Blood Bowl News & Rumors: Gnome Team pg 167

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**Dysartes**

Baxx wrote:
Here is the future of the season: Helves, chorfs, khemri, amazons, vamps, norse. Rumbelow Sheepskin, Frank N. Stein, Wilhelm. A couple of FAQs. Possibly copying over some more stars from BB2016. Perhaps some cheerleaders and booster packs from FW. Anything else? Oh yeah, dice, cards, pitches, spike (wizards, inducements, special balls, stars++).

[Citation required]

Well, aside from the FAQs, at some stage.

**Baxx**

Don't really need any citation for that if you've seen all releases the past 3 years, it's exactly according to this formula. Plastic team. Spike. Pitch. Dice. Cards. BB2020 teams continue in the same way.

**Mr_Rose**

I think maybe Dysartes was querying how you came by that exact order for the teams?

Also don’t discount completely new teams showing up out of nowhere; if a GW sculptor gets it into their head to make, say, a Fishmen team, then it has a high chance of getting official stats.

**Carlovonsexron**

Well, the Amazon team is referenced on a Zoat card that (I think) came in a spike a few years back, before there was even a model for the zoat. (Has it been released yet? Is it/will it be plastic?)

**Ghaz**

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Well, the Amazon team is referenced on a Zoat card that (I think) came in a spike a few years back, before there was even a model for the zoat. (Has it been released yet? Is it/will it be plastic?)

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Blood-Bowl-Zolcath-The-Zoat-2020

**Carlovonsexron**

Such a pity he didn't end up in plastic :/

**Baxx**

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Well, the Amazon team is referenced on a Zoat card that (I think) came in a spike a few years back, before there was even a model for the zoat. (Has it been released yet? Is it/will it be plastic?)

Amazon has been continuously available to play for decade(s)? Nothing has changed. The team was also referenced long before Zoat, in one of the Death Zone books from mid 2017 with all the inducements and numerous star players (karla, roxanna, helmut, kari coldsteel, Willow ++).

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Carlovonsexron wrote:
Such a pity he didn't end up in plastic :/

Hardly any stars or anything else ends up in plastic. Only core team boxes, griff v2, varag v2, troll, ogre & treeman.

Mr_Rose wrote:

Also don’t discount completely new teams showing up out of nowhere; if a GW sculptor gets it into their head to make, say, a Fishmen team, then it has a high chance of getting official stats.

Yeah, that could happen as it did for Blorcs and Imperial Nobility.

**Carlovonsexron**

IDK, it seems like a choice modern GW would make, to only include the name of a team for a model release if the team mentioned will eventually be (re)released. Otherwise they are just propping up 3rd party model sales. But that that's just my perhaps overly cynacle view.

But as for the zoat, it doesn't really matter to me about the number of figures released as resin versus those released as plastic, I still think its a pity it didn't make it to plastic.

**Baxx**

That's probably what GW would like to do, but BB has a very strong community that will always keep the 'official' teams, even if GW dropped them. Anything that was dropped in 2016 edition could be imported as-is, because the rules and costs didn't change (with a couple of exceptions). Still, GW decided to have all the original teams not released in plastic as 'teams of legend', fully playable and official, but without minis from GW. This is what they continued to do in 2020 edition, except the list is now reduced to 6 for 'teams of legend'.

GW was firm about dropping Slann a long time ago, yet NAF will never drop Slann and as such you can use updated official NAF rules for Slann in 2020 edition if you so like. Same would be the case if GW decided to drop any other teams. So far, every 'new' team released has been from the 'teams of legend' list. Again, with a couple of exceptions (Blorcs & Imperial Nobility). Every time a new team is released, the teams of legend list is reduced by 1. So it is safe to say we will see several of the following teams this year: Chorfs, Helves, Amazons, Khemri, Vamps & Norse.

**Carlovonsexron**

That's good! I look forward to being disappointed by the design of the Amazon team, and finding the Norse team useful for chaos marauder conversions!

**Dysartes**

Looks like Death Zone is returning...

**Mr_Rose**

Not a surprise that the first supplement is Death Zone, slight surprise at the quality of the proposed content. Looks like someone in the studio got seriously invested in the game again and that’s great!

**Sabotage!**

Getting an official printing of the Sevens rules is great! Looking forward to the new Death Zone.

**Baxx**

All of the teased content seems like reprints from what already exists. "Trait package" looks like an approximate diff between a standard ogre and a mix of rat ogre, krox & yeti. "Bubbling Up From Below" and "Freezing" we got already.

