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2017/04/16 09:28:02
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
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2017/04/16 09:38:02
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Jackal wrote: As a skaven player I don't expect to have multiple weapons in a set (see stormfiends)
It's also no real shock about there only being 1 of each per set or so.
Rules wise though, they seem very middle of the road.
I don't see a pure forcing close to winning any tournaments, but I don't see it struggling to hold it's own either.
They're definitely very, very shooty. And in AoS, that means various opportunities to take out enemy characters, removing their unit boosting buffs before your opponent can make good use of them. Given how important those synergies can be, that's not something I'd underestimate
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True, shooting is good in AoS.
But keep in mind some armies don't care about high rending shots atall.
Horde armies generally don't have saves of note anyway.
Tons of seraphon units ignore alot of rending.
Nighthaunt flat ignore all rending.
A mourngul with shield will be evil to play against with them.
Also keep in mind powerful shooting is great, but you have to hit first.
Lots of 4+ in there.
Keep in mind some armies can alter hit and wound rolls too, making it even harder to land shots.
Jackal wrote: True, shooting is good in AoS.
But keep in mind some armies don't care about high rending shots atall.
Horde armies generally don't have saves of note anyway.
Tons of seraphon units ignore alot of rending.
Nighthaunt flat ignore all rending.
A mourngul with shield will be evil to play against with them.
Also keep in mind powerful shooting is great, but you have to hit first.
Lots of 4+ in there.
Keep in mind some armies can alter hit and wound rolls too, making it even harder to land shots.
True. Though there's some ways to ameliorate this issues. The main source, though, in so far seems to be Barak Mhornar. Re-rolling all fails to hit within 3'' of the leader is a good bonus and then there's the fact that your addditional footnote let's you get these are just guidelines. Which means you can get settle the grudges against a high priority target.
2017/04/16 11:22:17
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Oh no doubt they can mitigate it alot of the time.
Keep in mind that buffs from leaders aren't always reliable though.
More so the shorter ranged ones.
Most leaders with said buffs are usually pretty squishy and being AoS, can't join units.
Mortal wounds and magic are a big thing too though.
They lack the ability to deal and deal with both.
I'm not saying they are a bad army as I'd say they are top of mid tier ish.
But they have nothing overly stupid like goutfire or rukk, like the top armies.
They seem to be a solid, balanced army if anything, which should be how they all are.
At a glance I would place this army on the power-curve near Flesh Eater Courts, which I find the absolute sweet-spot.
It has a clear theme/focus, with some fringe options. It has some diverse/fun rules, and doesn't seem woefully inadequate in its ability to play to its strengths and win.
If everything AoS were in this range, power-wise, it would be perfect, and store-level tournaments usually are. Its only the outlier, bullcrap broken combos which ruin the game at a top-top competitive level.
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2017/04/16 16:11:47
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
We have to wait for the Mathhammers to disect the Battletome and find the 18 Tzaangor Skyfires + Shaman combos equivalents.
But at a first glance, yeah. They seem a little "underpowered" only in comparasion with the 3-4 broken combos that dominated the meta. All battletomes should be like this, mid-tier. If everyone is mid-tier, nobody is broken, nobody is useless.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/04/16 17:27:22
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
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2017/04/16 17:34:07
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Galas wrote: We have to wait for the Mathhammers to disect the Battletome and find the 18 Tzaangor Skyfires + Shaman combos equivalents.
But at a first glance, yeah. They seem a little "underpowered" only in comparasion with the 3-4 broken combos that dominated the meta. All battletomes should be like this, mid-tier. If everyone is mid-tier, nobody is broken, nobody is useless.
Yup. Though we already have one 'problem combo' identified with 20 mortars + khemist.
Please, no Andromeda spoilers or comments, I've yet to play it.
Gamgee, it's because people have the right to comment on things (and always will share their opinions), and we don't have the right to silence them. We do have the right to tell them they're wrong, but we're not gods or mods, and we can't just tell them to leave.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
2017/04/16 23:50:09
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
I know that but if it was me I would just move on (eventually) and forget about it. It boggles my mind why they try and be upset is all. Anyways it's way too off topic for me. I broke down and ordered the Kharadron Overlords Batteltomb online since I'm having some issues getting my flgs to order it.
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2017/04/16 23:56:08
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
2017/04/17 00:24:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
People have all their right to share their opinion. Other people have their right to call that opinion bs. The first ones have their right to call the opinion of the second posters even more bs... etc...
Or, wait. No, we have no rights because this is a private page and we only behave how we are permited by the owner and mods
So, Kharadrons out... I expect Death Guard and GHB 2.0 next and then... Death? Cthulu Aelves?
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/04/17 02:48:35
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Hey just looking at the Arknaught Admiral sprue and it doesn't come with the stone attachment on his hammer. Neither is there another option on the warscroll, but there is a picture of him with it? anybody heard anything?
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- Dispossessed
- Death
- Bloodbound
2017/04/17 09:04:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Madmatt wrote: Hey just looking at the Arknaught Admiral sprue and it doesn't come with the stone attachment on his hammer. Neither is there another option on the warscroll, but there is a picture of him with it? anybody heard anything?
If you mean the stone decorative thing on the base he is standing on, it certainly does show that on the sprue,
Sisters and Wolves 4000
~4000 points of Skaven
~2000 Kaptain Gitklaw's Grots
~2400 Kharadron Overlords
4x Imperial Knights
2017/04/17 09:07:12
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Madmatt wrote: Hey just looking at the Arknaught Admiral sprue and it doesn't come with the stone attachment on his hammer. Neither is there another option on the warscroll, but there is a picture of him with it? anybody heard anything?
If you mean the stone decorative thing on the base he is standing on, it certainly does show that on the sprue,
No, he's refering to the tip of his hammer.
2017/04/17 09:19:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Madmatt wrote: Hey just looking at the Arknaught Admiral sprue and it doesn't come with the stone attachment on his hammer. Neither is there another option on the warscroll, but there is a picture of him with it? anybody heard anything?
It's the relic thing from the back of one of these guys:
2017/04/17 09:27:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Madmatt wrote: Hey just looking at the Arknaught Admiral sprue and it doesn't come with the stone attachment on his hammer. Neither is there another option on the warscroll, but there is a picture of him with it? anybody heard anything?
If you mean the stone decorative thing on the base he is standing on, it certainly does show that on the sprue,
No, he's refering to the tip of his hammer.
Oh I see it now. The thing in the artwork. Yeah it's probably just something they added on. Not sure why they would feature an image with the admiral having a different weapon unless it was something it was originally intended to have, but then they changed it.
Sisters and Wolves 4000
~4000 points of Skaven
~2000 Kaptain Gitklaw's Grots
~2400 Kharadron Overlords
4x Imperial Knights
2017/04/17 10:11:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Will all Overlords stuff be up for preorder next weekend? This week had one out of three char/infantry (or ballooneer)/vessels previwed, so they could spread it over two more weeks? Taking up valuable Death Guard release slots
Can someone link me to a pic of the Grundstock mortar, please, or tell me which page leaked WD pics are in this thread, please? I forgot my WD at home but want to see if that mortar might fight a Plague Marine. If you think about it, the Overlords with their WW1 and steampunk look and guns might be a good fit with the Death Guard.
PS: And just how would one go about building Chaos Pinguins?
Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted) 
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
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