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Michigan

1 - Exalted Deathbringer
1 - Skullgrinder
1 - Mighty Lord of Khorne
1 - Khorgorath
1 - Bloodstoker
1 - Bloodsecrator
1 - Skarr Bloodwrath
2 - Slaughterpriest (one of each model)
3 - Mighty Skullcrushers
5 - Wrathmongers
15- Blood Warriors
40- Bloodreavers


The list above is what I just picked up a few days ago. They came from the starter box, the Khorne Bloodbound expansion, and I picked up the extra single models just to have them, along with the physical book (because I'm a sucker for physical copies). I normally play 40k, but after reading about AoS I got really excited about the rules and the units in the Khorne Bloodbound army, so here we are.

Now for the questions
  • Is this a decent base to start playing AoS with, or an I missing anything blatantly obvious?

  • I have a general battle plan set up in my head that I'm excited to field, but what would you do with these forces if they were all that you had? Have any good tips for these units/this army?

  • I'm planning on adding in some Khorne Daemons at some point, but otherwise I won't be dipping into anything other than Bloodbound and Khorne Daemons. What type, and how many daemons should I pick up to start with? And how do Bloodbound/Daemons hybrid armies fair against the rest of the AoS cast?

  • I know the people I'll be playing with will be seasoned Fantasy players, and will most likely have huge armies full of stuff I know nothing about. Do you think it would be worth it to study the old army PDF warscrolls in advance if I'm only playing to have a few laughs and make a few friends?

  • On that note, is this a super tiny force compared to a typical Fantasy force? Does it really matter in AoS if I bring a small army, because of the sudden death rules? I know they're there and what they are, but are they really feasible to pull of in a real game? What kind of sudden death conditions are best for this army?


  • Ok, I know that the answers to these questions could fill a book (and most of them I'll learn over time), but as a new player (and one that's pretty excited to get into the game) I can't help but toss them out there. Please answer as many, or as little as you want. Thanks in advance!

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    First off, in terms of a Khorne list you have a very well rounded army that is more than enough to play AoS with. The best advice I can give is to play games then see what enemies you are having trouble with/what units you want more of. Your force is diverse enough and big enough that tactic advice would really have to be based on what was across the board. Khorne is pretty much deploy & run towards the enemy, the nuance comes in with who charges what and where your support units are.

    Don't bother studying old warscrolls in a vacuum, because they wont tell you a whole lot in terms of how they may or may not cause problems for you. Instead, get the AoS app then look over your opponent's warscrolls as he deploys them. A given warscroll is small enough that this only adds 5-10ish minutes to the whole game, and chances are you'll get a good grasp of what your opponent's generally field pretty quick.

    Also what comp will you be using (if any)? This will affect a lot of the answers.

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    Michigan

    I don't want to play any comp to be honest. I like the rules as written as they remind me of different pen and paper games I've played over the years, and I wasn't a Fantasy player so I don't have anything to desire from an old system.

    Thanks for the reply! I'll have to get some games in once I piece all these models together to get a better grasp on what I should do moving forward.

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    Answers to Questions:
    •Is this a decent base to start playing AoS with, or an I missing anything blatantly obvious?

    It looks great. I would check out the Grand Alliance Chaos book to get an idea of what other chaos forces are out there that work well with Khorne Bloodbound. Slaves to Darkness can take a mark of khorne, so can Archaon and his Varanguard. If you want faster troops, slaves to darkness have chariots and chaos knights and mounted marauders.

    The only thing you are really lacking is a super-large monster/hero, i.e. chaos lord on manticore, dragon rider, Archaon, Skarbrand, etc.

    •I have a general battle plan set up in my head that I'm excited to field, but what would you do with these forces if they were all that you had? Have any good tips for these units/this army?

    I tend to do rank+ file, heroes block, rank+file
    i.e. regular troops on left and right flanks, heroes in middle

    •I'm planning on adding in some Khorne Daemons at some point, but otherwise I won't be dipping into anything other than Bloodbound and Khorne Daemons. What type, and how many daemons should I pick up to start with? And how do Bloodbound/Daemons hybrid armies fair against the rest of the AoS cast?

    Take the ones you like. Daemons do ok. Flesh Hounds are fast and can counter enemy spell casters. Bloodletters are slower but hit harder. Blood Thirsters, such as Skarbrand, really hit hard.

    •I know the people I'll be playing with will be seasoned Fantasy players, and will most likely have huge armies full of stuff I know nothing about. Do you think it would be worth it to study the old army PDF warscrolls in advance if I'm only playing to have a few laughs and make a few friends?

    If you know what army they are going to bring, you could always read ahead.

    •On that note, is this a super tiny force compared to a typical Fantasy force? Does it really matter in AoS if I bring a small army, because of the sudden death rules? I know they're there and what they are, but are they really feasible to pull of in a real game? What kind of sudden death conditions are best for this army?

    So you have 72 models. Lets figure that is 13-18 units of troops depending on how many models of blood warriors and blood reavers per unit (9 heroes plus 4-9 units).

    That's a significant sized army. Obviously, some groups will play with more forces than this, others might play with smaller forces (the equivalent of the starter set).

    Sudden Death conditions will depend on your opponents army as much as your own. If you combine all 15 blood warriors in a single unit, that would be your most durable unit. None of your heroes are all that survivable -- the Mighty Lord of Khorne is the most durable, but you really want him to be in melee, which reduces his life expectancy.




       
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    Michigan

    endur wrote:
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    Thank you for such an in-depth answer. I picked up these models today to add to my list a bit based on your suggestions.

    1 - Skarbrand (this guy looks insanely useful)
    3 - Mighty Skullcrusher (giving me a unit of 5, and one to convert into a Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut)
    10- Blood Warriors (giving me two units of 10, and 5 legs to convert the extra parts from the skull reavers/wrathmongers kit into my first 5 skull reavers)
    5 - Wrathmongers (giving me a unit of 10, or two units of 5. I LOVE these guys)
    20- Bloodravers (putting me up to 3 units of 20 for the Blood Feast detachment if I decide to field it)
    1 - Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut (because of the extra Skullcrusher. I'll probably use pieces from my extra Skarr Bloodwrath to bring him out)
    1 - Skarr Bloodwrath (I'll never run two, so this guy is conversion fodder)


    I'm excited to be able to field a unit of Skullcrushers and LoKoJ in case I need mobile units. Having Skarbrand as something to put on the table to face players with huge stuff is awesome. And the extra unit of Wrathmongers will be awesome to run with the units of Bloodreavers (that will move up the table in a sideways "C" formation to allow the extra attacks for only the Bloodreavers). And two units of ten Blood Warriors will be my front line to soften up the enemies for my reavers.

    I'm really excited to get a game under my belt! Thanks for the tips guys.

    edited for clarity and typos, because cellphones...

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