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In fifth edition, back at the height of the draigostar era, I visited my hometown back from college and decided to go to the local FLGS for game day.

I got in an hour after it had kicked off and there was one guy waiting for a game, and I soon learned why. His list was the power-gameyest build in the game, with half built unpainted models. My list was just a random assortment of orks at that point.

This guy (I learned this after "the incident" from observers):

1) took a 2000pt list against my 1500 (I had never played GK and his list was like 15 models)

2) Used psycannons as torrent S6 flamers (didn't know they weren't)

3) Shunted his DKs two turns in a row and charged after shunting

4) Teleported his draigostar and said he could charge

5) did a quickscoop of the initiative die and said he rolled a six.

Bottom of turn 2 I was tabled except for 10ish models, and I cast Zogwart's curse on draigo. Won the roll-off.

Then, the guy claimed that "because of WYSIWYG" I was not allowed to replace draigo with my bomb squig model because he's supposed to become a normal squig, not a bomb squig. So therefore the power didn't work.

The guy who had nearly tabled me with unpainted pairs of dreadknight pants and armless termies because he didn't have actual paladin models.

Because of WYSIWYG.

Still goes down in history in my mind as the single greatest cheat ever, simply due to its bald faced ludicrousness. The guy simply could not accept losing a single model and declared the game over, then walked over to the other tables where people were playing and loudly announced he had won.

Only person I ever caught cheating was actually a fellow GW clerk when I worked as a redshirt. He played Tyranids and would move the tape measure as he was moving models. He'd try to get the extra inch or two he needed to make it into assault that way. Flat out denied it every time I called him on it so I just tried to play him as little as possible.

The other thing is not really cheating, but I was new to Blood Bowl and entered the store league to learn the ropes. First two games were against other newbies, only difference is they had experienced friends leaning over their shoulder and telling them what to do every turn to crush me. I hate people butting in, whichever side they're "helping". Let us play our own game FFS...

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Only person I ever caught cheating was actually a fellow GW clerk when I worked as a redshirt. He played Tyranids and would move the tape measure as he was moving models. He'd try to get the extra inch or two he needed to make it into assault that way. Flat out denied it every time I called him on it so I just tried to play him as little as possible.

The other thing is not really cheating, but I was new to Blood Bowl and entered the store league to learn the ropes. First two games were against other newbies, only difference is they had experienced friends leaning over their shoulder and telling them what to do every turn to crush me. I hate people butting in, whichever side they're "helping". Let us play our own game FFS...

Yeah, that level of in game coaching really annoys the hell out of me as well.

And loud heavy metal music blasting out the speakers annoys the feth out of me!

People knew that, and I think they cranked up the volume to put me off my game.

At my old gaming club years ago, they were pretty relaxed about certain things, including the consumption of alcoholic drinks, so some games, my judgement was a bit skewered


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the_scotsman wrote:
In fifth edition, back at the height of the draigostar era, I visited my hometown back from college and decided to go to the local FLGS for game day.

I got in an hour after it had kicked off and there was one guy waiting for a game, and I soon learned why. His list was the power-gameyest build in the game, with half built unpainted models. My list was just a random assortment of orks at that point.

This guy (I learned this after "the incident" from observers):

1) took a 2000pt list against my 1500 (I had never played GK and his list was like 15 models)

2) Used psycannons as torrent S6 flamers (didn't know they weren't)

3) Shunted his DKs two turns in a row and charged after shunting

4) Teleported his draigostar and said he could charge

5) did a quickscoop of the initiative die and said he rolled a six.

Bottom of turn 2 I was tabled except for 10ish models, and I cast Zogwart's curse on draigo. Won the roll-off.

Then, the guy claimed that "because of WYSIWYG" I was not allowed to replace draigo with my bomb squig model because he's supposed to become a normal squig, not a bomb squig. So therefore the power didn't work.

The guy who had nearly tabled me with unpainted pairs of dreadknight pants and armless termies because he didn't have actual paladin models.

