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YASSSSS

the most exciting release of AoS so far

Honestly I'm mainly excited to see which model ranges are staying!

RoperPG wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
that they are obvious Space Marine analogs

only to the desperate.

In Gav Thorpe's blog on his AoS book, he even said that the idea of introducing the Space Marine trope into WFB dates back to his time in the studio.

Yet more evidence that Thorpe should have stuck to writing rules and left the background/novel writing to people with some actual talent.

 Yodhrin wrote:

RoperPG wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
that they are obvious Space Marine analogs

only to the desperate.

In Gav Thorpe's blog on his AoS book, he even said that the idea of introducing the Space Marine trope into WFB dates back to his time in the studio.

Yet more evidence that Thorpe should have stuck to writing rules and left the background/novel writing to people with some actual talent.

It doesn't say it was his idea.

I'm alright with Dwarf steam tanks.

Always thought it was a better fit for them than the humans anyways.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'm alright with Dwarf steam tanks.

Always thought it was a better fit for them than the humans anyways.

My French is non-existent but doesn't it say the Steam tanks and Organ guns of the humans and the Gyrobombers of the Duardin?

I'm going to guess what it says based on similar English words lmao

"The premier faction that transcends racial limits, it's the Ironweld Arsenal! With the marvellous technology of the humans cometh the steam tanks and the Organ Guns and also the Gyrobombers of the Duardin fashioned from old batteries and escalators and machines making them grrrrrr invincible!"

this release seems a bit pointless, if you must do Khorne surely something like flesh hounds would sell far more?
or at least do things from the starter set that dont have individual models (though they may be coming too)

The hint for next week is 'the realmgate wars continue in beastly fashion'. Seems like it is Orruks next week. I am a bit confused about this. The Orruk release is rumoured to be quite large, but the info about the space marine event is coming in two weeks. Will we be getting new Orruks released on the celebration week?

Of course it's duardin steam flyer engine things, not tanks - little translation error from french > english ^.^

 judgedoug wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
that they are obvious Space Marine analogs

only to the desperate.


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All three of those new Khorne models are great.

They are not super over the top but still full of khorne delightfulness.

Once again incredibly apparent that GW has their top tier sculptors working exclusively on AoS while 40k has been handed off to the unpaid interns.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Other than the Space Werewolves, the 40k releases are far superior. The AOS stuff continues with it's awful aesthetic. I have yet to see a single AOS model that make me think: " I MUST have that!".
As for them not being Space Marines in fantasy: Are you seriously denying that? Normally I agree with most of your posts but I think you're off on this one. Oh well. To each, their own I suppose...

Flagellants!!! YES!!! Nice to see they're staying.

Truth be told, since the End Times I've been keeping a reserve of funds for WHFB stuff I'd always wanted to get for 40k conversion fodder, holding back waiting to see how the chips fall. Last Chance to Buy or repackage with price decrease?

Of course it then becomes a question of whether to buy the repackaged sets or continue to build up the reserve for others that inevitably end up on the chopping block. Part of the calculus comes down to how long of a reprieve will AoS buy for those sets that remain. Gotta use strategery...

 Yodhrin wrote:

RoperPG wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
that they are obvious Space Marine analogs

only to the desperate.

In Gav Thorpe's blog on his AoS book, he even said that the idea of introducing the Space Marine trope into WFB dates back to his time in the studio.

Yet more evidence that Thorpe should have stuck to writing rules and left the background/novel writing to people with some actual talent.

Gav Thorpe leaving can actually be pointed to as the moment when the fluff went off the deep end.

About the old armies that will be in the Grand Order, I wonder if it means they won't receive new models and if those that aren't in there are going to the chopping block. Wood Elves for example.


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Also wouldn't the hint be about Beastmen rather than Orruks? I know we haven't heard rumors about that but the choice of words seems strange.

 Haechi wrote:

Also wouldn't the hint be about Beastmen rather than Orruks? .

I can't imagine that AoS would have something as mundane as 'Beastmen'... Surely you mean 'Moonbayer Crushknobblers'.

 Haechi wrote:



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Also wouldn't the hint be about Beastmen rather than Orruks? I know we haven't heard rumors about that but the choice of words seems strange.

The Orruks live in the realm of beasts. We have been to fire, life and metal so far(plus a little time in death). Beasts is next. After this there is only shadow and light left where we will presumably meet Aelves and Humans.

