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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Hm, it seems we have different definitions of a horde army so I'll leave it at that.

Edit: After checking it doesn't look like that claim is true anyway.

You had 3 destruction armies with at least 80 infantry models, you had 3 chaos armies with at least 50 infantry models, and you had the hordiest version of ironjawz allegience you can possibly run. It's not quite half to be sure but that's a fair chunk of armies running big swaths of models.

We must have different definitions of horde armies, mine is 'A large number of models that is not so large the game slows down to a crawl.'

ERJAK wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Hm, it seems we have different definitions of a horde army so I'll leave it at that.

Edit: After checking it doesn't look like that claim is true anyway.

You had 3 destruction armies with at least 80 infantry models, you had 3 chaos armies with at least 50 infantry models, and you had the hordiest version of ironjawz allegience you can possibly run. It's not quite half to be sure but that's a fair chunk of armies running big swaths of models.

We must have different definitions of horde armies, mine is 'A large number of models that is not so large the game slows down to a crawl.'

80 models is not a horde army. I use to run 300+ zombies and 80+ ghouls. Or 3 units of 100-200 slaves and a unit or 2 or 80-100 clan rats.

I mean tbf it's a bit disingenuous to compare WHFB army sizes with AoS, given everything in AoS costs more in points than they ever would of in Fantasy (except Behemoth Heroes).

Back in the WHFB days most Tournaments were 2400+ pts and most core infantry were less than 10 ppm.

In AoS terms any army with over 100 models could be considered a horde army. The player who came fourth in heat one was using more than 100 skeletons. A top 5 player in the lvo was using a chaos army with more than 100 models. In the first game shown on warhammer TV yesterday there was a huge grot army and pretty big flesh eaters army (which the grots won).
Some of the best combos in AoS at the moment involve a mix of powerful behemoths and big units of cheap infantry.
What is encouraging so far is that we have seen a lot of different types of armies win tournaments. If the ghb 2 can tweak a few of the obviously op units (stormfiends, kurnoth hunters etc) aos will be in a pretty good place going forward.

Smellingsalts wrote:
I believe that Games Workshop has purposely under-costed the large models to insure that they are included in most armies. I think that they believe that large models look great on the table and draw new players to the game, and I agree with them on that.

Ironically this isn't 100% GW, they based their current points off one of the tournament scene's point scheme's and those had a bit of iffy points for some monsters.

But not all monsters are under this, nobody would say the Fyreslayers have cheap monsters to say the least! Most of the issue comes with the stupidly strong Monsters, like Beastclaws really good ones.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Smellingsalts wrote:
I believe that Games Workshop has purposely under-costed the large models to insure that they are included in most armies. I think that they believe that large models look great on the table and draw new players to the game, and I agree with them on that.

Ironically this isn't 100% GW, they based their current points off one of the tournament scene's point scheme's and those had a bit of iffy points for some monsters.

But not all monsters are under this, nobody would say the Fyreslayers have cheap monsters to say the least! Most of the issue comes with the stupidly strong Monsters, like Beastclaws really good ones.

Well they're testing the new points for fireslayers and all the monsters dropped. I think the 3 variants are 200, 240, 260 now? But much more reasonable.

So did all their troops, Fyreslayers were just overcosted in general and I do hope to see them more often. Though they also need some rules adjustments. (Especially the Auric Runemaster! He practically benefits the enemy over you at times)

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
So did all their troops, Fyreslayers were just overcosted in general and I do hope to see them more often. Though they also need some rules adjustments. (Especially the Auric Runemaster! He practically benefits the enemy over you at times)

I would imagine they will also need a real money price adjustment as well if the faction were to really take off. Maybe they'll get a reboxing and per-model price decrease like Stormcasts just did.

Preorders are in the process of being added to the NZ site...

PREODERS ARE UP! LET THE DISSECTION COMMENCE!!!

Slambo the Chaos Champion!?

So out of left field and so awesome. Auto buy for me.

And confirmed that the riders are separate from the mounts! Except for the hero character.

that slambo ...