Because of WYSIWYG.

Still goes down in history in my mind as the single greatest cheat ever, simply due to its bald faced ludicrousness. The guy simply could not accept losing a single model and declared the game over, then walked over to the other tables where people were playing and loudly announced he had won.

If people are prepared to go to such extremes for a friendly game, you wonder why they bother turning up in the first place...

I have not encountered wargaming cheating much.

Sadly, a friend of mine and a long-standing RT/DW player did cheat in our RPG sessions. We do not know exactly how much, but one of the other players reported to me that he had seen said friend rolling one result and telling everyone he rolled another, something I was inclined to believe in given the very suspicious long-standing trend of lucky crits and whatnot he had.

For d100s he still rolls two 0-9 dice instead of one 0-9 and one 0-90 like the others (as it is his own dice) with only colour to tell them apart, and sometimes I get suspicious that he is quite liberal with which dice was supposed to represent what...

I myself have not cheated but I have made lots and lots of mistakes of knowledge back when I played Orks (I believed Nobz had Big Choppas by default and that it was what their one-handed choppas were, for instance).

One thing I've seen a lot of people do is make a measurement that is extremely close/questionable and then go head and move their models before it can be verified by the other player (e.g., a charge move that may or may not be within range by a fraction of an inch). When questioned, they'll put the model(s) back in their "original" place, but of course it's impossible to determine exactly where that original place was and being off by even a millimeter makes all the difference.

Recently had a game with my GK's (having gotten back into them recently) and didn't bother to read about what the shunt rule is.

Charged a dreadknight into some bikers right after the move...he died anyway. Felt like a douche for screwing up that rule though and even after my opponent asked if I could do that.

I've seen dudes cheat, mostly at events where a prize is on the line - and the glorious happenings when the cheating is discovered. Although, and I'm still annoyed whenever I think about this, there was a time where a guy annoyed his way into winning because the TO didn't want to listen to the assclown whine about how he'd driven so far for his 'first round buy'. He hadn't been present for ANY of the preceding games...so he COULDN'T have earned a first round buy...explained this to the TO who shrugged and gave the guy the prize anyway.

God, people really DO suck don't they.

I've been pretty lucky in my gaming experiences--I've either rarely encountered cheats, or gamed with REALLY adept cheaters that got their cheating in without my noticing.

I have one story that could have been cheating but I think it was just a matter of one player mixing things up. It was years ago in a game of Battletech that had two teams of two players each controlling a bunch of `Mechs and vehicles. Because of the sheer number of units involved in the game record keeping was difficult, but for the group I was playing with games of that size were common so everyone was (supposedly) up to the challenge.

At one point another player and I were sending our full forces at one another and were specifically attacking each other's biggest `Mechs. After a few turns of concentrated fire my `Mech went down, but his kept coming! It wasn't until I put another full round of fire into his damned `Mech from my remaining forces that I realized the problem--throughout the exchange he had been marking damage on the wrong record sheet.

So, essentially other units in his force were "absorbing" the damage I was throwing at his VIP `Mech. After much (playful) verbal abuse from everyone at the table we arrived at a solution and moved on with the game. For years afterward, though, the poor guy who mixed things up couldn't live down his error and he would be asked to double and triple check which unit he was marking damage on. For years.

Even if he was cheating I think his punishment more than made up for the crime.

Once with my Gk against a friend with a csm army, for one turn, I got the rules for preferred enemy wrong, and was rerolling all my failed hits against his daemon units. Realized my error and apologized. Never heard the end of it.

I retired from actually playing against anyone who'd even consider cheating a long time ago.

But the reports of all the cheating that goes on, and is condoned by, the major tournaments always makes for funny reading.

The cleverest thing I've read about recently was the guy who drilled out the 2's on his dice to be 5's so his Tzeentch Grimoired deathstar couldn't fail saves. That's fairly inventive at least.

