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Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan:

Well a good many of you know by announcing this I have a fair idea of how I am going to proceed with this build but we also know we're gonna be in it for the long haul. Now that FW has released a Warlord (I'll buy the Chaos version when they release it because Chaos and the sculpted organic hulls and carapaces go well together in my opinion) but the Warlord Mars and Alpha not so much; also IMHO. Anyway it's always been in my mind to build a transport companion for my Warlord perhaps a foot taller with ruddy great greaves and threshold steps and Imperium Aquila doors to release a few hordes of grunts. I figure my Emperor titan to be on the order of 80 CM/32 inches tall.

This build will be much more of a static model than any of my previous efforts as I have seen the classic Emperor Titan and they look best with legs spread and threatening and it's just too much work to repeat all the leg articulation.



So this past winter I've been collecting parts and formulating my ideas and with this last Amazon purchase of a 'Sanctum Imperialis' building I am ready to begin the build starting with the greaves and feet.

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Thanks for all the replies to this false start, I apologize for failing to acknowledge your interest in this thread.

Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'

So with the blurb ten months ago about my proposal to begin an Imperator Titan I kinda fell flat on my face.

First, finishing up the Thunderhawk monopolized a good deal of my time and learning how to best incorporate lighting in said Thunderhawk and my Warlord engaged yet more time. Then the Presidential election captured my attention almost to the exclusion of all things else. Finally I have returned to normalcy with what I consider a fabulous idea to make a hip and lower torso mount commensurate with an automaton of this magnitude.

So we shall begin with the 'pelvis' which I found ready made on my local Lowes Building center where I purchased about six bucks worth of PVC pipe fittings A compression fitting Tee, a threaded coupling for the connection to the upper torso and two more for the hips connections.

http://i.imgur.com/u2Jmn7x.jpg


Naturally all this is quite utilitarian and looks exactly what it is, some pipe fittings and there are many titans that follow this procedure and leave the fittings as is. I intend to flesh out the assembly in styrene so as to hide all the piping that will only serve as an armature or skeleton for the model.

In the image below you will get an idea of how much more robust this construct will be compared to the pelvis and hips of my Warlord.

http://i.imgur.com/ZnV8V8v.jpg


Where as Luteus Vexant has hips trunnions about an inch in diameter 'Invictus' shall have 1.5 inch axles.

The beauty of this ready made construction technique is I shall be able pivot the waist and separate the model easily and hopefully allow the legs to be posed in a walking position as well as the spraddle-legged pose.

http://i.imgur.com/4KsMObK.jpg

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I've been away from the P&M section for a while, came back and a new project has been underway .

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Glad to have you Theophony, are you going to build along with me?

Pelvis Engineering Compartment Floor:

This time I'm going to do it right.

Since I already have an idea of how large this titan will be and the fact that I do want a full interior I will be able to plan the layout as I build. None of the hit or miss second guessing I ran into on the Warlord titan

Below are the two pieces of the Engineering base and Pelvis 82 MM square with two center holes for the waist shaft 21 MM diameter. The pieces are 2 MM thick styrene, one of the few time I work with such thick styrene because of the difficulty forming it and the danger of a knife blade slipping and cutting your hand. Extreme care should be exercised when cutting 2,0 MM styrene

http://i.imgur.com/zDkryhO.jpg


The plates slip over the Tee shaft and have a clearance of 1MM on either side to install the 1 MM side walls.

http://i.imgur.com/N0buMb6.jpg


Eventually there will be nothing showing of the Tee but the compression fittings that will serve as the hip joint housing and also allow the legs to be removed to re-position for posing.

You might want to try building along with this thread because I intend to offer a step by step tutorial at least for the basic structure. How you detail the model is up to you but I'll show what I consider an Lucius Pattern Emperor titan should look like and you can build your walking turreted cathedral if you wish.

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Great to see you back at it, Adder!!

