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2016/07/06 13:55:02
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p39 Blood Angels
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/06 14:05:14
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2016/07/06 13:57:20
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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You forgot DA and Harlies 
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2016/07/06 14:02:35
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Dakka Veteran
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I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
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Twinkle, Twinkle little star.
I ran over your Wave Serpents with my car. |
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2016/07/06 14:04:41
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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No FAQs have had point changes so far, I don't know why anyone would imagine there would be some in this FAQ.
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2016/07/06 14:05:47
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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 NorseSig wrote:I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
I'm glad they didn't. I don't feel this is the place to alter points values. Next codex though, I fully expect it.
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2016/07/06 14:20:53
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm glad they clarified Trueborn can be used as Warriors in formations that specify warriors. May have to rewrite some lists. 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/06 14:21:46
Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm  (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow  (less)
Plus other games- miniature and cardboard both. |
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2016/07/06 16:00:40
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p39 Blood Angels
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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 2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
 1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2016/07/06 16:03:26
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Thank god the warp spider flicker jump nightmare is over being once per turn.
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2016/07/06 16:06:55
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tough break for Dark Eldar's one good trick of leadership penalties.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2016/07/06 16:15:04
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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BossJakadakk wrote: NorseSig wrote:I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
I'm glad they didn't. I don't feel this is the place to alter points values. Next codex though, I fully expect it.
I've said it before and I feel now's a good time to say it again. Points increases are a bad idea for GW and the players. It means the players don't get to field as many models and that sells less for GW. What we should hope for instead are Stat Decreases. Make the WK only have 5 wounds and come stock with the shoulder weapons for a total 330pts. Make Windriders only have 4+ armour. Stuff like that. Glad to see Flicker jump fixed. It never made sense to me that suck a mediocre unit was so tournament worth. --
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2016/07/06 16:18:48
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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 Galef wrote:BossJakadakk wrote: NorseSig wrote:I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
I'm glad they didn't. I don't feel this is the place to alter points values. Next codex though, I fully expect it.
I've said it before and I feel now's a good time to say it again. Points increases are a bad idea for GW and the players. It means the players don't get to field as many models and that sells less for GW.
What we should hope for instead are Stat Decreases. Make the WK only have 5 wounds and come stock with the shoulder weapons for a total 330pts. Make Windriders only have 4+ armour. Stuff like that.
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Also seems fine.
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2016/07/06 16:23:11
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Galef wrote:BossJakadakk wrote: NorseSig wrote:I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
I'm glad they didn't. I don't feel this is the place to alter points values. Next codex though, I fully expect it.
I've said it before and I feel now's a good time to say it again. Points increases are a bad idea for GW and the players. It means the players don't get to field as many models and that sells less for GW.
What we should hope for instead are Stat Decreases. Make the WK only have 5 wounds and come stock with the shoulder weapons for a total 330pts. Make Windriders only have 4+ armour. Stuff like that.
Glad to see Flicker jump fixed. It never made sense to me that suck a mediocre unit was so tournament worth.
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It might be bad for GW financially but good for games. There's big problem in that while army size has gone up board sizes haven't. Standard size is still 6'x4' same as in 2nd ed. Model count is how much bigger?
Same board, more models=less room for manouvering=less tactics.
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2016/07/06 16:25:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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tneva82 wrote: Galef wrote:BossJakadakk wrote: NorseSig wrote:I wish they would have errata'd the cost of WK to be 100+ points more and jetbikes to be 5 to 10 points more a piece, and scatterlasers on bikes to be 20 to 25 points.
I'm glad they didn't. I don't feel this is the place to alter points values. Next codex though, I fully expect it.
I've said it before and I feel now's a good time to say it again. Points increases are a bad idea for GW and the players. It means the players don't get to field as many models and that sells less for GW.
What we should hope for instead are Stat Decreases. Make the WK only have 5 wounds and come stock with the shoulder weapons for a total 330pts. Make Windriders only have 4+ armour. Stuff like that.
Glad to see Flicker jump fixed. It never made sense to me that suck a mediocre unit was so tournament worth.
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It might be bad for GW financially but good for games. There's big problem in that while army size has gone up board sizes haven't. Standard size is still 6'x4' same as in 2nd ed. Model count is how much bigger?