I cant say I ever did it on purpose, but when building an army I tend to build one army at a given point value. And I play that army composition pretty much exclusively. I find its the best way to learn how to win with any army. However, what has happened a few times is when I've tried to scale the list down to match an opponent and then over the course of a game, I go into auto mode and forget that I've removed a power weapon here, or a plasma pistol there, just to match points. I simply go about playing those guys as I have dozens of times before. Removing whole units to reduce points is easy, but its those last 15-75 points of wargear that just seem to slip my mind. It doesn't help that all my models will still have their "upgraded" wargear on them as I don't usually have a side board of unupgraded models.

One of my friends who played orks would constantly try and do front to back measuring for movement we'd call him on it and basically quit mid game anytime he was caught. We'd have to keep track of how many turns had passed and then measure the max movement possible from the deployment point and pretty much without fail he'd be an extra 2-3 inches beyond what they could reach at maximum speed. He'd also bump his models forward if you left the table to use the bathroom or get a drink. When playing warmachine he'd always mis-measure in his favor when doing charges, and would always have 1-2 focus points beyond what he should have for boosting and spells claiming he "forgot" to remove a token etc. He may also be the guy that was cited earlier in the thread as using a fabric tape measure, he did that at Adepticon playing warmahordes and it caused a bit of heated debate. He claimed it was for "ease of measurement" when making turns but knowing him for the better part of 15 years I can say it was because he could stretch it and get that extra half inch or so when it suited him.

One game I knew he was going to try and do his usual BS, I told him I was going to hit the washroom and sure enough he bumped several of his units forward while I was gone, he then took a break for himself knowing that there'd be a verbal fight if I moved any of his models back to their original places so I moved all mine back 8 inches so his charge would fail, and given that I play Tau I blasted the living crap out of him when he suddenly couldn't reach the gun line.

He was also a fan of "the fast scoop" where he'd blurt out a number faster than anyone could reasonably count the results and scoop all the dice at once. There's absolutely no way he could count the results of 80 dice worth of charging orks in 2 seconds. He'd also try and cover dice with his hand or roll it into terrain so he could block sight of it and claim a success scooping it or tilting it before you could verify. It didn't take long before we stopped playing with him altogether and he's cried about it nonstop for the last 2-3 years. He still games in the area but has to drive a good distance as none of the guys in the immediate area will play him anymore.

When I played ccgs we had a local guy who was a compulsive cheater, he'd always have too many cards in his hand as he'd draw extras at any opportunity or have 9-10 cards when you had a max hand size of 8. He'd stack his deck before matches, pile shuffling so he'd have an even spread of resources and personalities. He claimed he was pile shuffling "to remove clumps" but it's deck stacking. Since some of the effects (duels) in l5r require putting your hand aside and using the top 5 cards of the deck he'd switch cards between his hand and 5 card pool. He'd also been caught sliding power cards under his mat or bottom decking so he could pull off that crucial combo exactly when needed. He was caught at a bunch of events and received several bans lasting from a month to a 3 year ban at one point.

The most ballsy move was at a sealed deck event that required a 30 card minimum he asked to shuffle the opponents deck which is allowed under floor rules and while shuffling he palmed two of his opponent cards. Several turns into the game he "somehow noticed" that his opponents deck was two cards short, the judge checked the deck and found that it didn't meet the minimum and disqualified him despite protest of the player claiming he'd had 30 cards as required. This was in the final round of the event so it gave the cheater the win by default. Unfortunately it wasn't caught at the time but was found out later as they had been covering the event with a web camera broadcast and people saw it in the replay, he was also bragging about it to his friends. That's when he got a three year ban from all of the organized events and basically a permaban from our local TO who justifiably dislikes him. Outside of card gaming he's a decent guy but I refuse to play him for any reason as he always cheats even in the most casual of casual games.

