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 Tenzilla wrote:
I use Inquisitor Coatez very often. The Ive been expecting rule helps block of a large part of the board.

I had him with a unit of MM servitors against a SW drop pod list....It was pretty nasty...it moved all the drop pods to a semi safe distance.

MAybe this has been covered somewhere else....but we argued about the order of how things happen....

Would I be able to shoot at both the drop pod, then the unit that comes out?

Am I only allowed to shoot the drop pod?

In this situation i think RAW is fairly clear. For Coteaz it says "him and his unit may intercept any enemy unit that arrives from reserve within his bubble" <-- this is not a quote.. but my paraphrase. So.. the drop pod and the units inside both arrived from reserve and are considered two separate units. Since intercept happens at the end of your opponents movement phase... order of operation does not really matter here. Simply, you may fire at both of them!


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I realize people argue that the marines inside the pod "arrived from inside the pod" and the pod is the only thing that "arrived from reserves" .. but this is not the correct interpretation. And before this escalates into a debate... use the search, there are plenty of threads about this I am sure.

Thats what I argued..obviously...he claimed I only shoot the pod, since I popped them all, I countered with all his guys are dead then...Not that I think that is how it works, I was just being difficult...He argued they were the same unit. I only shoot once.

 Tenzilla wrote:
Thats what I argued..obviously...he claimed I only shoot the pod, since I popped them all, I countered with all his guys are dead then...Not that I think that is how it works, I was just being difficult...He argued they were the same unit. I only shoot once.

It happens.. when people don't fully understand a rule and see their entire force getting removed from the table they start puking rules that probably aren't true.

How about counter mobility with mobility?

6" move + 4d6" assault move.

Don't drop close to Coteaz.

For Tau anti gladius/heavy drop pods

Missile sides + EWO are the best choice, they don't require markerlights because twin-linked and you can even try giving them plasma over SMS but I prefer just dumping high quantity wounds and forcing them to roll 1s and 2s.

with the updated codex they best thing now is the drone formation.

markerlight drones with intercept means you aren't wasting shots with BS3.

I'd run a retaliation cadre + drone network = dawn blade.

and a riptide wing with 3 burst tides.

run some plasma suits with EWO, broadsides with EWO, and the riptide inside the retaliation cadre with IA + ewo.

you can either deploy everything on the table if you are going 2nd. or if you go first keep the cadre in reserves and deepstrike them ontop of his first turn pods - then you can still intercept his 2nd turn pods.

the riptide wing is your solution to MSU. don't intercept with them, just protect them with what already has EWO and then on your next shooting turn hailfire with 72 str 6 rending shots + 24 SMS shots all with split fire (hail fire lets you target different things with each shot)

gladius is no longer a problem here.

give two burst tides velocity trackers to counter flier lists.

since you have dawn blade you can handle any knight/WK/deathstar list as well.

remember that the drone network only buffs BS in your shooting phase. If you want to use their interceptor function, they resolve at BS2.

Alternately, put a Mark'o in the squad, then it all resolves at BS5.

 carldooley wrote:
remember that the drone network only buffs BS in your shooting phase. If you want to use their interceptor function, they resolve at BS2.

Alternately, put a Mark'o in the squad, then it all resolves at BS5.

Not this argument again. Seriously, quit it. The game breaks if you don't treat a shooting attack as happening during the shooting phase.

The blackmanes formation is not much to be that afraid about. Though if they ally in marines with the skyhammer that may be scary.

Best idea is just to shoot down the grey hunters first and bubble wrap the better units, such as broadsides or tides. That should do fine.

We've got 17 years of "how do I beat Drop Pod marines" on the internet. Look around.

What can the new SW bring with a couple of extra pods that other armies couldn't?

I mean do they have some fantastic units to fill these pods with?

DarknessEternal wrote:We've got 17 years of "how do I beat Drop Pod marines" on the internet. Look around.

Main difference being you are seeing 3-5 pods come in turn 1 and the rest roll for reserves.

I have confirmed my friend will have 9 pods that come in turn 1, and on that turn, his army is fearless as well as FNP (6+), its the fearless part that kinda sucks as I can't force moral through EWO.

Man, what a world your games take place in that you're usual strategy for Drop Pod Marines is to make them fail morale checks.

I find your meta intriguing.

 Grizzyzz wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:We've got 17 years of "how do I beat Drop Pod marines" on the internet. Look around.

Main difference being you are seeing 3-5 pods come in turn 1 and the rest roll for reserves.

I have confirmed my friend will have 9 pods that come in turn 1, and on that turn, his army is fearless as well as FNP (6+), its the fearless part that kinda sucks as I can't force moral through EWO.

Here, we usually try to murder everything to a man. Well, Eldar and Tau do. Just kill them. They're just marines.

Vespid spam. It might seem strange but it works like a charm. And they never expect it.

If i were to face this i would use the Riptide Wing with the Heavy Retribution Cadre and a CAD with some bubblewrap and a Void Shield Generator.

Something like this:


Find the best protected corner you can so that he has to funnel towards you. Castle up, Anchor the surges, Hailfire the Riptides and then drop as many Large Blast as possible with all units. This way you can hopefully maximize your blasts hit rate.

You will hopefully survive the shooting with minimal casualties (even unharmed) and next turn you can double tap with the Surges.
The HRC "Slow" effect will be very nice for this particular occasion and so will the VSG.

X078 wrote:
If i were to face this i would use the Riptide Wing with the Heavy Retribution Cadre and a CAD with some bubblewrap and a Void Shield Generator.

Something like this:

Spoiler:

Tau CAD 1850
Ethereal
2x Strike Team [5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle, DS8 Tactical Support Turret [Smart Missile System]
Void Shield Generator [3x Projected Void Shields]

Heavy Retribution Cadre
2x Stormsurge [Early Warning Override, Pulse Driver Cannon, Shield Generator, Twin-linked Airbursting Fragmentation Projector]
Ghostkeel [Early Warning Override, Fusion Collider, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]

Riptide Wing
3x XV104 Riptide [Early Warning Override, Ion Accelerator, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]

Find the best protected corner you can so that he has to funnel towards you. Castle up, Anchor the surges, Hailfire the Riptides and then drop as many Large Blast as possible with all units. This way you can hopefully maximize your blasts hit rate.

You will hopefully survive the shooting with minimal casualties (even unharmed) and next turn you can double tap with the Surges.
The HRC "Slow" effect will be very nice for this particular occasion and so will the VSG.

Solid list.

I think I am going to use one of my usual lists however..

Retaliation Cadre + Counterstrike Cadre

If shooting is not super strong, then my Fish should be able to survive with 3+ jinks and after that.. I can move drop my breacher teams and blast holes all over. Meanwhile my Suits come in and I should be able to create enough space that I by myself at the minimum another turn without CC involved.

I actually would not mind going 2nd here but since his army comes in turn 1, he is more then likely not deploying anything on the table, so I can hope for that turn 1 supremacy card in Maelstrom haha!

The best choice are sevro skulls on an INQ for 35 points, followed by land speeder storms. The pods will scatter 2x as far.

My null deployment works against enemies.

2x LSS in cover in the most corner of the board. Maxing the 12" 2x scatter zone, I place them over lapping making it scary as hell to land in there. The pod extra scatters and it is way riskier of off the table mishaps when you deploy near a table edge.

Kind of happy that I already put EWO on everything I possibly can just in case I end up coming across a Drop Pod army, this recent update encourages me to do it even moreso now!