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I am thinking its a repackage of flesheater courts from the Death alliance. So ghouls and the like, possibly with a battletome/something new thrown in.

Details starting to come out in UK (national manager's meeting Monday).
4 classifications, not based on keywords - In essence characters, troops, warmachines and monsters.
Each category is min/maxed relative to the others.
Core rules unchanged.
Get down your local GW, looks like managers have been briefed on what the plans are and are allowed to discuss.

RoperPG wrote:
Details starting to come out in UK (national manager's meeting Monday).
4 classifications, not based on keywords - In essence characters, troops, warmachines and monsters.
Each category is min/maxed relative to the others.
Core rules unchanged.
Get down your local GW, looks like managers have been briefed on what the plans are and are allowed to discuss.

Considering they already have those keywords I don't know why they wouldn't just use them.

The SCGT pool system, for example, is based around their house rules (i.e. units are costed based on the house rules and scenarios). 'Points' + the ability to summon a lot and 1+ saves. If this is the case it will not work; and can only be more damaging.

Here's hoping I've misunderstood.

RoperPG wrote:
Each category is min/maxed relative to the others.

Can you extrapolate? Are you talking about a force org?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
While everything is getting even more heroic in terms of size, have we seen an actual, regular, human at this point?

I think it would be pretty cool if when the time comes, the average human are the same size as most of the current range. I wouldn't consider the Bloodbound to be normal humans at this point, but more roided out full of grimdark angst and rage types more than anything.

Heck, even the Fyreslayers aren't that drastically large compared to their old "Duardin" brothers. Their helmets, mohawks, and gear on the other hand...

if you out the duardin on a 32 mm base like the Fyreslayers is on there's not really a big diff, some are the same get and bulk. Same as a few demon slayes Mohawk height.

Veterannoob typing on a phone I think. There was a photo going around showing that if you remove the mohecan from the fyreslayers, they are exactly the same height as the 8th edition Dwarves. The models have certainly got bigger in Aos but I don't think the scale has. If next week does turn out to be new zombies, we should find out then. Failing that I am hopeful that the silver tower game will have regular humans.

 Manchu wrote:

RoperPG wrote:
Each category is min/maxed relative to the others.

Can you extrapolate? Are you talking about a force org?

All I've got so far is this;
GW Hull Twitter
So far from conclusive, but does suggest force org of a sort.
As to not using keywords, I'd imagine if they're producing a doc with unit X = Y points, adding a classification to it wouldn't be too difficult.
I'd hazard a guess that (for example) you might want a Celestant on Stardrake to be a 'behemoth' rather than a 'leader', which if based on keywords could get confusing.

Although the tweet isn't much to go on, it already suggests that this system won't be the SCGT as it is.
Our local GW manager is basically Bottle in a company shirt, so I'll be interested to see what his take on it is.

RoperPG wrote:
All I've got so far is this;
GW Hull Twitter

Thanks! From that source:

the way to build your army says you can have min/max of each depending on size

Sounds like a FOC alright.

From Twitter: the details of how we are going to get these points, as well as the narrative side of things.

So basically this is going to be a huge book including tons of new material for all three "ways to play"? I'm... super excited!

Huh, sounds like a book I want to buy. Will be interesting to see if they make the point system available for free, though.

Points for every scroll and battalion, going back to the 2k average size.

Book sounds awesome and will be a must buy. Dan mentioned the price was good too, so I'm expecting like the GW books.

Will be a new era for AoS - pumped!

In terms of the 3 ways to play, GW has announced further details via the podcast (hopefully this isn't breaking any rules, as mod on warhammer.org I'd hate to be flaunting em!):

http://www.heelanhammer.com/onlythefaithful

Yo yo yo!

Welcome fans, to a VERY special episode of HeelanHammer. On today's show, we are joined by Ben Curry of The Bad Dice Podcast, and Russ Veal of the FaceHammer Podcast to discuss something rather exciting!

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great, now I have to paint my Stormcasts in prep for matched play.

Dan, I think we'd all be dying to hear your interpretation of the points you saw combined with the scenarios, and how you think it will do for the "balance" seekers. Thanks for the great podcasts!

Hey Dan, huge props for your work in the AoS Community, I've been listening since AoS launch and you've been an unrelenting force of positivity, helping the game grow... keep up the great work!

Dan, I think we'd all be dying to hear your interpretation of the points you saw combined with the scenarios, and how you think it will do for the "balance" seekers. Thanks for the great podcasts!

I can't really give too many thoughts at this stage, although we will obviously be discussing this more in the months to come. I think the main thing to remember with this book, is that is encourages multiple ways to play. Don't like points? Don't play that way. Love points? Something for you. When I play Wayne (co-host for those that don't know) we won't play points, we would play narrative. If I play a random new player at club I've never played I will play Matched as its. All ways are equally valid and I'm personally very excited about what this means for the game.

Also, if the system comes out and you don't agree with points/other bits, alter them as you see fit for your own games/events! We've been saying similar with our well received SCGT system - there are odd bits people don't like and don't agree with and we've encouraged people to take the system and adapt how you like - its a gaming aid. Much like this book, think 'toolbox/aid'.

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keep up the great work!

Thanks! We will as long as people love listening to us, we'll be here.

Thanks, Dan! You guys have done more for the community than can be explained - truly podcast eternals.

Thanks, Dan!

You guys have done so much for the community, that words can hardly express how much we thank you.

Sounds great, but please, please make it a reasonable price. For £20 I will be all over this. Any more and it risks failing to be the kickstart to the community it wants to be.

Chikout wrote:
Sounds great, but please, please make it a reasonable price. For £20 I will be all over this. Any more and it risks failing to be the kickstart to the community it wants to be.

I'm gonna ballpark it at around the price of a Battletome, so like $58 USD?

Could be way cheaper or more expensive.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Sounds great, but please, please make it a reasonable price. For £20 I will be all over this. Any more and it risks failing to be the kickstart to the community it wants to be.

I'm gonna ballpark it at around the price of a Battletome, so like $58 USD?

Could be way cheaper or more expensive.

Hoping for the former.

I mean, there's a lot of unknown quantity going on to make any real price guessing useless.

Is it paperback?
Is it a big book?
Is it a collection of books?

Exactly, and with all that content most likely in the rulebook price category or slightly less.

Not going to listen again right now but I thought Dan made reference to the price being cheap on the podcast. Think it's in line with GA books. Could be misremembering. Expecting it's an annually updated thing though, as new miniatures will always be coming out.

coldgaming wrote:
Not going to listen again right now but I thought Dan made reference to the price being cheap on the podcast. Think it's in line with GA books.

That's a pretty broad range...

The cheapest Grand Alliance books(Death and Destruction) are $16.50 while the second most expensive(Chaos) is $33, and the most expensive(Order) is $35.

ShaneTB posted this in the AoS section, although no link to the source:

 ShaneTB wrote:

Comment on War of Sigmar wrote:...according to the local gw manager here in the uk, the managers can talk about it (!) and it will likely be £15. many were at hq the last few days reading through the drafts

That would be really cheap for all this content!

Hello.

From comments here: https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/720

Also more GW manager conversations. Talk of a target store date:

Summer = 23rd July (ish) - start of British School Holidays?....

...local GW store manager confirmed that's the target date for release/

Thanks for that, Shane!!

That would put it roughly a year after AoS' release.

"160-odd pages" is mentioned on the podcast.