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So I've been playing with Khan's scout rule, adding him and other WS ICs to other factions rhino's to give whole armies scout and one of the more amusing ones I found is that you can make a reasonably competitive Dark Angel's Lions Blade Strikeforce and give up to 7 of it's free rhino's scout. I chose to go for 5 here having everything else in pods to save points for upgrades, but yeah, pretty neat.

Basically how it works is Khan makes all whitescars models have scout when embarked on rhinos/razorbacks, since only 1 model needs to have scout for the unit to scout, WS ICs grant scout to any rhino/razorback, even DA, BA, SW, or SOB ones as per RAW. So take a CAD with Khan, make him your warlord, Then a libcon, put each of the ICs in a different rhino and voila! you have up to 7 scouting transports. Yeah, the Libcon gets harder to use, but it''s more supposed to be amusing than SUPER competitive. Here's my list, let me know what you think, and also if it works.


++ Dark Angels: Codex (2015) (DA The Lion's Blade Detachment) (1310pts) ++

+ Core (1255pts) +

Battle Demi Company (640pts)
Assault Squad 2x Flamer

Drop Pod
Chaplain [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Infantry]

Devastator Squad [2x Grav Cannon with Gravamp
Rhino
Tactical Squad [Grav Cannon with Gravamp Combi-melta
Rhino
Tactical Squad [Grav Cannon with Gravamp Combi-melta
Rhino
Tactical Squad [Lascannon, 4x Combi-melta
Rhino

Battle Demi Company (615pts)

Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine, 2x Flamer]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]

Company Master
Artificer Armour [Bolt PistolPower Sword]

Devastator Squad [2x Grav Cannon with Gravamp
Rhino
Tactical Squad [Meltagun Combi-Melta]
Drop Pod
Tactical Squad [Meltagun Combi-Melta]
Drop Pod
Tactical Squad [Meltagun Combi-Melta]
Drop Pod

+ Auxillary (55pts) +

10th Company Support (55pts)
Scout Squad [4x Boltguns, 4x Scouts]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (235pts) ++
Chapter Tactics * [White Scars]

+ HQ (125pts) +

Kor'sarro Khan (125pts)

+ Troops (110pts) +

Scout Squad (55pts) [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]
Scout Squad (55pts) [4x Boltgun, 4x Scouts]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (305pts)
+ Formation (305pts) +

'Librarius Conclave * (305pts)
Librarian [Mastery Level 2]
Librarian [Mastery Level 1]
Librarian [Mastery Level 1]
The Hunter's Eye]
Librarian [Mastery Level 1]

both of those lions blades need assault marines otherwise they arent lions blades, so you sorta have your numbers all messed up. so aftyer that cuts into your k sarro formation and your librarius conclave i recommend going back to the drawing board

 ionusx wrote:
both of those lions blades need assault marines otherwise they arent lions blades, so you sorta have your numbers all messed up. so aftyer that cuts into your k sarro formation and your librarius conclave i recommend going back to the drawing board

They both have assault marines in them. First line under the where it says 'battle demi company' there's a line that say Assault Squad 2xFlamer. Those are the assault marines.

okay well i misread im sorry

at any rate i think the list is alright in some places but largely its really meh, your basically just stuffing a whole bunch of extra magic and a couple of scouts into a lions blade double company in an effeort to somehow compensate for the fact that your ranged shooting is really range limited, your basically driving up to someone with everything and every gun that isnt a single lascannon has to drive up at the enemy, you have some random dudes in pods to help offset this but i wouldnt view them as a threat because there are so few of them to worry about.

a smart player will ignore your pods, blast your rhinos to pieces leaving nothing behind, your grav cannons spend the rest of the game walking up a table and your melta marines die the death of any marine that drop pods in.

you could take the hit on the lack of free transports, run a CAD and like a skyhammer orbital strikeforce be ravemguard and you could have just as effective as an army trading your one dimensional shooting and not have any need for the white scars detachment at all

It doesn't work, Khan's special rule only works on units with the white scars chapter tactics and not all transports in the army.

"Master of the Hunt: If Kor’sarro Khan is your Warlord, friendly White Scars models
that have the Bike unit type, or are embarked on a Rhino or Razorback, have the Scouts
special rule."

Minimanj wrote:
It doesn't work, Khan's special rule only works on units with the white scars chapter tactics and not all transports in the army.

"Master of the Hunt: If Kor’sarro Khan is your Warlord, friendly White Scars models
that have the Bike unit type, or are embarked on a Rhino or Razorback, have the Scouts
special rule."

So you put the independent characters into rhinos. They are embarked on rhinos. They get scout. They confer scout to the unit to which they are attached. The unit confers it to the transport. They don't lost the chapter tactic because Dark Angels don't negate CTs like other vanilla marines do. And to the other poster, Yeah it's not super competitive. Infact I would argue that it's just dumbing down a normal White Scars gladius, but gosh wouldn't it be funny to go up against someone and have a Lion's blade scout forward like they forgot what army they were. The look on your opponents face and the subsequent rule argument would be worth ticking the loss column.

Why does the last tactical squad in the first Demi company have 4 combi melted? Pretty sure you can only have 2 total since its 1 special weapon and 1 heavy weapon per 10 man squad and than 1 for the Sgt. Also your a dark angel player taking white scar bikers? The heck ! I bring my Ravenwing to the fight if I need biker support!

Wow, Does Khan's rule really say "models"? This is a neat gimmick. Has it been denied by any tournaments yet?