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coldgaming wrote:
I enjoyed the ad.

Agree with sentiment in this thread. Few people like to hang around negative nancies/overly sarcastic/constantly critical people in real life. They have more of a home on the internet. They like to think of it as this grand debate, but in real life, those people are just annoying and not fun to be around.

That's a general statement though.

It's a good job that most people have differing opinions on different things then eh?

Very few are unilaterally positive or negative about everything all the time, it's what contributes to making them fully fledged, rounded personalities and what facilitates discussions.

People who are relentlessly positive all the time are just as wearing IRL as they are online, just as those the are unrelentingly negative.

Of course, were people to label other characters with a broad brush rather than take the time to appreciate the nuances, then one may come to the conclusion they were "negative nancies." It's just that in many cases that conclusion would be incorrect.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Dr. Delorean wrote:
So well done, H.B.M.C - you've gotten one step closer in achieving your dream of turning DakkaDakka into a hate-filled dystopic wasteland where no one has fun and everything sucks. I salute your incessant ability to see the negative side of literally anything that ever happens.

Talk about overreacting.
The damned thing's over AUD$250 and is smaller/holds less than equivalent cases from a few years ago.

It's clearly a rebadged camera case, and as has been mentioned, those things are not bloody cheap. - edit - it's a rebadged Duratool waterproof tool box with GW foam inside.

Or for just under 50.- euros http://nl.farnell.com/unbranded/waterproof-case-24/waterproof-case-610x430x310mm/dp/2500552?MER=i-9b10-00002068

Actually it looks like it is a repackage of this exact one:
http://www.newark.com/duratool/22-24115/waterproof-case-pp-black/dp/76X0326?CMP=KNC-GUSA-GEN-SHOPPING-NEW-DURATOOL&ad=81605889141

$100US for some GW foam....

 silent25 wrote:
Actually it looks like it is a repackage of this exact one:
http://www.newark.com/duratool/22-24115/waterproof-case-pp-black/dp/76X0326?CMP=KNC-GUSA-GEN-SHOPPING-NEW-DURATOOL&ad=81605889141

$100US for some GW foam....

So, just like all of GW's tools: slap a GW logo on it, double the price, collect easy money from people who don't know about all of the non-GW options.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
There is no reason for the automatic response to anything to be focusing on the negative to the point of cynicism and "witty" mockery.

I don't have a use for this personally but given how I see some people treat their models/cases it's a good idea.

Except in this case the cynicism and mockery is entirely justified. This is just another case (no pun intended) of GW taking a product manufactured by someone else, sticking a GW logo on it, and adding a ridiculous markup. There is absolutely no reason to even consider buying the GW case unless you really hate having money. So yes, when GW tries to sell a terrible product with a bunch of "cool" music and a guy hitting it with a sword I think it's fair to mock them them for it.

I got a fething Battlefoam 1520XL for what they're asking in Australia. Granted it's not sword proof, but considering the amount of sword weilding psycopaths I run across I think I can safely assume that protection isn't needed.

We should make this the 'HBMC vs Overly Pleasant People' thread.

I would consider getting one of these if I was going to ever actually go to LVO... Otherwise, I do all of my tournaments in Vancouver.

 Peregrine wrote:
Except in this case the cynicism and mockery is entirely justified. This is just another case (no pun intended) of GW taking a product manufactured by someone else, sticking a GW logo on it, and adding a ridiculous markup. There is absolutely no reason to even consider buying the GW case unless you really hate having money. So yes, when GW tries to sell a terrible product with a bunch of "cool" music and a guy hitting it with a sword I think it's fair to mock them them for it.

Criticism is entirely justified. Constant cynicism and mockery, especially by the same posters, is just grating. The first is helpful to inform others, while the latter just comes across as an ego boost or show of pride to put down others (in this case GW).

True, it's the internet, but tone matters. And the point on nuance is valid. The ignore feature would make life more pleasant here, but at the cost of losing out on a number of informational and interesting posts by the same people.

Pretty sure its a Pelican case. And those are not cheap. Ah so its a $33 case with some foam and a $100 GW logo. Good ad for once though.

Are there other manufacturers who do the zig-zag foam that GW’s putting out these days? While you might be able to get this case with pluck foam, if you really like their new system, there aren’t a lot of options. I recall when they came out with their new cases they were pricy, but not over the top compared to the other major case manufactures.

I will agree that the GW markup for putting their name on things is a little much. But with the exception of the glue, which I’ve never heard much good about, generally the quality of their tools is solid. Overpriced, but acceptable.

That's pretty bad, sticking some foam in an off the shelf case and tripling the price - but the zig-zag foam *is* pretty great. Third parties definitely need to start supplying that same foam.

One wonders how much custom cut Battlefoam the price difference would buy though?

Yeah...if I need that durable a case, I'll just buy a Pelican case, thanks.

Readily available Aussie alternatives (which come filled with fluck foam!)
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/ToolPro-Safe-Case-560-x-430-x-215mm.aspx?pid=326046

http://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-515-x-435-x-225mm-large-safe-case_p5810184

Pluck foam is good for big stuff, not for infantry though.

GW's zig zag foam does seem like a good idea to me, hopefully someone else starts manufacturing it and sells it cheaply.

GW trying to sell it for $135US is laughable. Trying to sell it for $265AUD is worthy of mockery. Any Australian who buys this should be ashamed, an act which should require shredding of your citizenship.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Trying to sell it for $265AUD is worthy of mockery. Any Australian who buys this should be ashamed, an act which should require shredding of your citizenship.

I'm going to assume that for the price, the case is Drop Bear proof as well.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Trying to sell it for $265AUD is worthy of mockery. Any Australian who buys this should be ashamed, an act which should require shredding of your citizenship.

