points ($6.84 per pt)

Gamesmaster - $230, 34 points ($6.76 per pt)

Gamesmaster Pro - $320, 52 points ($6.15 per pt)

Gamemaster Ultra - $450, 76 points ($5.92 per pt)

**Alpharius**

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Backers of $100 and up get 4 more points of figures. Backers of $230 and up get 1 additional point (for a total of 5)

If you backed a previous project at a $50 or higher level, AND this project at a $45 or higher level, you get 1 additional point.
If you backed a previous project at $225 or higher AND back this project at $225 or higher, you get 1 more point on top of that (total of 2)

Accounting for the basic stretch goals (but not any bonus from if you backed a prior campaign), the cost/points breakdown are now as follows

Battle set - $130, 19 points ($6.84 per pt)

Gamesmaster - $230, 34 points ($6.76 per pt)

Gamesmaster Pro - $320, 52 points ($6.15 per pt)

Gamemaster Ultra - $450, 76 points ($5.92 per pt)

To get those numbers you're 'trading in' everything though, right?

**Bossk_Hogg**

Alpharius wrote:
Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Backers of $100 and up get 4 more points of figures. Backers of $230 and up get 1 additional point (for a total of 5)

If you backed a previous project at a $50 or higher level, AND this project at a $45 or higher level, you get 1 additional point.
If you backed a previous project at $225 or higher AND back this project at $225 or higher, you get 1 more point on top of that (total of 2)

Accounting for the basic stretch goals (but not any bonus from if you backed a prior campaign), the cost/points breakdown are now as follows

Battle set - $130, 19 points ($6.84 per pt)

Gamesmaster - $230, 34 points ($6.76 per pt)

Gamesmaster Pro - $320, 52 points ($6.15 per pt)

Gamemaster Ultra - $450, 76 points ($5.92 per pt)

To get those numbers you're 'trading in' everything though, right?

Correct. It's just to give an overall sense of value and what you could get. You can "buy" back the starters at 4, the shark at 3, the softcover campaign at 1, the softcover main rule book at 3, and the hardcover main rule book at 7.

**Alpharius**

Update!

Update #32

May 2 2016
Shrimp WIP and new Facebook Group

Hi folks,

Here is the WIP of the Mantis Shrimp. It is a 3D render which will be printed and then modified to add more detail and change the pose.

Also, we have a new Facebook group, The Abyssal Realms, where fans of DeepWars and ShadowSea to share photos of painted miniatures, battle reports and ideas for scenarios and campaigns. If you are interested, you can follow the link below to join the group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheAbyssalRealms/

**Alpharius**

Another sculpting update - The Nereids are turning out great!

Update #33

May 8 2016
Nereid Treasure Seeker WIP

Hi all,

It has been a while since the last post but we've been busy with sculpts. Here is the last of the Nereids in the starter set, the Treasure Seeker. It was done by Paolo again, and is full of character. The model has some minor changes from the concept art - changing the round crystals on the belt to jagged crystals charges like the one in her hand,

Pitch In Pledge Update:

$754.78

Getting to $2000 unlocks the Sea Troll for purchase.

**Alpharius**

Kickstarter Campaign progress:

Update #34

May 21 2016
Some master castings

Hi backers,

Here is a quick update with a pic of some new resin masters castings. The shark and Cephalid Ethermancer will be produced in resin due to their mass while the other two are going to be cast in metal.

**highlord tamburlaine**

New stuff looks good, especially that Ethermancer.

I still worry how well that shark is going to hold its connection to the base. It looks like a small connection point.

It may be an unfounded worry, granted, as a lot of the resin stuff from Antimatter i've built has been incredibly stable and not prone to toppling over, but then I see my gorilla- like children and their propensity to knock anything and everything off a flat surface and I begin to sweat...

That engineer also looks like he'd be a good base for a Techmarine/ Admech conversion with those arms of his!

**Alpharius**

Another update from their recent Kickstarter Campaign:

Update #35

Jun 2 2016
Status and Abyssal Mats

Hi folks,

We're still in the middle of sculpting and casting. The four nereids from the starter set are all in hand and ready to go to casting after some minor edits here and there. One thing about making miniatures is that is is critical to ensure that parts are thick enough, connections fit and nothing is broken or cracked before sending to casting. There are often minor things to check and fix before casting can actually begin, and this process can be short or can be really long and painful. Luckily the nereids were well made to start. Right now, we are working on the Siren Maneater edits for casting and will get that one off soon also.

