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AdMech and AS lacks fliers...
DA dont have access to SR
BA and GK have the SR only without a combat only flier

The two new kits could be two Admech fliers (smaller combat only and bigger transport too)...
The old kits boxed game could be xeno flier against BA ST to get BA access to a combat flier too...

my 2 cents

Summer of Fliers? Sounds familiar.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Summer of Fliers? Sounds familiar.

Yeah...innocent times.


I said back then, hey, fliers don't really make sense at that scale, I'm not sure where this is goingis a good thing.

Now we have 34€ infantry characters in plastic mounted on 60mm bases that are only slightly less expensive than an Ork Bomma and the 40k rules are as healthy as ever!


Snark aside, I'm interested if this'll make as much as a splash as Renegade likely will - flyers are mostly in a price band that is still reasonable for a large-ish Warmachine and I don't think there's a pent up demand as there was for Knights (which I don't really get, but, hey, they'll pave the way for even more cool nostalgia tickling stuff).

Unless they drop a plastic Thunderhawk. Millions of people will lose their minds, wallets will cry and Kirby ascends to god, err, deamonhood.

Eh, if you see them as gunships instead of fighter jets it makes a little more sense. The rules and lore implies they are jets though.

Binabik15 wrote:
Snark aside, I'm interested if this'll make as much as a splash as Renegade likely will - flyers are mostly in a price band that is still reasonable for a large-ish Warmachine and I don't think there's a pent up demand as there was for Knights (which I don't really get, but, hey, they'll pave the way for even more cool nostalgia tickling stuff).

Unless they drop a plastic Thunderhawk. Millions of people will lose their minds, wallets will cry and Kirby ascends to god, err, deamonhood.

I think 90% of the Renegade excitement is 1 person who wants 2 Knights for cheap.

If the flyer box has 2 flyers from opposing armies I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as exciting for people who just want cheap models.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think 90% of the Renegade excitement is 1 person who wants 2 Knights for cheap.

If the flyer box has 2 flyers from opposing armies I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as exciting for people who just want cheap models.

It will sell well if there's a good savings, people will trade or ebay the flyer they don't want. It will work precisely as the boxed starters work and if the price is right, it will sell just fine.

Having bought Renegade, I can say the game included is actually pretty fun. It's not complex. There's no point system. But you can play with 2+ players easily, with free for all or teams. Wouldn't even be hard to make wraithknights, Khorne-dozers and stompas work with mild tweaking. Actually, a 3 or 5 knight per side setup would be more enjoyable. One game lasted about 40 mins, and DIDNT end in a slap fight in the middle of the board. There was a slap fight, but combat broke off and ended up gunning each other down with intervening terrain, and came down to a very close game. Decently fun, but not "deep".

If we get a flier game that works similarly, it'll be awesome.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think 90% of the Renegade excitement is 1 person who wants 2 Knights for cheap.

If the flyer box has 2 flyers from opposing armies I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as exciting for people who just want cheap models.

It will sell well if there's a good savings, people will trade or ebay the flyer they don't want. It will work precisely as the boxed starters work and if the price is right, it will sell just fine.

True. I think GW pricing is so insane that fans will jump on anything that might save them a dime. Though I still don't think flyers are going to have the appeal of a starter set (which usually are good for building decent sized forces or filling out existing armies if you buy multiples of them) or the Knight set (where the savings are immediate and don't require you to find someone to split it with or eBay off bits of it).

But I'm probably still just biased by how stupid I think it is flyers are even a thing in 40k

Off course migrating birds are returning!
Half live 3 an plastic Thunderhawk comfirmed!

But seriously i think maybe they will do a similar set like imperial knight renegades but with flyers?

Summer of Flyers? This seems all too familiar.

For the Summer of Flyers, can we also get ways to deal with them for armies with bad AA like Grey Knights and Blood Angels? Or give us out own frickin' flyers that aren't poached by C:SM as well? Same goes for CSM. Heldrakes are nice, but give them some more stuff too. As Mech doesn't need a flyer. They have good AA.