I'm going to assume that for the price, the case is Drop Bear proof as well.

Everyone knows there's no such thing as Drop Bear proof. It's just not possible. You need your pet Dingo to keep an eye out for the Drop Bears and then just avoid them as you're riding your Kangaroo to the local gaming store.

Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.
I must admit the cost initially made me check up, but I am a fan of the zig-zag foam. The old GW foam options were limiting. Zig-zag is very adaptable, no plucking and a marked improvement over the old case options, IMHO. Seems like it has decent capacity as well, so I'll take a flyer...and I wanted the SM model.
To my fellow Dakka-ites down under, I feel the pain. You guys have always seemed to get the shaft on GW pricing.

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.
I must admit the cost initially made me check up, but I am a fan of the zig-zag foam. The old GW foam options were limiting. Zig-zag is very adaptable, no plucking and a marked improvement over the old case options, IMHO. Seems like it has decent capacity as well, so I'll take a flyer...and I wanted the SM model.
To my fellow Dakka-ites down under, I feel the pain. You guys have always seemed to get the shaft on GW pricing.

Even at USA pricing you're paying $100 for foam, seeing as you can get the case itself for around $35.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why you'd buy this case at all. Maybe if you frequently fly with your army? The Battle Case and Crusader Case seem to be much better deals and still look tough enough to survive dropping them down the stairs. Maybe not tough enough to hit them with a sledge hammer, so, err, don't hit them with a sledge hammer.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.
I must admit the cost initially made me check up, but I am a fan of the zig-zag foam. The old GW foam options were limiting. Zig-zag is very adaptable, no plucking and a marked improvement over the old case options, IMHO. Seems like it has decent capacity as well, so I'll take a flyer...and I wanted the SM model.
To my fellow Dakka-ites down under, I feel the pain. You guys have always seemed to get the shaft on GW pricing.

Even at USA pricing you're paying $100 for foam, seeing as you can get the case itself for around $35.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why you'd buy this case at all. Maybe if you frequently fly with your army? The Battle Case and Crusader Case seem to be much better deals and still look tough enough to survive dropping them down the stairs. Maybe not tough enough to hit them with a sledge hammer, so, err, don't hit them with a sledge hammer.

And the crusaders are prefect carry on size (and if I am taking a army on a airplane I don't want it out of my sight) and can hold more

That was a very good commercial.

But they should have run it over with the life-sized rhino they built a few years back.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Except in this case the cynicism and mockery is entirely justified. This is just another case (no pun intended) of GW taking a product manufactured by someone else, sticking a GW logo on it, and adding a ridiculous markup. There is absolutely no reason to even consider buying the GW case unless you really hate having money. So yes, when GW tries to sell a terrible product with a bunch of "cool" music and a guy hitting it with a sword I think it's fair to mock them them for it.

Criticism is entirely justified. Constant cynicism and mockery, especially by the same posters, is just grating. The first is helpful to inform others, while the latter just comes across as an ego boost or show of pride to put down others (in this case GW).

True, it's the internet, but tone matters. And the point on nuance is valid. The ignore feature would make life more pleasant here, but at the cost of losing out on a number of informational and interesting posts by the same people.

Thou shall not mockery the shrubbery i mean GW!

Especially when they make logic comments!

If this offends you, you must have a huge pink filter on the internet.

KidKyoto wrote:But they should have run it over with the life-sized rhino they built a few years back.

Pretty sure that'd destroy it.

The case. Not the Rhino.

 Crazyterran wrote:
We should make this the 'HBMC vs Overly Pleasant People' thread.

How about the "HBMC vs the people who clearly give too much of a feth what HBMC thinks about a miniature case".

Yikes...

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.

What the feth? You had to spend $165 to be allowed to buy the fething marine?

Herzlos wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.

What the feth? You had to spend $165 to be allowed to buy the fething marine?

No, you get it for free.

Herzlos wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.

What the feth? You had to spend $165 to be allowed to buy the fething marine?

I think that's how much you needed to spend to get it "free". You could have just bought it for $30 by itself instead.

Given the cost of buying stuff direct from GW, I wouldn't consider it "free" though, you're still paying more than if you'd just bought the Marine for $30 and then bought the other stuff from a discounter.

$165+ in the US was required to get the Marine for free in addition to the purchase.

They could still buy the Marine separately.

EDIT:

I think this is pretty great. I will gladly invest in one if it looks like one that survives my trips (i often travel about 150 kilometers to play games) in a car fully loaded with heavy loudspeakers and other audio equipment.

It's nice to see someone found out the original product (or similar), though it should not come as any surprise. That's how most supplementary products work. Besides, if you find the case with the GW foam inserts, do tell since they also probably exist somewhere. Always good to know there is a budged version available.

I still think the case justifies its price, especially for those of us who just want the functioning deal right off the bat. Budged alternatives for flight cases and other shock proof cases exist everywhere anyway. I always see the carry cases as an investment (quite like varnish), and find it rather weird that people go around happily carrying 500€ or more worth of miniatures that took tens of hours to paint in cookie jars with paper towels.

As for the discussion here. People remember that there is a world of difference between stating an legitimate opinion (whether nice or not) and going around saying others should not talk. The latter is rude and holds no place in civil discussion.

Trasvi wrote:
Readily available Aussie alternatives (which come filled with fluck foam!)
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/ToolPro-Safe-Case-560-x-430-x-215mm.aspx?pid=326046

http://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-515-x-435-x-225mm-large-safe-case_p5810184

Both of those are the same rebranded (yet again) case. I've looked at them in Bunnings in the past. Honestly, the prices being asked for them locally feels like a ripoff as well.

this was all I could think about when I saw them run it over.

http://youtu.be/i6e4WpaXV7k