In the meantime, we are still working on regular releases for DeepWars, including this nice new Abyssal Zone game mat in 24×24 inch and 36×36 inch versions.This environment has a detailed volcanic seafloor with hydrothermal vents, crystal outcroppings, deep sea corals and a whale skeleton. Backers can choose to add this mat to their pledge, $24 for the 24x24 and $48 for the 36x36 version. Adding a mat does add additional weight, so we may need to recalculate shipping if these are added to some reward shipments.

**Alpharius**

Another update on the KS Campaign sculpting progress:

Update #36

Jun 4 2016
More Master Casts and a Shark
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Hi folks.

Here are some more resin master casts of the sea goblins, treasure markers and the hammerhead shark sculpt for Amatheia. The Siren of the Deep is shown for scale.

**Cryptek of Awesome**

Got another email update from ANtiMatter games I thought I'd share:

AntiMatter Games wrote:Hi folks,
GenCon came and went, and many thanks to backers who came by to see the Blood Reef minis and stop to chat. Our booth was really eye-catching with the giant shark banner.

Here is the display case showing the shark, sea goblins and nereids.

We were running demos on a small 18"x18" board, but it was large enough to allow for competitive games. We ran a combination of a salvage and skirmish scenario, with sharks and Cordoba squid hunting down the players. A doom clam caused some havok also, gulping down some models. That was just a placeholder model used there, and the real doom clam is being sculpted right now.

Some people also got to play ShadowSea demos as well, searching for treasure in a wreck on the beaches of the Skeleton Coast. A Lava Lizard was used as a wild creature here, guarding some treasure in the wreck.
In the development front, we are working on the last bits of artwork now for the Blood Reef rulebook and working out a new type of game mat that has more than just coral.

We just got back a resin master of the Siren Maneater and it looks excellent, especially considering it is a one-piece sculpt. We're going into production casting soon for that one.

**ArtIsGreat**

Best way to get me to buy metal models is making them one piece

**Alpharius**

Well, these models are very nice, and most are not at all difficult to assemble.

They're basically quite fantastic and the game is really, really fun too!

**dagerg**

Check out our latest video battle report with DeepWars and our first use of the models in the Blood Reef suppolement - the Nereids! It was a great battle!

In a continuation of the story arc from our last battle report, the Fortune Hunters, having captured the Laurentian Science lab, are pit against the Nereids, in a mission to grab as much treasure from the drop-off to Blood Reef. Our battle this time is of two forces of ~735 points each.

Here's the link to the YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOQO3zXV8fI

Picture of the game in-progress!

**Alpharius**

Love this game - and thanks for posting this battle report!

I hope to be getting my stuff from the latest Kickstarter soon...

**Shrapnelsmile**

Will Antimatter be at Adepticon with Deep Wars? I'm chomping at the bit for a demo!

**highlord tamburlaine**

I'm impatiently still waiting for all my goodies too.

This is probably one of my most eagerly awaited kickstarters.

Most looking forward to all that wildlife that's going to come muck things up or get summoned on to the table.

**dagerg**

Thanks! We have a lot of fun making the battle reports. We've done 6 so far and we have more planned, stay tuned to that channel!

And thanks for the positive thoughts, I was a little nervous replying to such an old thread (the forum software even warned me), but this is such cool stuff I couldn't resist.

I don't think AMG will be at Adepticon, but likely at GenCon. I hope to make it to GenCon myself this year.

Such a fun game and I love the aesthetic and the vibrancy of the miniatures and terrain.

**dagerg**

We've just completed our 7th video battle report for DeepWars! In this game, we match the Ancients of Atalán vs. the Nereids of Blood Reef. After their victory against the Fortune Hunters in the last battle report, the Nereids head back towards their base in the Sunken city, only to chance upon a mechanized reconnaisance force of Ataláns trespassing on their territory. The Nereids unleash their fury! Will it be enough to destroy the monstrous undersea automatons of the Ancients?

Here's the link to the video battle report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdfHTSJnFw

If you like our battle reports, subscribe to our YouTube channel to get notified when they're published!

Here's some pics of the battle:

Enjoy!