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2022/02/25 18:25:08
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
For the first time I've set the main weapons side by side in their relative mount positions on the model and I have to say I'm pleased with the result.
Both weapons still need a lot of detail work but as far as size and balance they seem to be compatible; neither overpowering nor outsized for the Titan itself.
Someone voiced concern that the Gatling Blaster would be out of place and was too big for the model but I believe the scale is proper.
It does not have the sleekness of the Plasma Cannon but when paired up with the Quake Cannon (to be addressed at a later date) I think it will serve as a proper addition to the arsenal.
I figured I'll take an image before I cover the barrel cowl with sheet styrene but the more I look at it the more I think it a crime to cover all that detail.
I can't decide....
Opinions would be greatly welcomed.
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2022/02/25 18:54:15
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
I agree that detail looks very nice--I think it'd look fine as is, though maybe a little more mass behind the arm pivot would look good and help match to the plasma--bigger ammo box or something?
2022/02/25 19:11:07
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Vejut wrote: I agree that detail looks very nice--I think it'd look fine as is, though maybe a little more mass behind the arm pivot would look good and help match to the plasma--bigger ammo box or something?
Yeah, I've started work on the Magazine and loader. Not much to see yet.
Thanks for the input.
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2022/02/26 21:10:07
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Fantastic to see the beast in position. I don't think the scale is out at all. I would agree with Vejut, the arm could perhaps use a little more bulk but I'm sure the loader and magazine will fit right in.
I haven't calculated but I'd be willing to bet I'm close to a thousand+ dollars invested in materials on this project.
So anything I can do to defray costs is a bonus.
This past winter with its wind storms the local Exxon and Starbuck which are both within a mile of my residence had their advert signage blown away onto my property.
It fell on me to remove the refuse and as luck would have it the signs were made of 0.020 inch (0.5 millimeter) high grade polystyrene in almost 2/3 of a square yard sheets (~half a square meter.).
Normally a sheet of this size would run me about $12-15 bucks at the local wholesale plastic distributer.
The_Blackadder wrote: Thar's GOLD in Them Thar Recyclables:
Keep an eye out for such windfalls if you're into scratch building projects
You can also ask at sign shops if they want to empty their off cut bin. Last two I went to were quite happy getting rid of them. Ended up with an assortment of styrene.
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Finally something good comes out of a Starbucks ....I mean besides my wife with her overly expensive drink. I should not complain too much as her drink is equal to one model in my army.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/03/01 20:11:26
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
The rear assembly will be hollow and filled with sand bags to counterbalance the forward weight.
I'm going to increase the mount arm robustness because while substantial enough to hold the weapons weight it looks too small compared to the weapon's overall size.
I toyed with the inspiration to have the ammo belt come out of the main body of the hull removing the necessity of making an ammo drum.
We'll see how that shakes out after I complete mounting the current arm assembly.
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2022/03/08 18:12:35
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
I found that the mounting bracket of the arm was too delicate looking for the mass of the gun so I doubled the thickness of the mounting yoke. I used 10/24 countersunk screws and blind nuts to make the universal mountings of the arm.
This way I can achieve almost a full range of motion for the weapon.
I much prefer the intricacies of the drum style yoke to the bracket style yoke of the original 3D image.
Adapting the magazine aft section to the increased caliber of the barrels resulted in a few compromises in the overall appearances of the mounting system.
Have you by chance seen the Adepticon videos for Horus Hersey with the Titans? I know it's the wrong class of Titan, but sure is some sweet animation for the walking towers of destruction.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/04/06 17:13:38
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Do I go for the more utilitarian magazine belt drawn from the hull of the titan or the ruddy great ammo drum mounted under the recoil/loader aft end of the gun.
To me the drum offers a small number of rounds compared to the in hull magazine plus it will hang very low on what is already a massive construction compared to the elegant Plasma Blaster and even the multi barreled Quake Cannon.
Regardless the infeed ports on the sides of the loader needs to be manufactured and positioned.
The components shown above.
