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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 22:26:39
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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morning/afternoon/evening guys,
so my local store championship is coming up soon and I'm in need of some ideas on how to break the local meta which is rebel Y & B wings. I'm an imperialist at heart so hit me with your best ideas please. my original thoughts was a trio of interceptors with Fel at the lead. they're fast nimble but the downside is lack of hull.
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 22:39:07
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Gun Mage
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I'm a big fan of Omega Leader with Juke and Comm Relay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 22:52:02
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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I was also thinking a whisper, gunner, adv cloak, fire control set up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 23:34:19
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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You won't need Gunner if you're shooting at B-wings and Y-wings. They have low agility and you have four attack dice; it's nearly impossible to miss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 23:48:46
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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I hadn't thought about that ScootyPuff. though I probably would leave it on there for the times when there aren't any B/Y wings
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 23:52:39
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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I'm a fan of Rebel Captive or Tactician on Phantoms, either way that stress token really twists the knife.
Gunner is an awful big investment for the least likely ship in the game to miss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 00:04:41
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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maybe I should just go back to having either of those two suggestions
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 00:22:44
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Leader of the Sept
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I'm quite fond of weapons engineer on a FCS phantom. It gives options for maneuvering, makes it harder for your opponent to hide the locked target and helps set up the next attack if you actually kill the target.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 02:37:37
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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OMG I hadn't even thought about that....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 04:55:41
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Flinty, I am going to be giving that a try. It looks like a whole lot of fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 09:33:14
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Battleship Captain
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If facing B-wings and Y-wings, you can't go far wrong with basic TIE fighters. They haven't the speed to arc dodge your swarm, and if you've only got 1 agility, throwing many two-dice attacks is better than throwing fewer three dice attacks
A TIE swarm of 5 Black Squadron Pilots with Crack Shot and Howlrunner can realistically blow a generic B-wing or Y-wing to pieces before it even fires once....and few squads can recover from that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 11:16:53
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Executing Exarch
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locarno24 wrote:If facing B-wings and Y-wings, you can't go far wrong with basic TIE fighters. They haven't the speed to arc dodge your swarm, and if you've only got 1 agility, throwing many two-dice attacks is better than throwing fewer three dice attacks
A TIE swarm of 5 Black Squadron Pilots with Crack Shot and Howlrunner can realistically blow a generic B-wing or Y-wing to pieces before it even fires once....and few squads can recover from that.
Pretty much this, and try to focus fire on one ship at a time, the early loss of 1 ship in B or Y lists makes it quite the uphill battle for them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 12:54:50
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I know this is probably a bad idea for most of you here, but I personally enjoy running Rexlar Brath with Outmaneuver. Either him, or Colonel Vessery with either a TIE Punisher (Redline) or a TIE Advanced (Darth Vader w/ ATC)
The TIE Punisher blows them to bits with Cluster missiles, re-acquiring target locks with FCS to reroll all of the attacks, and those Target Locks would then help out Colonel Vessery.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 13:11:17
Subject: Re:need some help combating Y & B wings
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I'll second the cluster missiles. Two volleys of three attack dice against targets with only 1 agility is going to hurt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 13:51:08
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Wampa and Palp
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 14:21:00
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Battleship Captain
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Wampa is nice against B-wings - because he bypasses their bulky shields - but kind of irrelevant against a Y-wing. By the time you've chewed through 5 hull one hit at a time, concentrated fire from a squad could have killed the bloody thing anyway.
Cluster missiles are a very good way to take out not-very-agile targets and a good call. TIE advanced with cluster missiles and accuracy correctors can chew through Y-wings and B-wings very easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 14:44:06
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Regular Dakkanaut
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4 TIE Adv +Title+Accuracy Corrector+Cluster missile+Chimps.
The minimum hits your dealing is 16 (AC 2 hits per missile attack). With Chimps your likely to get more. Pretty decent odds that you will kill 2 Bs or Ys in your opening salvo.
Then, assuming your squad survives the counter fire, your pushing 8 guaranteed hits per turn (all you ever need to do is take the evade action; with AC you don't need to focus or T/L once your missile salvo is fired)...perhaps another B or Y dead. How good is his single dice roll vs whatever hit+crit roll you can get?
For even more missile fun you can do almost the same thing with TAPs. You lose Accuracy, but gain a 5th ship/missile. That would be 30 red dice on your opening salvo.
(EDIT) And those 16 guaranteed hits on the first salvo....yep, that kills any large ship in the game except IGs (whose 3 green dice can be a bear to chew through). Decimator? Gone. Palpmobile? No chance. Falcon? Off to Kessel. Ghost? Turns into one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 22:30:05
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Missionary On A Mission
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KellyJ wrote:4 TIE Adv +Title+Accuracy Corrector+Cluster missile+Chimps.
The minimum hits your dealing is 16 ( AC 2 hits per missile attack). With Chimps your likely to get more. Pretty decent odds that you will kill 2 Bs or Ys in your opening salvo.
Then, assuming your squad survives the counter fire, your pushing 8 guaranteed hits per turn (all you ever need to do is take the evade action; with AC you don't need to focus or T/L once your missile salvo is fired)...perhaps another B or Y dead. How good is his single dice roll vs whatever hit+crit roll you can get?
For even more missile fun you can do almost the same thing with TAPs. You lose Accuracy, but gain a 5th ship/missile. That would be 30 red dice on your opening salvo.
(EDIT) And those 16 guaranteed hits on the first salvo....yep, that kills any large ship in the game except IGs (whose 3 green dice can be a bear to chew through). Decimator? Gone. Palpmobile? No chance. Falcon? Off to Kessel. Ghost? Turns into one.
damn shame that I don't have that many Advances...
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Lothlorien: 3500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/23 23:04:56
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Gun Mage
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I have to agree that TIEs, either original or FO, with Crack Shot are a very solid option. You do have to go with at least the 4 skill pilots to get the slot, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 00:54:34
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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That's fine. It means you shoot first too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/29 17:01:29
Subject: need some help combating Y & B wings
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I've had good results flying Omega Squadron (Leader w/ Juke, Comm Relay, Ace w/ PtL, and 3x Omega squadron pilots) against B and Y wings. OL and OA can guarantee at least 1 damage per turn with their shenanigans (OL turning down an evade, OA changing all of his dice to crits), and the 3 Omega pilots are there to finish the job.
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