Loving the grand alliance book the more I hear about it!

@Stormcast=Space marine, that's without a doubt what they're expies of. Is that bad? Certainly not!

I see them as Space marines put in a blender with Dark souls, mixed with God of War sauce and given a dash of He-man. What's not to like? (Stormcast> Space marines btw)

@Gav Thorpe discussion, it certainly goes back a long way to when it was hinted that the two franchises were in the same universe. One white dwarf even had a small story of an assualt squad slaughtering a beastmen herd.

Also, I saw John Blanche artwork of the Stormcast that showed they were previously going to be in the old world.

@Haechi, I think the wood elves are pretty safe as they were a recent release prior to the End Times and wanderers are talked about(scantly) in the fluff where as Tomb kings and Bretonnians were not. (they may return someday in a new form, though)

I've seen alot of rumors of upcoming Orruk and Ogor related novels so that could be a indication.

Baron Klatz wrote:
... it certainly goes back a long way to when it was hinted that the two franchises were in the same universe. One white dwarf even had a small story of an assualt squad slaughtering a beastmen herd.

Beastmen were not unique to the WHFB setting. GW even made Imperial Guard Beastmen.

Indeed, Beastmen used to be an abhuman used in the Guard much like Ogryn or Ratlings.

The old Epic Guard sprues had Beastmen on them too.

Haha, that's true(and that's a awesome set) but the setting of that little side story did take place on the old world. (Might of been the Drakwald forest)

 Haechi wrote:
About the old armies that will be in the Grand Order, I wonder if it means they won't receive new models and if those that aren't in there are going to the chopping block. Wood Elves for example.

Are you saying woodelves would be chopped? Seeing as they just received many new items ...

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 Haechi wrote:
About the old armies that will be in the Grand Order, I wonder if it means they won't receive new models and if those that aren't in there are going to the chopping block. Wood Elves for example.

Are you saying woodelves would be chopped? Seeing as they just received many new items ...

I fully expect that most special character kits will either be dropped (think older kits like Eltharion, Malekith, and the Valtens) or given generic names. I also wouldn't be surprised if they decided to pare down kits that are too similar (how many Aelf Spearmen units do they really need?).

From the age of sigmar Facebook page. 'the first clues to the appearance of a new type of Orruk are in the new audio drama' obviously it is a bit of salesmanship by the Gw mod but it confirms that the upcoming Orruk releases will feature 'new' Orruks.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 Haechi wrote:
About the old armies that will be in the Grand Order, I wonder if it means they won't receive new models and if those that aren't in there are going to the chopping block. Wood Elves for example.

Are you saying woodelves would be chopped? Seeing as they just received many new items ...

I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if they were. I haven't seen all 10 Aelves factions from the Order GA book yet and that will be the deciding factor. Everything that will not be in it, is probably on the chopping blocks.

 Haechi wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 Haechi wrote:
About the old armies that will be in the Grand Order, I wonder if it means they won't receive new models and if those that aren't in there are going to the chopping block. Wood Elves for example.

Are you saying woodelves would be chopped? Seeing as they just received many new items ...

I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if they were. I haven't seen all 10 Aelves factions from the Order GA book yet and that will be the deciding factor. Everything that will not be in it, is probably on the chopping blocks.

I don't think wood elves are going anywhere. Sylvaneth again least definitely aren't as they've been in the story already.

No the Sylvaneth are here to stay for sure. But they're not associated with each other anymore. At all. Sylvaneth are their own faction now; the children of an HE queen made goddess. And without them, the WE only have a couple of new kits. They also have only one formation, and that doesn't look good.

I'm fairly certain they are the next ones being squatted after the Bretonnians.

I think all the factions will lose some models. Wardancers and warhawks for example. Brettonia will probably be the last faction to be axed completely.

There are mentions of structures built by an unknown source in Alarielle's hidden grove; the overall grove description went out of its way to mention them in a manner that lent it significance beyond what a short blurb normally would. Coupled with wood elves getting releases during a period where GW was (supposedly) working on Age of Sigmar I think that "Wanderers" will definitely be one of those 10 elf factions.

Well at some point during the Warden of the Everqueen novel, Alarielle herself builds one of those structures. Yet she clearly mentions her people are the Sylvaneth, and that's it.

When was that?

When she gives audience to the main SE dude, around the beginning.