How do you plan to engineer the feet? I mean, will you make "ankles" or something similar on the inside of the troop compartments at the legs?

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Good question and how many troops do the greaves hold anyway.

According to Warhammer 40K Wikia:

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperator-class_Titan

"The Imperator and Warmonger Emperor Titans stand approximately 55.5 metres (182 feet) tall" and hold a company of infantry(I'm guessing about 200 troops?

Judging bu the size of the greaves even on an Emperor the grunts must be stacked up like cord wood.

Can I get an auto append interrupter I've got more to post later.............?

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Theo in for the auto append kill .

Not joining you with a build right now. My time has been taken up with adeath in the family and dealing with the outcomes of that. I finally painted some figs for the first time in months today, and building has been totally sidelined for the foreseeable future.

I remember the capacity being 100 total, I could be wrong, that would be 50 per leg. I believe there's supposed to be internal stairwells as well to go all the way up to the pilots compartment.

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Okay so I had some 3/8 inch box beams (Plastruct) laying about so I used them as spacers to thicken the construction and give it strength to boot. Then if I need to modify it later it will be easier to sand down instead of a solid block.

http://i.imgur.com/a8Qgxh0.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/FIQUh3s.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/RwtL7aC.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/LkzMGrT.jpg


This all seems pretty boring and I hope to get into the fancy stuff soon. Right now giving this heavy model (My warlord upper body weighs seven pounds) a strong basic structure is paramount.



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Auto append has been neutralized .

Might seem boring, but it's the little bits like this that most people forget about planning for and then wind up with a disaster later on.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
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I agree with Theophony; these things aren't boring, but invaluable info for people considering any kind of titan build. Well, they can check you other threads for the smaller ones as well of course, but it'll be interesting to see how you are going to use your past experience to improve on this design.

Oh, and on a more personal note: congratulations, I've been slowly getting back into the hobby after a 4-year hiatus,and the idea of your Warmonger got me to post here on dakka again. Thanks for that, it was just the nudge I needed

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Wow "26334 posts" must be those cold dark Michigan winters that give so much free time

Thanks for all the replies, these Emperor Titans must be popular.

Basic Pelvis Block Complete:

With thsi post the basic pelvis is complete. All that is left is applying the detail. I may bevel the corners and edges to add more pizzazz as I did on the Thunderhawk but all that is cosmetic.

http://i.imgur.com/zJQSzyE.jpg


The Epic Imperator is very plain and you can let your imangination run wild with the amount of detail a 3 foot tall model requires. I have a good stock of City of Dead panels left over from my Warlord and I have a Fortress of Redemption to decorate the greaves if needs be.

http://i.imgur.com/2oMX14M.jpg


I used 0.040 thousandths styrene to sheath the pelvis and sanded the edges smooth; there's not really much to say about the step except to take great pains to make your angles square and true. Good enough is never "Good Enough"; that's my motto.

http://i.imgur.com/PUPtHYJ.jpg


A few extra pains taken now will save you a lot of grief later.

http://i.imgur.com/Jp3YsLu.jpg






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"Death to auto append!"

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
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It lucky you have a lot of experience in the home built titan dpt, good start.

 
   
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Thanks for the replies,

Getting the right angle:

I've wracked my brains trying to come up with a way to manufacture legs that were angled slightly akimbo (about 10%) so my Warmonger can be posed in the classic manner. Most of the pipe fitting models I have seen have the legs parallel to each other and it looks boxy and strange to the artistic eye. Never mind that parallel legs or even legs canted in to a pigeon toed stance are more amenable to a proper walking gate. For a static stance nothing compares to the rock solid look of a spraddled posture.

This realized, getting the proper fittings is out. You have three choices; 90°, 45°, and 22.5° and that's it, so to get the requisite 10° I'll have to manufacture them.