... kinda think is cool
... more detailed than the last one

Yeah hes cool, retro/old school but very modern quality in terms of details and casting. Pls make him a hero for Warhammer Quest!

 Thargrim wrote:
Pls make him a hero for Warhammer Quest!

And/or a badass boss character for WHQ!

Personally, I want to see him in Gorechosen.

 EnTyme wrote:
Personally, I want to see him in Gorechosen.

So you want to be a WAAC in gorechosen? Because it's clear that Slambo will SLAM them unto the ground.

I also notice that he has the Exalted Hero of Chaos keyword, so he'll be usable in some of the Slaves to Darkness formations.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Personally, I want to see him in Gorechosen.

So you want to be a WAAC in gorechosen? Because it's clear that Slambo will SLAM them unto the ground.

Actually, I think he has something to AXE them...

 nels1031 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
Pls make him a hero for Warhammer Quest!

And/or a badass boss character for WHQ!

Pretty sure he's included in the upcoming WHQ expansion.

SLAM?




Pretty cool looking miniature but I still think it could have been better.

Would have liked to see Harry the Hammer. He'd have fitted in with all the Khorne miniatures going.

Guess he was a special release though.

God-damn. That Slambo is so retro and crap. I need to have one. The rules for him look amazing too! Guys like a beast!

Can pile in and attack twice in the same turn and gets double attacks and +1 to hit against Monsters and Heroes.

He's been on the pizza & ice cream diet. Too chunky.

Slambo looks pretty cool but... isn't it weird he is cast in resin?

hypnoticeris wrote:
Slambo looks pretty cool but... isn't it weird he is cast in resin?

Veridian was also cast in resin. And I may remember wrong but Centos was too cast in resin.

I am VERY impressed by those palladors. The dynamism, the interaction between the mounts and the riders, the musculature on the mounts and all the extra little gubbins combine to make a wonderful set of minis. By far the best Stormcast release so far. It is also worth noting that the Stormcast legs are not attached to the mounts (unlike the aquilor) so plenty of conversion potential.

yikes. That look like something out of Heroquest. Gakky model imo, especially at that price.

The bird are really good though. The green paintjob wasn't doing it for me and made the models look terrible, but with a good paint job, they are terrific. Only minus is the big clowns on them, but with helmetless head, they look decent

Anyone want to clue me in on who Slambo is? My knowledge of chaos is, blessedly, lacking.

He does look awesome, though. The average armor on him would make for some amazing conversions for my paladins.

 Robert Facepalmer wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Personally, I want to see him in Gorechosen.

So you want to be a WAAC in gorechosen? Because it's clear that Slambo will SLAM them unto the ground.

Actually, I think he has something to AXE them...

Now I know why you're called facepalmer.

He's, apparently, a meme.

Originally a Warriors of Chaos Mortals miniature dating back to 4th(?) edition. Older Games Workshop ads for models named some individuals despite the fact none would ever recieve lore.

During 2014, while /tg/ raged and lamented the changes in End Times, an anon decided to cheer the mass of Fantasy fans up by posting old White Dwarf promos in a nostalgiabomb (or a lesson for newer players). One in particular model, dubbed Slambo, caught the attention of the thread.

Slambo is heavily armored like most Warriors, although his faux-viking helmet horns meet to form a halo like a medieval painting of a saint or king, while he is armed with two huge battleaxes. It was love at first sight for many.

Since then, Slambo has come to replace any Chaos character with displeasing lore. If Archaon is unsatisfactory, Slambo is the Everchosen with Archaon being some past failed gakker nobody cares to remember. Those who dislike Be'lakor (the many that is) consider Slambo the first Daemon Prince, the master of Chaos Undivided. If a player wants an extra special Chaos Champion, Slambo is of course eligible. Those who feel Khorne, Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Nurgle, even Horned Rat to be boring little gaks consider Slambo the true master of their branch of Chaos. When Age of Slam was first concieved, Slambo was the replacement for Jim and Bob as commentator.

These gryphchargers are really lovely, and I generally like the Stormcast look, but they look a bit odd together. The huge heavily armoured dudes on these relatively lithe mounts just seems somewhat off.

When are the gryph chargers supposed to be out?