**JWBS**

Would've liked to see an updated Minotaur vs Wardancer as the cover art. Still, good news.

**Dysartes**

Anyone know what's going on with the Dark Elf team? They're showing as "Sold Out Online," and the Forge World bundle is "No longer available online".

**Kanluwen**

They did say that they were going to be repackaging the original teams to include Blitz Bowl cards or something like that last year.

**Dysartes**

Kanluwen wrote:
They did say that they were going to be repackaging the original teams to include Blitz Bowl cards or something like that last year.

Interesting, I must've missed that - odd that they're the only team that seems to be affected, though.

**Kanluwen**

It was when they revealed Akhorne apparently. I thought I'd posted about it in this thread at least once, and the announcement was September 8th-ish of last year.

I would guess it's being a slow roll-out rather than bumping them all at once.

Correction as well: apparently it's that you get a Roster Sheet in the box now too.

**Mr_Rose**

You also get the new logo and blue&red trim. It’s standard repack practise at this point. I expect they’re just rolling it out as the old box stock sells through.

**Baxx**

News: A random team (half lings) get an overhaul for the new edition, updated cards, pitch and dice. Based on the other re-released pitch, I am guessing it is 99% similar to the previous, with 1 or 2 random details changed.

**Thargrim**

I think the dugouts are smaller this time around. Good to see updated stuff for each team. I personally want updated chaos dice/cards but I might have to wait a while.

**Mr_Rose**

Baxx wrote:
News: A random team (half lings) get an overhaul for the new edition, updated cards, pitch and dice. Based on the other re-released pitch, I am guessing it is 99% similar to the previous, with 1 or 2 random details changed.

The dugouts are the new “actually useable” size they just invented and now actually fit in the box properly. The pitch itself will be identical.

If I were you, I’d try not to get very worked up about these. Every team released under the previous edition is going to get one¹ and it’s a nice chance for those that missed out on dice/pitch last time to get them as they are sadly still not evergreen products. Everyone else can cheerfully ignore them.

¹ probably as stock on the old style team boxes runs low, to coincide with a rerelease.

**Dysartes**

Death Zone on pre-order next week - along with the teams from the starter set, and various other bits.

**zamerion**

miniatures for all this stuff would be interesting

**Mr_Rose**

Well… most of the balls do technically have minis… and I think you can still get the Halfling hotpot… and giants are obviously still sold… same for Firebellies… the named individuals though seem likely to get (resin) minis at some point.

Anyway the whole thing makes me grin. Definitely getting the book.

**Baxx**

Already got the book, about 3 years ago. What a wonderful way to sell us the same stuff over and over again. All the special balls, all the (in)famous coaching staff, all the wizards, all the stadiums, all the residency, rostered star players and the giant. We've been here before, about 5 months ago. Looks like this book has about 10 pages of actual new content... Here is what's new:
- Ayleen Andar
- Mungo Spinecracker
- Schielund Scharlitan
- Asur High Mage
- Medical Unguent
- Side Bet
- Fabolous Freebooters
- Giants (if there are more than 1)
- Sevens

And maybe we finally get the 4th skaven match event

**jullevi**

I must admit that clampack Griff Oberwald and Varag Choulchewer at £12 each is much cheaper than I expected. Why can't we have this price range in AoS or 40k?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

That’s a bloody good point on the prices.

**Baxx**

The new Freebooter Mercenary rules are confusing. For example if you want to create a stunty player, you can give it additional skills:
- A single additional Agility skill for +10k gold pieces.
- Two or more additional Agility skills for +20k gold pieces each.

So if you take 1 skill, it's obviously +10k. But if you take 2 skills? 3? 4? If each option can only be taken once, that would mean that if you buy 2 of this skill, you must pay the highest cost for both (2x20k). If you buy 1 or 3+ skills, you can pay minimum cost for one of them?

Same with stats, for example Ringer (Runner/Thrower):

Can improve or reduce any characteristic by up to 2, as follows:
- Improve AG by 1 for +50k gold pieces.
- Improve AG by 2 for +100k gold pieces (Elven only)

So it seems to be implied that each option can only be taken once, otherwise everyone could buy 2x +1 AG for 2x50k, same as Elven teams. But the Ringer already got AG 2+, and can't be improved to more than 1+!

The book also refers to Really Stupid (4+), but there's no such thing. It's only "Really Stupid", and the roll is 2+ or 4+ depending on any adjacent friendly player with Tackle Zone or not.