Here's my solution:

I bought two caps and drilled and taped two 1/4 20 NC threads into the caps and short threaded coupling. I purposely made two different angles, one 10° and one about 12°, as once the legs are built I can chose which angle I like better or maybe keep both for a bit of variation. I screwed in two 6 inch threaded rods that will serve as the thigh shafts, thin and strong and able to support the ten pounds or more of the upper body when finished.

http://i.imgur.com/tPwX9xN.jpg


Next I slipped two styrene tubes over the threaded rods that will serve as the glue base for all the thigh shaft construction and ultimately the detail of the upper legs.

http://i.imgur.com/TUygS3w.jpg


Your pardon for the hiatus but I took a last minute vacation for the past few weeks to clear my head and tour Florida.

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 Theophony wrote:
"Death to auto append!"


LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Ingenious. It's why I like your builds

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Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
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Thanks for the reply,

Two Steps Back:

Found these dynomite compression couplings that are just made for this construct so scrap the rods and the sleeve for the nonce and work on cropping the length of the assembly.

http://i.imgur.com/rDXJWCH.jpg


By cutting off the octagons I managed to crop the length by about 30 MM which makes the extreme width of the hips 12.5 inches (31.75 CM) compared to my Warlord's 10.5 inches (26.67 CM) which should be just right for a scale:180 to 200 ft (54 to 61 meter) tall Emperor Titan.

http://i.imgur.com/bLFeR7p.jpg

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 Theophony wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
"Death to auto append!"


Wonder how many times I can quote myself in this thread to kill auto appends

Good find with the compression fittings.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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If you thought the Warlord was inspiration wait til you get a load of this.

Oh God I'm In Love:

Look what I just found! Before I started this I had so-so enthusiasm for this project thinking it's worth a shot making a easy to build Emperor Titan that my readers might attempt along with me but that stops now!

I am totally jazzed about this project since I found this head. Back when I began my Warlord finding Dave Smith's Epic rendering committed me to the project. That is what finding this image has done.

http://i.imgur.com/Y2qZ5Cv.png


Starting now I'm going to build this part full sized (as it prints out on Landscape 8.5 X 11 paper) and build the rest of the titan in proportion.

The overall size is just about an inch bigger than my Warlord's head overall so it is in keeping with my projected height for my Emperor.

This is going to be 'dynomite!' if I can accomplish it.

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In before Theophony for the death to auto-append thingy :p.

And: wow, nice find on the head.Looking forward to seeing it come to life!

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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Whoever that artist is deserves a medal or a plastic card replica of a medal

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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That new head is fantastic, I'm glad to see you're excited about ti too

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Simple As Falling Off A Log:

When I started this thread I said to myself, "I'm going to make this model as simply as I can just to see what can be done with off the shelf items readily available to the judicious builder.

I planned this so anyone can make one of these along with me.

http://i.imgur.com/57b5tEn.jpg


Here we have about $25 bucks worth of plastic pipe fittings, and model styrene. A $3.50 bottle of conditioner (We just need the bottle and a bit of imagination (Supplied by your's truly ) and a fantastic head image to work off of, all you need is a cheap printer........

So with these parts gathered there should be no problem making the head and hip components.

http://i.imgur.com/UM5Uizc.jpg


The next part is a bit of a lark on my part; you're going to need an old beach chair. We've all seen them usually tossed in the rubbish with a broken hinge mechanism but usually two or three still functioning and all we need is two.

http://i.imgur.com/PiTcJro.jpg


These will form working knee joints, I hope, with a bit of ingenuity.

http://i.imgur.com/f5Z1vAb.jpg


Of course it's not necessary to have flexing knees but since I have the chair I might as well go for the gusto. ;-)




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Affton, MO. USA

 Theophony wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
"Death to auto append!"


Wonder how many times I can quote myself in this thread to kill auto appends

Good find with the compression fittings.


Just waiting to see where you use the kitchen sink since you are using everything else .

I'd be working on building one right beside you if I had the time, but for now I will live vicariously through your build and use it later to try my own.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
 
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