The layout of the position drawn in which will be aligned with the drum and the hull positions.
Have you by chance seen the Adepticon videos for Horus Hersey with the Titans? I know it's the wrong class of Titan, but sure is some sweet animation for the walking towers of destruction.
Link please....
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2022/04/06 22:27:44
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Utility or Glitz:
I've come to a crossroads regarding the magazine.
Do I go for the more utilitarian magazine belt drawn from the hull of the titan or the ruddy great ammo drum mounted under the recoil/loader aft end of the gun.
To me the drum offers a small number of rounds compared to the in hull magazine plus it will hang very low on what is already a massive construction compared to the elegant Plasma Blaster and even the multi barreled Quake Cannon.
Masterful engineering and styrene construction, as usual I am in awe of your skills and dedication!
On the mag-belt vs the drum - mag-belt all the way; the drum will probably look awkward hanging low.
The clincher was that the ammo belt port lines up perfectly with the hull section that I designated for the belt egress, no lie, it lined up perfectly. Ha!
Seen here directly above the loading port.
The large blank area is where the belt will be situated.
A much better use than proposed in the original concept 3D art.
Cheers!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay so I opted for the in hull magazine.
The clincher was that the ammo belt port lines up perfectly with the hull section that I designated for the belt egress, no lie, it lined up perfectly. Ha!
Seen here directly above the loading port.
The large blank area is where the belt will be situated.
A much better use than proposed in the original concept 3D art.
Cheers!
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2022/04/07 09:23:58
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
I would imagine a drum magazine would be much more reliable and safe than an external belt to the hull.
As the arm moves to aim, it would twist, turn, and otherwise stress the belt to the point where rounds might jam. Not to mention the possibility of someone targeting the belt and potentially breaking it, or worse causing a chain-fire ammo detonation that could reach back into the hull...
CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done.
2022/04/14 16:03:40
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Sorry, I've been gone for a bit, so I missed your response and didn't cast my vote. I vote for the drum Mag. Having a reserve inside the titan does not make sense to me as I see the arms as Modular, even if they are not really so in game, so dedicating a space on the titan itself for ammo doesn't strike me as practicle. Also having a flexible belt going from one spot to the other just sounds like trouble.
The animation I had mentioned
It's obviously to sell the marines and boxes coming out this summer, but there are some titan scenes in it. They look far too agile to my liking, but they blow up real good
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/04/16 18:35:51
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
So jamming in belts is a real issue, but it’s the spent case ejection that gives me cause for concern… concern for all the ground troops it’s ejecting on to proper 40k!
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2022/04/19 01:31:48
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
Thing is, you wouldn't be swapping the ammo out in the field, so you could have the spent shells (if there even are shells, could be caseless) just stay in the same slot in the magazine. This isn't gonna be spring-fed.
There'd be a limited number of shots in the field, then the titan would be in a 'drydock' or they'd use specialized equipment for reloading. Might not even remove the drum, but just have a reloading port on the back of it.
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2022/04/25 15:06:00
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
After being laid up with yet another bout with Covid, the worst one yet, these past few days have seen me in a flurry of industry where I managed to add quite a bit of detail to the upper works.
This first images of the superstructure shows the angular shaped stained glass window frames that decorate the bastions in groups or threes;
I made dozens of these basic decorations and they are used throughout the model in various sizes. Each one will ultimately be embellished with cut out paper 40k stained glass themes.
I may or may not cut these out and install lighting behind the frames but that is far down the road from where I am today.
The next images show the Gatling blaster mounted once again with the rear position of the gun mechanism lined up with the hull magazine. Amazingly it lines up with the proposed belt chain of projectiles even though I had not initially planned for this.
Yeah I know; it looks like a step backwards but it took me a couple of days installing these stained glass window frames and the details thus far.
But now I can install the finer detail items such as layered armour, skulls and Aquilae, corner angles and tchotchkes. You'll see where I am going with this..
I've already decided I need to make two more building structures, rectories if you will' between the front and rear bastions which will really make the interior of the superstructure really POP!