Same board, more models=less room for manouvering=less tactics.
Isn't one of the most common complaints about 7th the inclusion of superheavies leading to less models = less decisions = less tactics?
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2016/07/06 17:11:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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Glad to see the Trueborn clarification, but does that errata mean that Freakish spectacle from mutliple detachments doesn't stack anymore?
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2016/07/06 17:18:51
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Imateria wrote:does that errata mean that Freakish spectacle from mutliple detachments doesn't stack anymore?
Yes, they do not any longer.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2016/07/06 17:29:07
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Justice!
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2016/07/06 17:38:41
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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A bit annoying that though I've noticed that more often than not it's things like the Mask of Secrets and Armour of Misery that people want the Freakish Spectacle to stack with.
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2016/07/06 17:40:23
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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So who is left for updates? Grey Knights, Tau, AM, Necrons, Sisters, Orks, daemons, and then finally Chaos?
*sigh....* Two months?
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2016/07/06 17:43:09
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Imateria wrote:Glad to see the Trueborn clarification, but does that errata mean that Freakish spectacle from mutliple detachments doesn't stack anymore?
Hold the phone though. RAW, Covenite Coterie detachments don't stack Freakish Spectacle. The various formations are *not* Covenite Coterie detachments, so those should still stack Freakish Spectacle. Right? I know that may not be RAI, but  GW has nerfed DE enough in these stupid FAQs, so forgive me if I stick with the interpretation more charitable to a marginal army.
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2016/07/06 17:44:10
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:So who is left for updates? Grey Knights, Tau, AM, Necrons, Sisters, Orks, daemons, and then finally Chaos?
*sigh....* Two months?
I have a feeling chaos is last mostly because we have a major chaos update soon with warzone fenris part 2.
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2016/07/06 17:46:34
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Nightlord1987 wrote:So who is left for updates? Grey Knights, Tau, AM, Necrons, Sisters, Orks, daemons, and then finally Chaos?
*sigh....* Two months?
Sisters have already been FAQed.
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2016/07/06 17:58:03
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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 Gene St. Ealer wrote: Nightlord1987 wrote:So who is left for updates? Grey Knights, Tau, AM, Necrons, Sisters, Orks, daemons, and then finally Chaos?
*sigh....* Two months?
Sisters have already been FAQed.
And depending on the size of the FAQs, Daemons and CSM may be rolled into one release as well, since all the Eldar came out today as one. Given the amount of time they've had to work through these, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a couple more 2 army releases.
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2016/07/06 18:03:21
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nightlord1987 wrote:So who is left for updates? Grey Knights, Tau, AM, Necrons, Sisters, Orks, daemons, and then finally Chaos?
*sigh....* Two months?
Tyranids too.
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Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
Plus other games- miniature and cardboard both. |
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2016/07/06 18:08:44
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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My money is on Tau next week. Don't know why, just a guess.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2016/07/06 18:37:59
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Me too. Runner up would be Necrons.
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2016/07/06 18:56:25
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Come on..... BS 3 Orks ERRATA !!!! 
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2016/07/06 19:02:54
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Tyranids are so spread out through so many books that they're probably the hardest to FAQ.
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2016/07/06 19:09:14
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Gargantuan Gargant
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The biggest Tyranid thing I feel needs to be FAQed is the instinctive fire rule on the Tyrannocyte and Sporocyst. The White Drawf leads you to believe it works like shooting the nearest target in line of sight of each gun, like a Space Marine Drop Pod would, but being a monstrous creature and not a vehicle it has 360 degree line of sight.
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2016/07/06 19:21:46
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Well... the DE FAQ&Errata was disappointing... precisely feth all tweaked. Like the Archon having next to bugger all weapon options. Seriously! They're the army commander! 
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2016/07/06 19:38:58
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 FAQ Draft p44 Eldar all types
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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 angelofvengeance wrote:Well... the DE FAQ&Errata was disappointing... precisely feth all tweaked. Like the Archon having next to bugger all weapon options. Seriously! They're the army commander!
Honestly there wasn't much to FAQ. A codex needs nuance and detail in order for it to be complex enough for much of a FAQ
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