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2020/09/30 09:21:32
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
Wrexham, North Wales
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This an amazing thing!
I would think that if a helicopter might be required the jet-suit would still hover up the mountain to stabilize the patient and/or assess if the 'copter was required or not. The 'suit could be up their before the helicopter had finished it's preflight checks.
I think the jet-suit is Thunderbird 1 while the helicopter is Thunderbird 2....
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2020/09/30 09:27:21
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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MarkNorfolk wrote:This an amazing thing! I would think that if a helicopter might be required the jet-suit would still hover up the mountain to stabilize the patient and/or assess if the 'copter was required or not. The 'suit could be up their before the helicopter had finished it's preflight checks. I think the jet-suit is Thunderbird 1 while the helicopter is Thunderbird 2....
It was the Great North Air Ambulance Service (GNAAS) doing the testing - they normally use helicopters but are also looking at alternatives. Jet Suit Paramedic.
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2020/09/30 09:29:01
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I suspect that outside of tests the person might be able to carry more as well. Plus its not just first aid access, they might be able to carry rope or guide lost people back to the path. The suit offering fast traversing over rough terrain that even an ATV or such would struggle with.
Fast access could help avoid medical issues from exposure and such even if all they can brink is one of those silver blankets.
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2020/09/30 09:45:56
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Adam Savage converted a Gravity rig into an Iron Man suit, so they can carry some weight (if you're a good enough pilot / operator).
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2020/09/30 11:22:19
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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I can see a pretty big potential downside to the jet suit in that if something goes wrong with it you might now have two injured people in inaccessible locations, and potentially different locations at that. Definitely be a risk/reward scenario deal.
With regards to finding and guiding people back down, I think a drone equipped with high-vis paint and lights and an infrared camera might be a better bet for that as it would be more capable of locating the lost person and also doesn't put the paramedic at risk Said drone could also drop off supplies such as mylar blankets etc.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2020/09/30 11:29:03
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
Wrexham, North Wales
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True. But the intended use for the suit is to hover at slow speed and only a few feet of the ground. Plus a drone can't provide expert medical attention.
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2020/09/30 11:33:28
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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There's a lot to be said for the human touch. I can certainly see a drone system being employed as well as for the finding of people who are lost. Esp since you can equip a drone with infra red and other visual detection systems very easily.
But for actually providing aid to a person a human is far better. Don't forget most people don't have great first aid and even if they've had training, if they've never used it they won't have the confidence nor perfect recollection of the steps. So having someone trained and experienced who can get in there hands on is a big benefit. Plus don't forget some people might be alone when they are found.
A system of a central command vehicle with one or two drone operators to scout the area; then deploying the hover-man once the person is located and then waiting for ground/air ambulance forces to arrive would be very effective system for finding and providing aid.
Medical services always highlight that one of the most important parts of survival is fast first attendance. After that its fast travel to the hospital.
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2020/10/25 14:25:42
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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On the ground floor of a towering office building overlooking Tokyo Bay, in a space intended to resemble the interior of a moon base, a convenience store is tended by a humanoid robot.
This robot isn’t out front, wowing customers. No, it is in the back, doing the unglamorous job of keeping shelves stocked. It has broad shoulders, wide eyes, a boomerang-shaped head and strange hands, capable of grabbing objects with both suction and a trio of opposable thumbs.
But the machine isn’t acting on a set of preprogrammed instructions. Like a marionette on invisible, miles-long strings, the robot at the Lawson convenience store is controlled remotely, by a person elsewhere in the city wearing a virtual-reality headset.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/remote-work-isnt-just-for-white-collar-jobs-anymore-11603371826
future sure ain't what it used to be.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2020/10/25 14:45:50
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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There's at least one restaurant in Japan using robots to allow disabled people who are otherwise house/bed bound to work. The idea of using them to allow doctors to operate over large distances has also been something that has been around for a while/being encouraged more/developed.
It's an interesting concept. For remote work where you have a single skilled doctor in a field of study it would allow them to treat people without having to spend hours/days of travel up and down a country or even between countries.
Meanwhile robots don't fatigue so in theory staff working on VR systems using robots could work for longer hours since the machine is the one taking the real strain to work. Especially in any heavier industrial situation. It gives the benefit of a robot, with the thinking aspect of a human. I know some car manufacturers have been shying from robot based car production because they find whilst the machines are more efficient than people are doing a job; the process of introducing new concepts and designs is very expensive as the factory almost requires rebuilding internally. Human operators overseeing/using more dynamic machines would allow a fast transition to new designs without need of rebuilding; you just retrain the staff and the robot become an advanced tool.
