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Karamazoff's By Any Means Necessary lets you target your own models with no-scatter blasts even if they're engaged in combat.

Because you don't target the enemy, they may not jink/don't benefit from invisibility, all that great stuff.

But if you're targeting yourself, can you then elect to Jink to get a cover save from Karamazoff's non ignores-cover attack?

Jink can be declared specifically I believe when a unit is selected as the target of a shooting attack, but not necessarily an enemy shooting attack, so on that basis yes you may.

the_scotsman wrote:
Karamazoff's By Any Means Necessary lets you target your own models with no-scatter blasts even if they're engaged in combat.

Karamazov's rule never allows you to declare one of your own unit as the *target* of his Orbital shooting attack. Basically, you proceed as normal during the shooting phase except when it comes to placing the blast template(s) :
1) Nominate Karamazov unit's to shoot
2) Choose an ennemy unit as the target for Karamazov's unit shooting attacks
3) Select a weapon (Karamazov's Orbital Bombardment)
4) Because it's a blast weapon you do not roll to hit. Instead you place the template over one model from the targeted enemy unit and scatter -or- you can use "By Any Means Necessary" and place the template over one of your own model and no scatter.
5) Roll to wound
6) Allocate wounds and remove casualties
7) Select another weapon in Karamazov's unit.

"By Any Means Necessary" only kicks in during step #4 in the shooting process.
So you still have to declare an enemy unit as the target, your own models can't jink, etc...

However... by RAW nothing prevents big K to place his template so that they cover a different unit that the one that was declared the target of his shooting attack (ie you declare A as the target, but hit B by placing the template over one of your model close to B).

So....wait.

I can "declare a target" of the orbital bombardment, make my opponent declare a Jink, then I'm not even required to hit the target unit at all with the blast, and the ones I do hit with the blast aren't targets so they can't Jink?

That sounds....odd.

Isn't the far simpler explanation that BAMN allows you to target friendly units with blasts? Aren't you targeting a unit when you center the blast over them??


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Doesn't your interpretation theoretically grant Karamazov split fire even when he doesn't have it?

Odd effect for an odd rule. Nothing surprising. And yeah in the end you can use it as a weird form of split fire.

But that's how it is. You can just place the template in a different way than normal, nothing change about the targeting.
And it's a good thing, because it doesnt screw the whole thing up when big K join a unit that also shoot some weapons.