Because I barely play 40k nowadays I "cheat" usually when due to a change of rules I either get the new rule wrong or substitute it for reasons unknown by another that has some similarity. Last year I spent the 1st half convinced that Phoenix Lords had 4 wounds instead of 3 (Probably because of Yriel) I really was embarrassed when I found out.
Or thinking stubborn gave you rerolls to ld (due to Commissars giving you rerolls and stubborn)

M.

Me cheating: End of a tournament game, I accidentally rolled too many dice, like 4 extra. I tell the guy I'll take out 4 hits. He still got upset...I didn't get that at all so I rerolled with the proper number of dice and rolled more hits than before.

Me being cheated: At a tournament in Newark Delaware, this guy shows up after the first round, so I end up being given a bye...which means average score for a draw and no sportsmanship votes. Plus, my fully painted and converted army, which had just won a Best Painted at Showcase Comics, was not paint judged, so the guy who showed up late...and whose army was half painted and looked like it had been done by a child...was given the Best Painted award. I politely inquired if we could see the scores and was brushed off, but I did see the spread sheet and know this happened.

I haven't played at that location since.

I played a former GW staffer who had a bad reputation as to being a jerk at a tournament at Dream Wizards. I really liked his army. I recreated it in AB later and it was 500 points over.

Nine times out of ten it's less a case of malice and more a case of inexperience / incompetence / a honest mistake than anything else. In my case it's probably all three, especially paired with the giddiness of getting to play after a long, long time of inactivity.

I have been accused of cheating twice, which are honest mistakes on my end because I don't play as often as I would like, but some people are like elephants, they never forget, thus never forgive.

1. Back during the 6th we had a flyer-only event where we'd dogfight and whatnot. I brought along a Vulture with Hunter-killer missile racks. Now flyers can shoot up to four weapons per turn, so I shot four missiles. Little did I know that back then during that edition you weren't allowed to fire more than two missiles per shooting phase. However, I was amongst veteran players whom I asked a lot of stuff I didn't know about (like the whole "How do flyers work?" thing ), so I wasn't personally aware of doing anything foul. I get shot down, I respawn and line up a perfect shot, once again declaring that I'm going to fire four missiles.



Commence the pointing and shouting, followed by me stating I had done it before, under their watchful eyes. "Okay, don't do it again."

After the event the store owner came up to me and told me that one of the players was shocked and appalled by my behaviour and the "cheese" unit I brought to the game. We ended up having a hearty laugh about it, because the entire game I managed to shoot down nobody or do anything worthy of notice, other than messing up a rule.

2. During a more recent battle I accidentally rolled ten dice too many. A pretty fething stupid thing to do, but my opponent wasn't all that bothered by it, as he's the cool Tau player who is an absolute joy to play against. Now the spectator on the other hand, a rather annoying guy who nobody likes to play all that much due to being rather anal about the rules, did jump down my throat about it, demanding that as a punishment for my cheating the killed models should be put back and the next unit to shoot should fire with half the amount of dice. Again, my opponent wasn't bothered by this.

So yeah, I'm not a cheater, just an idiot.

Interesting stories - looks like I opened a can of worms with this one. You've all destroyed my trust in human nature

How do you guys feel about people straying over their points limit when it comes to army lists?

In a 2000 point game, I don't mind people being anything up to 50 points over the limit, as people do miscount, but some people have claimed the 10% over the limit rule is allowed, and have used that extra 200 points to get another unit

For the sake of a quiet life, and a game, I usually let it pass, but it still annoys me. If you're total is 2011 or something, fine, but 2200? Never!

 paulson games wrote:
One of my friends who played orks would constantly try and do front to back measuring for movement we'd call him on it and basically quit mid game anytime he was caught. We'd have to keep track of how many turns had passed and then measure the max movement possible from the deployment point and pretty much without fail he'd be an extra 2-3 inches beyond what they could reach at maximum speed. He'd also bump his models forward if you left the table to use the bathroom or get a drink. When playing warmachine he'd always mis-measure in his favor when doing charges, and would always have 1-2 focus points beyond what he should have for boosting and spells claiming he "forgot" to remove a token etc. He may also be the guy that was cited earlier in the thread as using a fabric tape measure, he did that at Adepticon playing warmahordes and it caused a bit of heated debate. He claimed it was for "ease of measurement" when making turns but knowing him for the better part of 15 years I can say it was because he could stretch it and get that extra half inch or so when it suited him.

