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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 15:30:10
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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What is everyones thought on this?
Can get a cheap psyker for 10 points so a few of them in different units would give you quite a few warp charges and be able to summon daemons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 15:56:26
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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You can do it but generally it is looked down upon for fluff reasons: the inquisition would never look to daemons for help lest they be denounced as heretics.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 16:00:53
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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#cough# daemonhosts.. Automatically Appended Next Post: You'd probably need Coteaz to get enough psykers in play to make it worthwhile.
Also its possible they are restricted from taking maelific.. but its one of those things you can only confirm with the updated Ebook version..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 16:31:58
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Grumpy Longbeard
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You need 5 warp charges to get a 50% chance to cast summoning, not worth it if you don't have more, esp. if daaemons are come the apocalypse allies.
You need 7 charges for summoning to work most of the time. You WILL perils.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 16:34:18
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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HERETIC!
The Daemonhosts are generally used to intergate Daemons not to use them to fight.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 16:43:48
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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DarkBlack wrote:You need 5 warp charges to get a 50% chance to cast summoning, not worth it if you don't have more, esp. if daaemons are come the apocalypse allies.
You need 7 charges for summoning to work most of the time. You WILL perils.
is there anything stopping me from using possession on my inquisition psyker and getting a bloodthirster etc? or sacrifice etc etc. if so that would make inquisition a bit more competitive as they have access to such cheap psykers Automatically Appended Next Post: mrhappyface wrote:You can do it but generally it is looked down upon for fluff reasons: the inquisition would never look to daemons for help lest they be denounced as heretics.
Fluff wise you could say that the inquisitor has gone crazy and succombed to the evils of chaos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 16:54:28
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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champagne_socialist wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
mrhappyface wrote:You can do it but generally it is looked down upon for fluff reasons: the inquisition would never look to daemons for help lest they be denounced as heretics.
Fluff wise you could say that the inquisitor has gone crazy and succombed to the evils of chaos.
Sure, heretic inquisition is a work around... If you, as a loyalist, want to field a chaos army.
Join us...
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 17:52:31
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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is there anything stopping me from using possession on my inquisition psyker and getting a bloodthirster etc?
The fact that they can't take maelific daemonology?
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 18:22:45
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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Drasius wrote:
is there anything stopping me from using possession on my inquisition psyker and getting a bloodthirster etc?
The fact that they can't take maelific daemonology?
thats what i initially thought but reading up on it apparently you can take it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 18:24:22
Subject: Re:summon daemons with Inquisition
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Drasius wrote:
is there anything stopping me from using possession on my inquisition psyker and getting a bloodthirster etc?
The fact that they can't take maelific daemonology?
Grey Knights may not have access to Malefic, but I do not believe codex: Inquisition has that restriction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 18:37:20
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Codex: Inquisition does not allow Inquisitors to take Maelific, as it is not listed on their available psychic powers.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 18:40:42
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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Crazyterran wrote:Codex: Inquisition does not allow Inquisitors to take Maelific, as it is not listed on their available psychic powers.
According to the 7th edition rulebook:
"Unless otherwise stated, all Psykers, other than those belonging to the Tyranids Faction, can generate powers from the Daemonology discipline."
It does not mention anything about Codex: Inquisition in the rulebook, and as there is no FAQ for Inquisition, it is safe to say that any psyker from the Inquisition codex can roll on Malefic or Sanctic Daemonology
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 19:11:50
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Preacher of the Emperor
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champagne_socialist wrote: Crazyterran wrote:Codex: Inquisition does not allow Inquisitors to take Maelific, as it is not listed on their available psychic powers.
According to the 7th edition rulebook:
"Unless otherwise stated, all Psykers, other than those belonging to the Tyranids Faction, can generate powers from the Daemonology discipline."
It does not mention anything about Codex: Inquisition in the rulebook, and as there is no FAQ for Inquisition, it is safe to say that any psyker from the Inquisition codex can roll on Malefic or Sanctic Daemonology
The Codex specifically does not allow Inquisitors or Psykers to access malefic. Edited to remove points costs only.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 19:23:57
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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PanzerLeader wrote:champagne_socialist wrote: Crazyterran wrote:Codex: Inquisition does not allow Inquisitors to take Maelific, as it is not listed on their available psychic powers.
According to the 7th edition rulebook:
"Unless otherwise stated, all Psykers, other than those belonging to the Tyranids Faction, can generate powers from the Daemonology discipline."
It does not mention anything about Codex: Inquisition in the rulebook, and as there is no FAQ for Inquisition, it is safe to say that any psyker from the Inquisition codex can roll on Malefic or Sanctic Daemonology
The Codex specifically does not allow Inquisitors or Psykers to access malefic. Edited to remove points costs only.
this is the confusing part and an example of GW not being clear,
the rulebook states that unless otherwise specifically stated all psykers can take malefic. In C: GK it specifically states that they do not have access to malefic. so is specifically stated meaning that it is specifically prohibited as shown in the GK codex.
Codex inquisition states the powers the psykers have access to but it does not prohibit them from malefic like the GK codex does.
the rulebook states that all psykers can generate powers from malefic. the codex inquisition codex dooes not prohibit inquisition from using malefic, it just doesnt list it as a discipline that the inquisition psykers know, but the 40k rulebook states that inquisition psykers do know that discipline unless something specifically states that they do not eg C GK.
Automatically Appended Next Post: ok just an update, there is an FAQ that SPECIFICALLY states that Inquisition are PROHIBITED from malefic daemon powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/30 20:11:01
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Grumpy Longbeard
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Crazyterran wrote:Codex: Inquisition does not allow Inquisitors to take Maelific, as it is not listed on their available psychic powers.
Neither does Codex Chaos Daemons. Only 7th ed codex's would, which is why the rulebook states that anyone, save Grey Knights can take it. Automatically Appended Next Post: champagne_socialist wrote: DarkBlack wrote:You need 5 warp charges to get a 50% chance to cast summoning, not worth it if you don't have more, esp. if daaemons are come the apocalypse allies.
You need 7 charges for summoning to work most of the time. You WILL perils.
is there anything stopping me from using possession on my inquisition psyker and getting a bloodthirster etc? or sacrifice etc etc. if so that would make inquisition a bit more competitive as they have access to such cheap psykers.
Unless there is a rule prohibiting taking Malefic, you just have to roll a 6 on the table. I usually have 8 rolls on Malefic and I don't always get it.
Note that you perils if you fail to cast possession.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 01:02:55
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Preacher of the Emperor
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@dark black: By that logic, Eldar can still roll malefic. They have a specific list of disciplines they can access and malefic is not among them. Just like inquisition has a specific list and malefic is not among them. I screenshoted it above. The specificity of the Codex trumps the BRB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 01:26:23
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Dakka Veteran
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PanzerLeader wrote:@dark black: By that logic, Eldar can still roll malefic. They have a specific list of disciplines they can access and malefic is not among them. Just like inquisition has a specific list and malefic is not among them. I screenshoted it above. The specificity of the Codex trumps the BRB.
I dont know about eldar but the inquisition had a FAQ where it states in the FAQ that inq cannot get malefic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/01 13:45:23
Subject: summon daemons with Inquisition
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think you need to read between the lines. The rulebook says you can take Malefic if not specifically restricted otherwise, but that was clearly a blanket statement at the start of 7th in order to update everybody at once. Subsequent releases (Eldar) and updates (Inquisition) which state Daemonology (Sanctic) clearly indicate that they have access to Sanctic only and not Malefic. Why else would it state that?
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