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hat-tip to the ever reliable Mr Archibald_tk from 'seer :

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?417478-Imperial-Knights-Renegade

No Orruks in the next WD.

New boxed game called "Imperial Knight: Renegade" instead (1 Imperial Knight, 1 IK Warden and 1 Sanctum Imperialis + rules)
165€ / £120 / $195 / and for once the real prices for all to see: CA$ 235 / AU$ 245 / NZ$ 290 / 22.000 Yen

So both a huge price but a huge discount at the same time, making it a pretty solid choice if you want 2 Knights. Too bad the large difference between the UK and Euro price will make us incapable of competing vs UK retailers.

Game is derived from the minigame they did in the WD around the Stormsurge release if I remember correctly, the one were each superheavy had its own datasheet, with damage locations and numbers everywhere. Game includes specific decals for each knight allowing you to decorate one of them as a renegade Knight. No Chaos specific sprues thought (those are the regular models already sold in stores).

Isn't this a fairly ridiculous saving?

As far as I can see an Imperial Knight Warden on it's own is £95, so for an extra £25 I'm getting another Knight Model (though can't work out which one?) and a piece of terrain that normally retails for £20.00.

I've been toying with getting a Knight for a while, this may be my tipping point.

And it looks to be available through retailers. Less than a ton for two knights and shrine. Maybe it's time to buy me my first knight(s)!

Heck if this is true I'd go halves on a boxed set with someone from my club just to get a Warden (which I love the look of) and I don't even play 40K!

Jeezus.

Yeah that's a bloody good saving.

Great offer, wow

The free datasheets available at the Black Library WD download archive were removed by the way. The mini-game featured hit zone datasheets like we had in late 1st Edition (compiled in the Vehicle Manual). Maybe they will add Tau, Eldar and Ork datasheets to the game via White Dwarf.

I'm curious how this turns out, looks like some funny 'Mech vs Mech' battles lie ahead

Sold! The warden is awesome, and that discount is awesome, that's 2 awesomes!

Maybe my ancient Epic hit location dice will make a long due return to the table?

More discounted bundles is always good. If you are gaming on a budget, the take away is never buy anything new because it will probably be bundled eventually. I am looking forward to the Archaon bundle with an army thrown in.

No rules to use them in chaos space marine army? :(

I can see the Warden on the GW site, what's the other one going to be? The £85.00 one would be the "standard" I'd guess?

 foostick wrote:
I can see the Warden on the GW site, what's the other one going to be? The £85.00 one would be the "standard" I'd guess?

Yep, a good way to get rid of stock I think, I doubt anyone is buying those anymore.

zamerion wrote:
No rules to use them in chaos space marine army? :(

Chaos can use knight paladins and errants using the rules avaible from the Forge World website. No warden, gallant or crusader I'm afraid.

zamerion wrote:
No rules to use them in chaos space marine army? :(

Ahem

Ok, but why?

Damn it, I wanted a Knight for a long time. I don't really need one at the moment and I vowed to purchase less stuff... but that's 132€ at 20% discount. Split with another player and you have a Knight for 66€ and some terrain for the club.

That is really tempting.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

To get us to open our wallets? Clear out an overstock? Boost end of year finances?

The cynic in me says that AoS isn't performing as well as they need it to...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

After the initial excitement of the Knights, it's seemed to me like FW has been the one getting all the sales. Anecdotally, I've seen very few of either the Knight-Warden or Knight kits moving locally since the FW Knights debuted on the scene.

Plus it's probably easier to sell someone on the idea of a 'normal' Knight when it comes bundled with a Warden allowing you to do carapace weapons for both.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

My guess is that Kirby's insistence on not cutting prices is making things difficult for the new guy, so they are finding ways of makings things cheaper without actually cutting prices. Discount bundles has very much been the theme of 2016 so far. I hope it continues. The only downside is that they seem to have a fixed discount limit of 40%. Nothing has had a bigger discount than that yet.
On a related note, for a self proclaimed miniatures company, there have been an awful lot of new rules coming out of GW lately.

Yeah I probably wouldn't have dropped £85-95 on one of the Knight models. They've got me with this deal and I'll definitely partake. Though if I can get it cheaper via an online retailer I'll likely take advantage of that to save more money.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

They probably called back all of the old knight boxes and are reboxing them. Still $195 USD for two knights is a Damn good deal. I would make a Crusader and a Warden.

Chikout wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

My guess is that Kirby's insistence on not cutting prices is making things difficult for the new guy, so they are finding ways of makings things cheaper without actually cutting prices. Discount bundles has very much been the theme of 2016 so far. I hope it continues. The only downside is that they seem to have a fixed discount limit of 40%. Nothing has had a bigger discount than that yet.
On a related note, for a self proclaimed miniatures company, there have been an awful lot of new rules coming out of GW lately.

The Seraphon bundle would like a word about the "discount limit".

Buy a Carnosaur, get a unit of Saurus Knights and 12 Saurus Warriors free!


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok, but why?

They probably called back all of the old knight boxes and are reboxing them. Still $195 USD for two knights is a Damn good deal. I would make a Crusader and a Warden.

They would have done that ages ago. The Knights are here until the stock finally runs down.

You know what would get me to buy a knight better than two knights for $195? One knight for $95. They need to get over the whole aversion to lowering prices.

But still, a deal is a deal.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
You know what would get me to buy a knight better than two knights for $195? One knight for $95. They need to get over the whole aversion to lowering prices.

But still, a deal is a deal.

I could see the Knight Warden going down to $140, but there's no way in hell they'd drop it from $157 to $95.

Maybe my ancient Epic hit location dice will make a long due return to the table?

Depends. If they copy Godbreaker Clash, then no; whilst there's up/left, down/right rolls, they vary with what action you're doing - so a 'standard' attack hits on a 3-4, an 'aimed' attack on a 2-5 and a 'snap attack' always scatters.

I would love them to do datasheets for the Wraithknight, Gorkanaut and Lord Of Skulls to go with it - it's actually a really, really fun little game. It even self-balances - you can take or not take a carapace weapon, for example, because not taking one costs you a weapon system but makes you a smaller target.

Will definitely consider getting this. Hell, the fact that it's a full Imperial Knight army for a couple of hundred quid is awesome.

Using the 'boxed games' as a way to do discounts without doing discounts is fair enough if they're not being allowed to do flat out 'price drops'.

It reminds me of discussions I had with some people from forge world at games day, when they were still verboten from doing 'horus heresy' stuff, so they started doing the Badab War series instead, featuring chapters who fielded many old marks of armour (I'm looking at you, minotaurs and red scorpions) and often had shoulder icons which looked suspiciously like first founding legions in a different colour (and that's you, sons of medusa).

The 'start collecting' boxes are cool, too. I get that GW has to be profitable, but at the same time, if I can buy a box for a price not dissimilar to a 1st tier computer game, and have enough of an army to make me want to get the rest, GW wins. Staring up a 2,000 point 'hill' from the bottom with no cheap way into it means I don't start the army at all.

This is a bolt out of the blue. I was thinking of getting a knight, and this will pretty much tip me over.

 General Kroll wrote:
This is a bolt out of the blue. I was thinking of getting a knight, and this will pretty much tip me over.

I was as well. Now I think I am getting two!

Not sure if I need anymore knights so I'm hoping they post the rules online as with other recent releases.

The game was called "Godbreaker Clash" and was in White Dwarf 89, it was a fun enough game for a Knight vs a Stormsurge.

This does seem like a great bundle, but I think for both Knights the Sanctum Imperialis does not offer a lot in the way of cover.