2 Thunderbolts vs a Chaos Thunder Hawk!

Actually the box will come with 2 brand new SM flyers that no one's ever heard of before along with rules for using them in 40k. They will also introduce a new faction, Renegade Space Marine Flyers, who are space marines flyers that have fallen to Chaos. They use the same models as SM but have special transfers (included in the box) to make them Chaos. They are Battle Brothers with Chaos Space Marines.

If I was to take a guess, if they're specificly bringing in new fliers they'll likely be aprt of a special "Imperial Navy" faction. with a specific formation allowing you to take 1 or more Imperial navy fliers.

it worked well for GW with Knights, and players snapped IKs up. itshould work nicely with fliers and honestly be pretty fluffy too. this'll be followed with FW within a week releasing updates to their fliers, explaining how they work within the new Imperial Navy faction

28mm scale flyers game on a recommended 6X4 table? That's gonna encourage efficient movement in the game.

How many models is this game supposed to use?

Like I said, we could really use an Imperial Navy Thunderbolt, it is the iconic fighter of the Imperium, plus the Imperial Guard could stand to get a more widely available fighter, as the Valkyrie is a transport / gunship and not a dedicated interceptor.

And Imperial Navy boarding crew/ground troops. We can wish, eh?

Hell yes if it's a formation for Imperial Navy. I need excuses to buy Lightning, Avenger and Bomber/Destroyer. Imagine a Bomber getting some apocalytic blast D bomb

Heard this just now:

SPACE MARINE STORMHAWK INTERCEPTOR

A multi-part plastic kit that makes the brand new Stormhawk Interceptor – a deadly heavily armed and armoured Space marine fighter, designed to hunt and kill other flyers. This kit can alternatively also be assembled as a Stormtalon Gunship

This product is a must for all fans of the Space Wolves and customers will want to buy more than one box to build bigger units or several units

Another the other kit:

A multi-part plastic kit that makes the brand new Wazbom Blastajet – a deadly, gun heavy, Ork flying fortress. The kit can also be assembled as either a Dakkajet, a Burna-bommer or a Blitza-bommer.

So, older kits but with upgrade sprues for each.

I wonder if those are the ones that would end up being in the boxed game?

Technically they're old kits...

Oh yay, more shinies for marines if those are true :|

So, thusfar, it is a new Space Wolf flyer that is based off the Stormtalon Gunship and a new Ork flyer. If the Stormhawk is an additional sprue for the Stormtalon while still containing the original kit, perhaps this will be a way they could make exclusive interceptor kits for Grey Knights or Blood Angels. Kinda weird that Space Wolves are getting another new flyer when they already have two. I suppose a smaller, non-transport flyer is a good idea. Maybe they will do the reverse for Dark Angels and make a transport flyer.

For the most part, these just look like add-ons to existing kits. Kinda disappointed.


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 CragHack wrote:
Oh yay, more shinies for marines if those are true :|

It is an add-on sprue for the Stormtalon Gunship and the Dakka-Jet. It isn't a brand new kit.

I very much doubt that the Stormhawk is going to be Space Wolf exclusive.

It is an add-on sprue for the Stormtalon Gunship and the Dakka-Jet. It isn't a brand new kit.

It's still most likely going to have a new box like the new Knight has. Thus it's pretty much a new kit using old parts.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I very much doubt that the Stormhawk is going to be Space Wolf exclusive.

I hope it is a kit available for use by any Space Marine faction and that the Space Wolves reference was a mistake. Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Grey Knights need an interceptor flyer. Dangles have the Nephilim, but it isn't good, and Bangles and GK have nothing at all. Being able to take a Stormtalon derivative would fix the issue for all of them.

Honestly, I would not be surprised if it was C:SM only though.

As for the Dakkajet sprue, I would be willing to bet this is what the hint from WD was referencing.

Huh, I actually like that new look the Astartes flyer is sporting.

gak, may have to get one now.

Are those Death Company or Black Templars? Either way, an upgunned Stormtalon is certainly welcome in my army!

It's Black Templars.

That flyer...looks pretty good, actually. Usually GW flyers look silly, but the new space marine one looks kind of reasonable.

The new ork flyer looks ok, but the yellow doesn't look great on it.
GW is using a lot of yellow these days, it seems :/