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Herzlos wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Pre-ordered one at the local GW store this weekend, along with a Tzeentch Herald on Disc in order to get a free 30th Anniversary Space Marine, $175. and I needed to spend $165. to get the SM.

What the feth? You had to spend $165 to be allowed to buy the fething marine?

You can buy it for $30 US, or spend $165 or something and get it for free.

 kronk wrote:


You can buy it for $30 US, or spend $165 or something and get it for free.

Ah, that's pretty good actually

That zig-zag foam looks like it would allow the models to smash into each other if any real drop occurred, let alone down stairs. Unless the case is made out of shock absorbing vibranium, it seems the case might survive, but the figures would be toast. Does that actually protect them?

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
That zig-zag foam looks like it would allow the models to smash into each other if any real drop occurred, let alone down stairs. Unless the case is made out of shock absorbing vibranium, it seems the case might survive, but the figures would be toast. Does that actually protect them?

I have the Crusade case and it's protecting minis pretty well, as the foam-layers is actually getting pressed together slightly when you close it. That gets the foam around the minis nice and snug.

I can imagine if you have heavy metal minis in it, you would want to space them out a bit, but I transport my WM/H metals in a Feldherr bag, so I can't attest to how well the zigzag foam works with many metal minis. In general I'm pretty happy with the zigzag foam though, as it makes everything so flexible.

coldgaming wrote:
I enjoyed the ad.

My experience was more along the lines of, "Arrgh! My ears!"

Laying down metal as your soundtrack is the first sign of a failed video. Yes, even if you're making a music video for a metal band.

 Azazelx wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
Readily available Aussie alternatives (which come filled with fluck foam!)
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/ToolPro-Safe-Case-560-x-430-x-215mm.aspx?pid=326046

http://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-515-x-435-x-225mm-large-safe-case_p5810184

Both of those are the same rebranded (yet again) case. I've looked at them in Bunnings in the past. Honestly, the prices being asked for them locally feels like a ripoff as well.

Actually I think those ones are bigger than the GW case. This one might be the same case, it appears to have the same external dimensions (within a few mm) as the unbranded one that looks identical to the GW case (has the same pattern ribbing on it)

http://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-465-x-360-x-175mm-safe-case_p5810252

But you still have to get foam that fits it snugly.

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
That zig-zag foam looks like it would allow the models to smash into each other if any real drop occurred, let alone down stairs. Unless the case is made out of shock absorbing vibranium, it seems the case might survive, but the figures would be toast. Does that actually protect them?

The zigzag foam is far better than the old cases with slots. The models don't flip around but have enough space around them to protect them from bending. On the plus side you can fit all kinds of different miniatures without needing to tear any of the foam out. In other words, pretty damn brilliant.

Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

PlaguePony wrote:
Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

we've ever put a sticker on!

PlaguePony wrote:
Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

Were you expecting GW to build a case factory? Rebranded generic products aren't a new thing. The price is steep but the practice is extremely common.

 Mymearan wrote:
Were you expecting GW to build a case factory? Rebranded generic products aren't a new thing. The price is steep but the practice is extremely common.

I don't know, GW does have a whole bunch of plastic manufacturing capacity. If they're going to brag about how "we made it" then it should actually be something they made, not just a rebranded product they put a $100 GW label on.

This is pretty cool, but I honestly would rather just get the Crusade Case or the Battle Figure Case. I don't see myself needing to worry about bats, swords, or vehicles ruining my vehicles. The case is water proof, which is nice. I don't really want to get a custom foam case since I tend to swap stuff out pretty often. If I can transport 2500 pts in a Crusade or Battle Figure Case, I will be just fine. Though I worry how well the case will be able to hold all my Drop Pods(3), Land Speeders(4-5), and tanks (3).

EDIT: I think I will go with the Battle Case and only transport some of my Miniatures at a time. Between four trays, I should be able to fit 52 infantry, 3 Drop Pods, 2 Land Speeder Storms, 3 Land Speeders, and 3 Vindicators, shouldn't I?

