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[spoiler] andSo, with the 13th Legion in roughly the place I want them to be, I decided to go and build another force. Seeing as how Leman Russes are great I decided to go with the Solar Auxilia who can do armored formations pretty well. I have the following:

20-man Lasrifle section.

Leman Russ Vanquisher

Leman Russ Vanquisher/Exterminator

Baneblade

And soon I am getting a Stormlord(!).

What else should I get? I was thinking a commander guy, a command squad, another Lasrifle section and a Veteralis storm section for that sweet Volkite to start off with. I have like 3 Aegis defense lines as well and I hear Lasrifle sections can take them in leiu of a Dracosan.

well, if you wanted to do armored companies, you would probably be better off with militia leman russ tanks since they are allowed sponsons, and can generally fit more tanks in (since their troop slots can be arguably more effective for less points overall)

that aside, for an armored company avoid most lasrifle sections and stick with volkite veletaris in demolisher dracosans. A lord marshal would be a good step in the right direction, as would the command squad he comes with, though you would probably be better off just converting up a lord marshal, and filling the rest of the HQ slots with tank commanders. Since you'll have 2 super heavies, an onslaught (?) Cad would be best (the one that allows 2 LoWs, and has a mandatory 1 HS slot) something silly you could aim for would look like this:

1 lord marshal
2 tank commanders

6 squads of 3 veletaris ALL in dracosans
4 household sections ALL in dracosans

3 full fast attack leman russ'

3 full heavy support leman russ'

baneblade/Stormhammer

stupid lists aside, be prepared to drop lots of cash and/or theme your list well for the sake of saving money. Vanquishers are passable, but there are better dedicated AT weapons you can take in an auxilia list to be fair.
finally, you can take aegis lines as "dedicated transport" in any troop tercios, so it's not limited to lasrifles, but also the flamers and veletaris as well.

I recommend starting another army and getting off of my turf They are fun, though I still think that a marine/militia list would be better for a full on armored division.

The Commandsquad+Leader will more or less be a must, since you can only use a Tank Commander as a Required HQ in allied detachments. The Command Squad is also a good source of Grenade Launchers, In the Solar Aux Army Grenade Launchers get access to Haywire Rounds.

Multiple Storm Squad 1st Tercio deployed inside the Storm Lord and 1-3 Las rifle sections+Defensive Lines for the 2nd Tercio would be pretty strong.

A alt idea tho is that instead of a Stormlord, I like the Stormsword instead. 10" Blast, Ignore Cover, S10, AP2 is amazing. And well 36" range is "short" in apoc it's fine for most standard 40k boards. You would then take your Storm Squads with drasocan.


But I guess the big question is do you want to use Leeman Russ or Malcador's in your heavy support slot? The Malcador is prety strong, but the Leeman Russ Incinerator is pretty fun.

The main cannon on the Vanquisher is magnetized so I could use it as another tank. So, would an infantry centric Solar Auxilia list work better? I am not dead set on an armored division if it means a whole lot of money wasted for a poor army.

@Lock

Hmm. That would be cool. And I hear you can make the Stormsword swappable with a Shadowsword as long as you don't glue the barrel down.

I'm totally fine with using Malcadors. I think it's a nice looking tank.

Alternatively, I was planning a WW2 British themed Militia force using my considerable collection of beret wearing guardsman.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
The main cannon on the Vanquisher is magnetized so I could use it as another tank. So, would an infantry centric Solar Auxilia list work better? I am not dead set on an armored division if it means a whole lot of money wasted for a poor army.

@Lock

Hmm. That would be cool. And I hear you can make the Stormsword swappable with a Shadowsword as long as you don't glue the barrel down.

I'm totally fine with using Malcadors. I think it's a nice looking tank.

Alternatively, I was planning a WW2 British themed Militia force using my considerable collection of beret wearing guardsman.

When it comes to Mechanized vs. Foot Slogger I don't think one of better then the other. Generally the only rule of thumb I've seen is keep all the units in a single Tercio the same "type" so they can support each other with their "Hold the Line". So you want all the units in a Tercio deployed in a Drasocan or all on foot with defensive lines.

