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harkequin wrote:

They also need to errata it so that you can embark on a zooming flier somehow

Not really. The rules state that you can't embark on a zooming flyer unless stated otherwise.

The FAQ states otherwise.


GW have a poor track record for keeping errata in the errata section.

 insaniak wrote:

harkequin wrote:

They also need to errata it so that you can embark on a zooming flier somehow

Not really. The rules state that you can't embark on a zooming flyer unless stated otherwise.

The FAQ states otherwise.


GW have a poor track record for keeping errata in the errata section.

Checked BRB, you are correct. "unless otherwise stated" so the FAQ is fine, could have been clearer but its usable

 Crazyterran wrote:
The Chaos daemons FAQ is as long as the rest of the put together, I'm sure.

It certainly could be. There is allot a conflicting information in the codex seeing as then decided to just staple the new psychic lore tables, formations , rewards, war lord traits, etc to the back of the codex rather than say which parts over write which.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Tyrannocyte fire arcs finally cleared up. Nerf imo :(

Hardly. That's a pretty sensible judgement there. Even Tyranids have a limit to their range of muscle movements. Venom cannons are pretty nasty.

Sorry but I think you're reading it wrong. RAW for MCs are that they don't need to be facing a target to shoot at it. "If in doubt" means if you're not sure what's closer, pretend it's a vehicle gun.

In other other words, measure from each gun, shoot unit closest to that gun. If you're not sure which of two units is closer, the closer one is the one a vehicle could shoot if the gun was in the same location mounted on a vehicle.

daemons this week !

So they still don't address the Bloodthirster D weapon being different wording from the Knight D weapon, despite being the same keyword. Sigh. Glaring omission.

And I even put up a request about that, and there were multiple locked threads about it here. It's clearly an issue. Currently makes Blade of Blood overpowered and the D-axe weakened (as compared to a Knight's D-weapon).

I'm not up to date on that problem what's the issue with it?

One base of Nurglings in a unit can throw a defensive grenade in their Shooting phase (though it's best not to think too hard about precisely what it is they're throwing).

gungo wrote:
I'm not up to date on that problem what's the issue with it?

Knight says (bit of paraphrasing) a model attacking with this rule attacks at I1
Bloodthirster says a model with this rule attacks at I1

Big difference. The rule (I forgot the exact name) is the same rule name, but with omitted words in the demon book.

I'm sorry I'm not seeing the difference at least the way you wrote it.
Niether makes the model Int 1 outside of the assault phase ( they are still base int for other rules)
Nor is either weapon based but model based
They both read to me they attack in the assault phase at int 1 regardless.
I'm sure there is something I'm missing though if it's that big an issue though.

Feel free to ask again on the comments they said in the last faq they are answering additional questions

Heh, Nurglings can throw dirty bombs.

It's been tackled in YMDC, and got locked with no side agreeing. Again, one says the model just has to have it. The other says only while attacking. Go back a couple pages into YMDC and you'll be able to find it. I'm on a phone, so searching it out is a bit of trouble.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
It's been tackled in YMDC, and got locked with no side agreeing. Again, one says the model just has to have it. The other says only while attacking. Go back a couple pages into YMDC and you'll be able to find it. I'm on a phone, so searching it out is a bit of trouble.

It did get answered in a way in the Harlequin draft FAQ:

So, we're talking about Daemons. I am quite dumb about them, however, those Exalted Flamers of Tzeenech or whatever. I fought them recently, and they were 75 points for their 4t/4s/3w + theyre jetbikes + theyre level 1 psykers + theyre heralds? (Wtf is a herald?)

Is this true? If so, why dont peoplejust being a ton of them? lol...

Arkengate wrote:
So, we're talking about Daemons. I am quite dumb about them, however, those Exalted Flamers of Tzeenech or whatever. I fought them recently, and they were 75 points for their 4t/4s/3w + theyre jetbikes + theyre level 1 psykers + theyre heralds? (Wtf is a herald?)

Is this true? If so, why dont peoplejust being a ton of them? lol...

I don't really know where to begin. I think you are talking about Heralds of Tzeentch, which are Psykers (that can be upgraded to ML3) and can be mounted on Jetbikes, and people do spam them, but they are well over 100pts kitted out properly. And they are only T4 when on bike and only have 2 Wounds
Exalted Flamers are a completely different unit. If you played against those, they were Infantry (FAQ has now made them "Jump") and those are 3 wounds.

Either you are grossly mis-remembering stats, or your opponent lied

 Ghaz wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
It's been tackled in YMDC, and got locked with no side agreeing. Again, one says the model just has to have it. The other says only while attacking. Go back a couple pages into YMDC and you'll be able to find it. I'm on a phone, so searching it out is a bit of trouble.

It did get answered in a way in the Harlequin draft FAQ:

EDIT: I found it in the BRB FAQ (ya know the one that came out about 2 months ago)

"Q: Do weapon special rules that say ‘a model equipped with this weapon’ or ‘this weapon’s bearer’ take effect even when not used as the attacking weapon?
A: Yes."

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Holy gak, they gave Daemons back Psychic Focus. While not huge, that is a big boon.