One game I knew he was going to try and do his usual BS, I told him I was going to hit the washroom and sure enough he bumped several of his units forward while I was gone, he then took a break for himself knowing that there'd be a verbal fight if I moved any of his models back to their original places so I moved all mine back 8 inches so his charge would fail, and given that I play Tau I blasted the living crap out of him when he suddenly couldn't reach the gun line.

He was also a fan of "the fast scoop" where he'd blurt out a number faster than anyone could reasonably count the results and scoop all the dice at once. There's absolutely no way he could count the results of 80 dice worth of charging orks in 2 seconds. He'd also try and cover dice with his hand or roll it into terrain so he could block sight of it and claim a success scooping it or tilting it before you could verify. It didn't take long before we stopped playing with him altogether and he's cried about it nonstop for the last 2-3 years. He still games in the area but has to drive a good distance as none of the guys in the immediate area will play him anymore.

When I played ccgs we had a local guy who was a compulsive cheater, he'd always have too many cards in his hand as he'd draw extras at any opportunity or have 9-10 cards when you had a max hand size of 8. He'd stack his deck before matches, pile shuffling so he'd have an even spread of resources and personalities. He claimed he was pile shuffling "to remove clumps" but it's deck stacking. Since some of the effects (duels) in l5r require putting your hand aside and using the top 5 cards of the deck he'd switch cards between his hand and 5 card pool. He'd also been caught sliding power cards under his mat or bottom decking so he could pull off that crucial combo exactly when needed. He was caught at a bunch of events and received several bans lasting from a month to a 3 year ban at one point.

The most ballsy move was at a sealed deck event that required a 30 card minimum he asked to shuffle the opponents deck which is allowed under floor rules and while shuffling he palmed two of his opponent cards. Several turns into the game he "somehow noticed" that his opponents deck was two cards short, the judge checked the deck and found that it didn't meet the minimum and disqualified him despite protest of the player claiming he'd had 30 cards as required. This was in the final round of the event so it gave the cheater the win by default. Unfortunately it wasn't caught at the time but was found out later as they had been covering the event with a web camera broadcast and people saw it in the replay, he was also bragging about it to his friends. That's when he got a three year ban from all of the organized events and basically a permaban from our local TO who justifiably dislikes him. Outside of card gaming he's a decent guy but I refuse to play him for any reason as he always cheats even in the most casual of casual games.

Jesus, what a bunch of jerks. Those guys should lose their right to game forever

leopard wrote:


Optimistic movement, e.g. we started at least 24" apart, you had a move of 6", I don't care where you're models are you can't be less than 16" away, and no amount of "well if thats how you want to play" is going to change that.

At the HH tournament at AdeptiCon, I heard the "If that's the way you want to play it" from 2 different Raven Guard players concerning them abusing the infiltrate deployment far too close.

I get that infiltrate is your bag, baby. But you still have to follow the rules.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Jesus, what a bunch of jerks. Those guys should lose their right to game forever

Those are just a few examples of why I don't game much anymore, regardless of if it's minis or cards or even board games there's a lot of d-bags that just ruin it for everyone else. I occasionally play against my brother or a couple select friends but avoid gaming at LGS or anything competitive because so many people are just really crappy about gaming in a fair manner.


I forgot another time honored tactic the ork player would use, pretend to measure by hovering it above the unit he's about to move. Instead of using the tape measure to correctly mark the distance, retract the tape measure and then eye ball the distance claiming you just measured it and know exactly where the model should be able to move to. Which is always magically a bit further than what the model could legally move. When called on it vigorously defend this by putting up a loud vocal front claiming that it's not where the model really started and that the "real" position was exactly at 6 inches form the current location he just eye balled. Repeat until people are just fed up with you and say whatever dude...