PlaguePony wrote:
Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

This is nothing new. And it's not just GW doing it. So this is again one of those things which it is absolutely pointless to give GW flack for. But yeah, everybody knows the hater train is cool to be aboard. How about you be a bit constructive instead and find us the zigzag foam so people can make a copy of this case for a cheaper prize. Because essentially, they did put the case together, even if just from parts. Again something that is quite common.

 Meos wrote:

PlaguePony wrote:
Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

This is nothing new. And it's not just GW doing it. So this is again one of those things which it is absolutely pointless to give GW flack for. But yeah, everybody knows the hater train is cool to be aboard. How about you be a bit constructive instead and find us the zigzag foam so people can make a copy of this case for a cheaper prize. Because essentially, they did put the case together, even if just from parts. Again something that is quite common.

Why is the white knighting so strong in this thread? It's a legit criticism that they're being a touch deceptive by saying THEY made it. You could have just let the comment slide, but instead you had to make a big deal about the haters attacking poor old GW. How about you look in the mirror before you start criticising others for not being constructive.

I would be interested to know if the foam in this case is the same dimensions as the ones in the other GW cases. It may end up being better value to buy a battle case and get the hard case from another source if you're desperate for a case you can run over with a car. Personally I'm still not entirely sure why you'd want this case in the first place. It may be tougher than the Crusader case but do you really need something tougher than the Crusader case?

 Meos wrote:
But yeah, everybody knows the hater train is cool to be aboard.

As cool as the white knight train?

Case looks cool, but as noted by several people, way too expensive for what I could buy without the GW sticker.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Meos wrote:

PlaguePony wrote:
Just noticed the tagline, oh you made the cases GW...really

This is nothing new. And it's not just GW doing it. So this is again one of those things which it is absolutely pointless to give GW flack for. But yeah, everybody knows the hater train is cool to be aboard. How about you be a bit constructive instead and find us the zigzag foam so people can make a copy of this case for a cheaper prize. Because essentially, they did put the case together, even if just from parts. Again something that is quite common.

Why is the white knighting so strong in this thread? It's a legit criticism that they're being a touch deceptive by saying THEY made it. You could have just let the comment slide, but instead you had to make a big deal about the haters attacking poor old GW. How about you look in the mirror before you start criticising others for not being constructive.

I would be interested to know if the foam in this case is the same dimensions as the ones in the other GW cases. It may end up being better value to buy a battle case and get the hard case from another source if you're desperate for a case you can run over with a car. Personally I'm still not entirely sure why you'd want this case in the first place. It may be tougher than the Crusader case but do you really need something tougher than the Crusader case?

GW don't make their paints, brushes, tools, etc either... those are all made by manufacturers specializing in those things and sold at a big markup by GW. The only thing they produce in-house is their miniatures. It's the same thing all companies do, and obviously they're all going to say "we made this" because it's their product, regardless of which parts of the product are theirs and which are off-the-shelf or rebranded generics. It's standard practice for any company that's being singled out as deceptive, which is a bit funny.

 Mymearan wrote:
Were you expecting GW to build a case factory? Rebranded generic products aren't a new thing. The price is steep but the practice is extremely common.

I dunno, maybe people were expecting them to make them the same way they made their previous cases, the ones with molded GW iconography? Why is that an outlandish idea all of a sudden?

 Mymearan wrote:
GW don't make their paints, brushes, tools, etc either...

And if they claimed they made those things, I'd laugh at them for it too. At least the paints and tools are made specifically for GW, not just bought off the shelf like this case. Dunno about their brushes.

It's standard practice for any company that's being singled out as deceptive, which is a bit funny.

Really? Maybe you can post some examples. I don't think it's all that common, at a guess I'd think you'll find it's probably more common to have "This is the toughest thing we've ever released", which would be closer to the truth. I know car companies often act like things were are totally local products, like for example out here you might see an ad for a car that would make you believe it entirely came out of Holden when actually it's just a rebadged Opel or Chevy... but at least that's all the same General Motors group and design teams tend to be quite global these days so I'm willing to give it a pass.