Huh the Errata on allowing Daemons to generate all their powers from the updated lores was a unexpected way of fixing it (making it tied to the new Super Detachment).

Overall I'm happy with this FaQ. I can't think of any obviously missed questions and the answers don't seem pants-on-head stupid or contradictory with the written rules.

It's good to know that I get both Chaos and Psychic Focus, even if the Daemon Primaris powers aren't that good (besides Stream of Corruption. AP3 Flamer templates are always a good thing to have).

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
(besides Stream of Corruption. AP3 Flamer templates are always a good thing to have).

Agreed!

Yea, possession explicitly allows the "fancy" bloodthirsters!

I don't really know where to begin. I think you are talking about Heralds of Tzeentch, which are Psykers (that can be upgraded to ML3) and can be mounted on Jetbikes, and people do spam them, but they are well over 100pts kitted out properly. And they are only T4 when on bike and only have 2 Wounds
Exalted Flamers are a completely different unit. If you played against those, they were Infantry (FAQ has now made them "Jump") and those are 3 wounds.

Either you are grossly mis-remembering stats, or your opponent lied

i remember last night playing vs him, he didnt have a list (that wasnt hand written) and it said Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch.
It had 4 toughness, 3 wounds. It had a Torrent ability that was a template. It was 50 points in the Curse of the Wulfen book, but he also said they were "riding discs, which makes them jetbikes" and had the herald upgrade to make them Psykers level 1, at 75 points each. He brought 10 of them for 750 points. He was using them in a formation along with a Demon to get +1 to all fire rolls.

Unfortunately, I don't have all the books sitting around to find the stats/find out how he did them. I cant even really find Curse of the wulfen on battlescribe :-(
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Well, I'm pretty happy with the FAQ. I don't get why they would Errata the God specific Psychic Disciplines that way. So if you don't take the detachment then you can still only roll 1/2 your powers + you get psychic focus. But you still roll on the new 7 power Charts rather than the old 4 power ones. Well at least now we can get psychic focus on the Rule book powers, that's a solid bonus.

Arkengate wrote:
I don't really know where to begin. I think you are talking about Heralds of Tzeentch, which are Psykers (that can be upgraded to ML3) and can be mounted on Jetbikes, and people do spam them, but they are well over 100pts kitted out properly. And they are only T4 when on bike and only have 2 Wounds
Exalted Flamers are a completely different unit. If you played against those, they were Infantry (FAQ has now made them "Jump") and those are 3 wounds.

Either you are grossly mis-remembering stats, or your opponent lied

i remember last night playing vs him, he didnt have a list (that wasnt hand written) and it said Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch.
It had 4 toughness, 3 wounds. It had a Torrent ability that was a template. It was 50 points in the Curse of the Wulfen book, but he also said they were "riding discs, which makes them jetbikes" and had the herald upgrade to make them Psykers level 1, at 75 points each. He brought 10 of them for 750 points. He was using them in a formation along with a Demon to get +1 to all fire rolls.

Unfortunately, I don't have all the books sitting around to find the stats/find out how he did them. I cant even really find Curse of the wulfen on battlescribe :-(
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You've had the codex for a few days now, and you might have a few questions. The Deathwatch is a very distinctive army, with units composed in unique ways and with access to more kit than usual. If there's anything that you're unsure about, post your questions below, and we'll send them on to our rules guys.

We'll be sure to post up the Draft FAQ before it's official too, so you can all give us your thoughts before any new rules are made official.

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Here's hoping Shotguns + Bolters can still be legit.

Made sure to ask about the Stalker Boltgun/Banebolts of Eryxia dilemma.

I posted quite a few inquiries. Currently the top comment, and I asked about Bolters/Shotguns. Here's hoping for replies within the next week or two.

I asked about the Stalker Banebolts issue, asked for them to update Kill Team Cassius to be compatible with the new Codex (add Mission Tactics, have the respective units count as their unit type for the purposes of Formations). I also asked if it was intentional for the base configuration for Veterans to not be able to be built with the Kill Team kit.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Here's hoping Shotguns + Bolters can still be legit.

Does it require conversion or *gasp* 3rd party accessories? Then I'd say it's unlikely to remain. No models no rules!

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Here's hoping Shotguns + Bolters can still be legit.

How is it even a question?
Deathwatch Veterans have a boltgun
Deathwatch Veterans Can exchange a boltgun for a shotgun

Deathwatch Veterans also have a CCW.
Deathwatch Veterans can exchange a CCW for a Boltgun

There is no double-swap here. If they rule that bolter+shotgun is illegal, they are also ruling that shotgun + power weapon is illegal since the ranged and melee weapon lists use the same verbiage.
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What's iffy is stalker bolter plus shotgun (or any combination of two choices from the special list) as that would require you to swap your CCW for a bolter then swap your shiny new bolter for something.

Of course if they say that doesn't work they also say that codex bikers can't have special weapons either.

Agreed, Rose.

I made a point to indicate this same process is also how Space Marine Bikes get upgrades as well, in hopes of them realizing it's clearly legal.