(Pretty obvious cheating when he started next to a piece of terrain or a crack in the table)

Most of the time for me, I just mis-remember rules like crazy (as I don't play all that often, and my memory is abysmal at the best of times). So it ends up that I'll be thinking of a rule from 5th edition, and how it was back then, and I'll end up getting it completely wrong.

Although I have been accused a few times of cheating before. I used to have a really bad tendency to roll my dice a bit too hard ("thrown" would probably be an accurate term), so I used to roll behind buildings and terrain so I didn't end up accidentally throwing dice off the table, or what not. Well, long story short, some people thought I was doing it deliberately so they couldn't see what I was rolling. I'm not smart enough to cheat like some of the others mentioned in this thread.

When I played fantasy, I used a rule to my advantage. In an old skaven army book, the wording for the Warp lightning cannon said if its charged, the unit would always flee as its reaction. It didn't say it had to be a possible successful charge. So every turn I'd declare a charge against it with one of my units, regardless of distance so it could never fire.

Oddly, someone accused me of cheating because I would just roll two dice when a weapon was twin linked, rather then roll 1 time, then reroll a miss. They said I had to roll and reroll because the odds were different. .

1. Rolling behind terrain. Nope reroll that please in the open. Happens all the time especially for the power rolls. Oh look I rolled invisibility , iron arm and endurance.

2. The sly hand roll that always rolls high.

3. Dice mess on their side of the table so the confusion of what was rolled exists.

Just to name a few.

first, the accidental. Math. Playing a tournament, with Tau, the first Tau Empire (softcover) codex. Made the list the night before, thought I had paid 300 points for 10 marker drones, found out I had paid 30. oops, let the TO know.

now the blatant rules abuse. When the GK got their own codex I abused the heck out of Karamazov's ability to fire on friendlies with what I termed the 'bank shot'. Zooming fliers are auto-missed by blasts, using IG Valkyries to 'aim' the blasts, there was plenty of model overhanging the base that I could easily use the wings, tail or front to precision place the orbital strikes to hit precisely what I wanted to.

Biggest one I ran into was at a 40k tournament back in 3.5 era where I ran into the "I saw it in a FAQ online, I didn't print it out but I'm still going to insist on playing by those rules" guy.

Ended up tying against him, but mostly because I was in his face from turn 2 and he was playing Tau. I think he's still somewhat big in the local tournament scene, but since I stopped playing 40K I'm not sure if he still tries to play the same game.

I think it's only really fair to class it as cheating if you have an intent to do so. Otherwise most of what I have encountered is slips of memory and not intentional (at least that's my excuse )

I think we've all come across things in games that weren't in the 'spirit of the rules'. Really, really dirty lists just for a club night game when you don't know the person that well (for some reason it feels different to me if I do know them better), and obviously if the game isn't very tight on structure or balance (40k, AoS or Bolt Action) where you can sometimes see some hilarious setups, and the other person wondering if it's worth 2 hours of a game where you know the result before you've started.

 paulson games wrote:


*snip*

The most ballsy move was at a sealed deck event that required a 30 card minimum he asked to shuffle the opponents deck which is allowed under floor rules and while shuffling he palmed two of his opponent cards. Several turns into the game he "somehow noticed" that his opponents deck was two cards short, the judge checked the deck and found that it didn't meet the minimum and disqualified him despite protest of the player claiming he'd had 30 cards as required. This was in the final round of the event so it gave the cheater the win by default. Unfortunately it wasn't caught at the time but was found out later as they had been covering the event with a web camera broadcast and people saw it in the replay, he was also bragging about it to his friends. That's when he got a three year ban from all of the organized events and basically a permaban from our local TO who justifiably dislikes him. Outside of card gaming he's a decent guy but I refuse to play him for any reason as he always cheats even in the most casual of casual games.