But yeah, feel free to post examples from other companies so I can laugh at them too! I'm already critical of Australian car manufacturer's if they talk about "Aussie V8's" when they're actually American engines.

I don't think it's as common as you think for companies to outright lie. Sure, they might not tell you the actual source, they might act like it's THEIR product, but to actually say "this is the toughest thing we've made" when they didn't actually make it, I think it's more common to hear something like "this is our toughest thing yet" or "this is the toughest thing we've ever released".

Next time I am in a battle, then get run over, then get thrown down the stairs, then drown, I will at least know that my minis -- my son's inheritance! -- will come through the ordeal intact.

Alternatively I could just take extra care not to annoy the Tsar.

Unless someone comes out with Channel foam like GW uses fairly quick, I am probably just going to get the Crusade case. I am not paying $100USD for just some foam. I really like the Channel Foam, so I am willing to pay for the Crusade case (though I bet I could get away with using the 'Ard Case for my 2500 pt army).

Battlefoam has good discounts around July 4th, just saying.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Meos wrote:
But yeah, everybody knows the hater train is cool to be aboard.

As cool as the white knight train?

Case looks cool, but as noted by several people, way too expensive for what I could buy without the GW sticker.

Being a realist is hardly being a white knight?

It's already apparent that it's a re-branded product. It should not come as a surprise. We even got direct link to the original one so people know what to look for. The difference however is in the foam on the inside. At leas I would love to know where to find it.

Repeating over and over again the fact that the case is a re-brand is beating a dead horse. We saw it, we understood it, now let's move and look at and discuss alternative cases and do proper price comparison instead of this bs clutter. I'm not a huge fan of GWs general policies regarding most things, but at the same time i consider pointless whining just a load of pointless whining if it doesn't bring something new to the table.

I'm sure it's been pointed out already, but there's a ridiculous amount of heavy duty gun cases out there for half the price if not cheaper, that are just as durable and waterproof ta'boot. Some come with egg carton foam, some come with pluck foam like the sabol army transport trays. A while back I got a $30 hard plastic rifle case that I got at k-mart with just egg carton foam that held a whole 3000 point army.

So if you want a better hard case and you're able to buy them where you live then I suggest looking into gun cases.. there's tons of great options out there. Heck just search for "gun case" on amazon.com and you'll get 53,963 results.

That's probably only in the US though, we don't have guns here... I sometimes buy camera cases, but they're really expensive and only have pluck foam.

@allzeeingskink I used to work in electronics assembly and it was rather common for us to build components and then put other companies logo on them for resale. There is nothing deceptive about subcontracting.

Did you then claim that you made the case? Hmmm?

*EDIT* And did you then add $100 to the price tag for putting your label on it?

The Auld Grump

*EDIT 2* I use pistol cases that I picked up at WalMart for $15 each. Three layers of zigzag foam, about 16" x 10" x 6"

Many audio technical companies sell very heavy duty cases too. Not the hi-fi companies but the ones who sell PA, instruments and tools for musicians, composers, DJs and light riggers.

The issue however is mostly the same as with gun, camera and other similar cases. They are not made with miniatures in mind so tend to waste quite a lot of space.

 Meos wrote:
Many audio technical companies sell very heavy duty cases too. Not the hi-fi companies but the ones who sell PA, instruments and tools for musicians, composers, DJs and light riggers.

The issue however is mostly the same as with gun, camera and other similar cases. They are not made with miniatures in mind so tend to waste quite a lot of space.

There are cheaper alternatives, and here in Japan, there are lots of good second hand stores where you can pick up cases, i bought a huge padded instrument case there.

The issue is not that GW puts a sticker on it, but claim that they made it and put a huge mark up on it.

If that puts me on the hate train so be it.

Thats not the issue.

The issue is whether you want to buy that case with that foam at that price.

If you want that foam then the GW one might be the one for you.

The rest is the usual hot air. Puzzling why these threads are as long as they are?

Surely it cannot be that difficult to obtain foam similar to GW's? What makes it so unique?