The only objectively "bad" unit choice in their troops would be a Las-rifle Section is a Drasocan with Twin-linked Lascannon.

The Malcador Annihilator with seige armour and flare shield is pretty rock solid TBH, and it's great to be able to run these smaller super heavy tanks along side a baneblade in LoW. The Leeman Russ in Heavy Support are nice since if their are 2+ tanks in the squadron they become BS4.

I don't know if you find this usefull but, here is my Solar Aux/Warp-cult list. Might give you some ideas for the sillyness you can get out of combining the two forces. The Milita make great allies to the Solar Aux.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/678851.page

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Hmm. That would be cool. And I hear you can make the Stormsword swappable with a Shadowsword as long as you don't glue the barrel down.

Yeah, its quite easy. Did that myself with my Stormsword/Shadowsword for my Ordo Reductor.

Well, with two Lords Of War, you want one of the force org charts with multiple slots.

Leviathan drastically cuts your other slots, but Onslaught gives you two and (aside from a compulsory heavy support) is pretty good for other slots.

Lasrifle sections are good, but very focused - that is, they are a static antipersonnel firing line with next to no ability to peel enemies out of transports, engage tough stuff like battle-automata or sentinals. A tercio of lasrifle units behind an aegis line gives you a good defensive 'pocket' to put tanks behind, whilst the storm sections go out in dracosans and/or a stormlord to grab objectives upfield.

The Lord Marshall is amazing. Aside from anything he does by himself, making your entire army Ld10 can't be overstated in importance.

 Ankhalagon wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Hmm. That would be cool. And I hear you can make the Stormsword swappable with a Shadowsword as long as you don't glue the barrel down.

Yeah, its quite easy. Did that myself with my Stormsword/Shadowsword for my Ordo Reductor.

I don't want to go too OT, but how do you take a stormsword/shadowsword with Ordo Reductor? The redbook says you can only induct superheavies that aren't in any other Horus Heresy publication, and both of those are in HH4. I am curious because I want one for the Ordo Reductor!

locarno24 wrote:

Lasrifle sections are good, but very focused - that is, they are a static antipersonnel firing line with next to no ability to peel enemies out of transports, engage tough stuff like battle-automata or sentinals. A tercio of lasrifle units behind an aegis line gives you a good defensive 'pocket' to put tanks behind, whilst the storm sections go out in dracosans and/or a stormlord to grab objectives upfield.

Sir, I have to disagree. While not 100% reliable, but their ability to throw out 20 S:6 shots let's you mulch rhinos, harm most automata, and in general be a threat to light vehicles/heavy infantry/smaller MCs. with how cheap they are, you can basically swarm knights and glance them to death since they can't have shields everywhere. Is there better options to deal with these: OH yes, no question, but they have no way of popping a transport/actually being somewhat of a threat towards automata? Lies .

From playing the army more, I'm finding that these guys do fairly well when you are more mobile with them. Running them up as a secondary line behind a few veletaris or marine squads is a good way to make them less of an immediate threat for your enemy, and a nice way to force more armor saves on his infantry out in the open. Pair this with the ability to poop out S: 6 shots when you need to, and the vox to guide artillery, and they can be made into an effective AI/AT unit (albeit with support of course).

Other then that, I agree with most of your post

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

 Ankhalagon wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Hmm. That would be cool. And I hear you can make the Stormsword swappable with a Shadowsword as long as you don't glue the barrel down.

Yeah, its quite easy. Did that myself with my Stormsword/Shadowsword for my Ordo Reductor.

I don't want to go too OT, but how do you take a stormsword/shadowsword with Ordo Reductor? The redbook says you can only induct superheavies that aren't in any other Horus Heresy publication, and both of those are in HH4. I am curious because I want one for the Ordo Reductor!

Well, on page 21 is nothing written, that forbids that. And the plastik-tank is not the Acurian-pattern(Hull-mounted heavy bolter), therefore not the same tank. That page is a little crazy.