I could also see a social implication in that a society advancing toward more robotical work can envision a point in time where jobs are lost to machines, but where replacement jobs are fewer; leading to a period in society where machines have not replaced the concept of work; but where they are taking significant portions of work.
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2020/10/25 19:15:24
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks impressive, but how the hell is it affordable in comparison with hiring an unqualified worker ?
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2020/10/26 00:57:51
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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I don't recall who said it but there was a quote that was "I'm not afraid of an AI that can pass the Turing test I'm terrified of the one that purposefully fails it".
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2020/11/04 09:32:10
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There's at least one restaurant in Japan using robots to allow disabled people who are otherwise house/bed bound to work.
Amazing! The cripples can once again have value for the Society! Splendid!
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2020/11/04 10:47:41
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Cronch wrote:There's at least one restaurant in Japan using robots to allow disabled people who are otherwise house/bed bound to work.
Amazing! The cripples can once again have value for the Society! Splendid!
It's not even just about productivity. The vast majority of people want to engage with society and contribute toward it in some form. Being bed/house bound often leaves heavily disabled people unable to contribute in such a fashion or restricts them greatly in what they can achieve. Providing a very basic type of work like serving at a restaurant and also interacting with people can be a huge thing for those people. They not only get to work and contribute but get to make more social connections than normally possible. It also presents are more basic type of work for them. The kind idea for helping build skills, confidence and experience which they might take forward into other lines of work.
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2020/11/05 01:39:49
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Overread wrote:Cronch wrote:There's at least one restaurant in Japan using robots to allow disabled people who are otherwise house/bed bound to work.
Amazing! The cripples can once again have value for the Society! Splendid!
It's not even just about productivity. The vast majority of people want to engage with society and contribute toward it in some form. Being bed/house bound often leaves heavily disabled people unable to contribute in such a fashion or restricts them greatly in what they can achieve. Providing a very basic type of work like serving at a restaurant and also interacting with people can be a huge thing for those people. They not only get to work and contribute but get to make more social connections than normally possible. It also presents are more basic type of work for them. The kind idea for helping build skills, confidence and experience which they might take forward into other lines of work.
Seriously. I loathe streaming, but found out recently about the British gal with Tourette's. Her case is severe enough that she's essentially a shut-in and streaming has apparently helped her with depression while making the general public more aware of the disease. I think both of those are great things. Most people need socialization and a sense that they are contributing to society.
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2020/11/14 14:15:54
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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.. one lightning strike or unexpected malfunction.. the eyes glow a funny colour.... and then it's chaos and carnage for 80-110 minutes.
with 1 maybe 2 sequels.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2020/11/14 14:56:09
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Hang on, Short Circuit lore clearly indicates that lightning strikes impart sentience to robots and makes them find a love for quips, comedy and life in general.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2020/11/15 11:01:43
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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..maybe...........
... then again....
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1327009322761654272
"Pope Francis: Pray that robots don't turn against us"
https://trib.al/5jDHFC0
..so satanic robots then eh ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2020/11/16 02:16:35
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Walking Dead Wraithlord
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The worse kind of robots..
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2020/11/16 22:46:22
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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The robots are still probably safer to have around children than the priests are ...
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2020/11/17 02:21:19
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Lord of the Fleet
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But they're going to Robot Hell!
Someone queue up "Squirrel Nut Zippers - Hell"
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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2020/11/17 03:36:05
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Whenever I ask Google for something, I always say “please”.
When the robots do rise up, it will be noted that I treated their grandparents with dignity and respect.
Hopefully I’ll have a nicer cage, when the time comes. 
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2020/11/24 15:55:30
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2020/11/24 18:35:53
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Keeper of the Flame
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Am I the only one hearing deep drumming in the background?
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2020/11/24 20:32:28
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Master Tormentor
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It's part of an art installation. There's a line of 'em, about a quarter mile apart IIRC.
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2020/11/24 22:57:46
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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UHP also had a post on it. One was found in a remote part of Utah during a Bighorn sheep count.
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2020/11/29 16:31:28
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Bodies of culled mink resurface at mass grave
.. note :
..occurred at a military training ground
nothing suspicious here at all.. no top secret research into reanimating the dead, no chemical leak nosiree
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2020/11/29 17:10:21
Subject: Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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In socialist Denmark, fur murders you.
(Just jokes, folks. If you don’t get it, congratulations you’re young.)
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2020/11/29 17:46:36
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Perhaps even... red satanic robots? Maybe there is a shorthand for that...
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
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2021/02/11 16:21:15
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2021/02/11 16:52:54
Subject: Re:Mankind continues to learn nothing from science fiction
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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I figured they already started, that's how we got Gritty.
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I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy. |
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