To be fair, think that guy definitely needs to see a psychologist, there must be some really mixed up stuff going on in there!

I don't think I've ever seen much cheating in games around my area. I have cheated accidentally myself, once - while playing Malifaux, I mistakenly left the 11 and 13 of tomes in my deck box while playing Ramos. For those who don't know Malifaux, Ramos really, really, REALLY needs high tome cards My opponent and I had a good laugh after the game when we realised that I'd inadvertantly handicapped myself!

-Ben

Best way to cheat: do it blatantly and then whine about how your opponent isn't being "casual" enough if they don't let you get away with it. One example from X-Wing: my opponent stupidly flies his entire a-wing swarm directly at my anti-swarm bomber (Deathrain with proton bombs). I drop a proton bomb right in the middle of them and k-turn behind his whole formation. Now it's his a-wing ace's turn to move, and he clearly bumps one of his own ships, right on top of the bomb. But he tries to argue that it bumps one of the back ships, clear of the bomb. I insist on placing the template and demonstrating that it bumps the front ship, he refuses. I don't let him get away with it, and oh look, it clearly fits where I said it does. A turn later, with his whole squad crippled and his ace dead, he ragequits and declares to everyone that he will never play me again.

Another, older example, from a game a local player was involved in: his opponent flies a ship off the table, but instead of removing the ship says something like "well, what are we going to do about it" as if there's some question about what happens in this case. Local player feels really awkward and pressured, and somehow the judge comes over and agrees that the ship should be able to stay on the table because it wasn't off by very much. And this was in a tournament, not just a random game!

 -Loki- wrote:
I know someone who used to measure from the front of the base to the back of the base, giving himself the base size in extra movement.

I always just reminded him to do front to front. I don't think he did it deliberately to cheat, I just think he didn't see it in the rules and thought you could measure movement any old way.

I am terrible about this. I am very sloppy about measuring.

Typically no one complains because I am terrible at gaming and they are going to stomp me despite my sloppy measuring.

Also, since I have played so many editions of 40K, I tend to get them mixed up a bit in the rules department.

 Phydox wrote:
When I played fantasy, I used a rule to my advantage. In an old skaven army book, the wording for the Warp lightning cannon said if its charged, the unit would always flee as its reaction. It didn't say it had to be a possible successful charge. So every turn I'd declare a charge against it with one of my units, regardless of distance so it could never fire.

6th ed Skaven, with the Ratling Gun o' Stupidity - yeah, I did that myself, against a rules-lawery git of a staff member in my local GW...

...with Dwarfs.

Don't think he knew what was going on to start with when I declared a charge on it with my GW warriors, until I asked him to look carefully in his army book. Cue the guy going off on one, while I just pointed out that them's the rules in the book, so his WLC was gonna have to run off the board.

I'm fairly sure I still lost the game, but that amused me (and most of the people who were around) for the evening.

 Easy E wrote:
Also, since I have played so many editions of 40K, I tend to get them mixed up a bit in the rules department.

This is my #1 problem with MY cheating.
I have played since second edition.
I do not even want to go into how many ways I can mess-up a jink-save without a quick re-study of my "cheat(avoid)-sheet" before a game as well as to avoid applying a 4th or 5th edition rule.
Never mind rules in this codex or "oh wait, was that 2 revisions back??".

 Talizvar wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Also, since I have played so many editions of 40K, I tend to get them mixed up a bit in the rules department.

This is my #1 problem with MY cheating.
I have played since second edition.
I do not even want to go into how many ways I can mess-up a jink-save without a quick re-study of my "cheat(avoid)-sheet" before a game as well as to avoid applying a 4th or 5th edition rule.
Never mind rules in this codex or "oh wait, was that 2 revisions back??".

I swore blind to a guy that his meltavets couldn't regroup as my landraider was within 6 inches.
We checked the rules and nothing at all. When the feth did that restriction lift, and why?