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2016/05/12 14:16:29
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
skyth wrote: The stuff you posted represents the fringe of the left. This is the people that don't write laws or policy. The stuff that we complain about in the Republican party are mainline views. No way are these comparable. The gak you posted is like complaining that Republicans want young earth creationism taught in public schools to the exclusions of any other theory.
And right there IS the hole in your theory. These people may be fringe elements of the Left, but they do hold sway in policy. These groups have all ready been successful in implementing racist, sexist, anti free speech, anti-Christian, double standard policies across public schools and dozens of prominent colleges. This includes Harvard of all places. These people have ruined the livelihoods and careers of many educators and other students.
While this has simply been local school and college policy as of now there is a legitimate push to make this public policy in some cities. Prominent officials have voiced support. So yes, I'd say that things like this ARE comparable to demanding only teaching creationism in school.
Can I get some sources on this?
May I ask where you live? If you live anywhere in the United States I have a very hard time believing that you haven't seen any of this in mainstream news over the last 9 months.
After being pressured Harvard just released its new policy that penalizes students that belong to single-gender only groups, such as Fraternities and Finals groups (remember the movie The Skulls???). Of course, they made their policy gender neutral, so it also applied to Sororities and Female only study groups as well. That didn't sit well with the female body, who are now demanding that the female-only groups be exempted.
2016/05/12 14:21:38
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Janthkin wrote: Turn it down about 3 notches, folks. Believe it or not, and contrary to what you might see out of certain polarizing figures on both sides of the hypothetical aisle, it IS possible to have a conversation with people with views that differ from you.
cuda1179 wrote: Let's not forget that to the Left, Air conditioning is sexist, chicken sandwiches are racist, Time is racist and anti-cultural, grades are racist, freedom of speech doesn't extend to offensive thoughts, rape allegations should never be questioned, AIDS was created by the CIA, and Blacks can never be racist.
This is a good example of what NOT to do - statements like these don't leave any room for conversation with people whose views differ from yours. And since this is a discussion forum....
You are taking my statement completely out of context. AlmightyWalrus claimed that the "triggly Puff" incident being criticized by conservatives simply proves how wacko conservatives are. I was just pointing out that criticizing left-leaning philosophies that are bat-crap crazy isn't exactly "radical".
As a pretty liberal guy and a millennial (AKA The Antichrist), I have no clue what you are talking about.
I have never heard any of these things talked about by anybody I know or listen to. So I gotta ask, what are you talking about exactly?
You've seriously never heard about any of that? Sexist air conditioning has been a feminist talking point for years. It even got talked about on a segment on both CNN and MSNBC during prime viewing hours.
Racist Chicken Sandwiches are part of the reason that the chancellor of the University of Missouri was forced to step down (it's cultural appropriation)
Time based attendance and grades are racist towards Blacks and Hispanic culture, as claimed by a rather large body of people including members of the NAACP.
Blacks can NEVER be racist, according to Black Lives Matter and most Black celebrities. They now "own" the definition of "racist". There is even a major movie about it called "Dear White People" (No, not a comedy).
I've never heard of any of that.
Perhaps you could provide some links to the official statements given by the PR departments of Missouri University, the NAACP and the Black Lives Matter.
skyth wrote: I'm amused that a conservative is complaining when a private company makes decisions about what happens on its property...
I'm equally amused that a liberal thinks a private company should have that right (even if they do receive some public funding). Also, the Harvard Policy punishes students with club memberships OFF school property. Belong to an all-men's gym in your home town? That's grounds for punishment.
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2016/05/12 14:35:56
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
The third report given is a Howerd Stern show website republication of a news report by a journalist's blog reporting on a conference. It doesn't include any of the actual conference transcripts or provide links where they could be found.
Really this is only hearsay of unsubstantiated hearsay by one person of another person's academic opnion.
This is very short of proof of the NAACP claiming that grades are racist.
The third report given is a Howerd Stern show website republication of a news report by a journalist's blog reporting on a conference. It doesn't include any of the actual conference transcripts or provide links where they could be found.
Really this is only hearsay of unsubstantiated hearsay by one person of another person's academic opnion.
This is very short of proof of the NAACP claiming that grades are racist.
I never said it was NAACP policy, just that member of the NAACP have that as an opinion. Not just some random member though, someone relatively notable. I remember it was a FOX news interview. I can't find the video at the moment.
2016/05/12 14:45:34
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
skyth wrote: The stuff you posted represents the fringe of the left. This is the people that don't write laws or policy. The stuff that we complain about in the Republican party are mainline views. No way are these comparable. The gak you posted is like complaining that Republicans want young earth creationism taught in public schools to the exclusions of any other theory.
And right there IS the hole in your theory. These people may be fringe elements of the Left, but they do hold sway in policy. These groups have all ready been successful in implementing racist, sexist, anti free speech, anti-Christian, double standard policies across public schools and dozens of prominent colleges. This includes Harvard of all places. These people have ruined the livelihoods and careers of many educators and other students.
While this has simply been local school and college policy as of now there is a legitimate push to make this public policy in some cities. Prominent officials have voiced support. So yes, I'd say that things like this ARE comparable to demanding only teaching creationism in school.
Can I get some sources on this?
May I ask where you live? If you live anywhere in the United States I have a very hard time believing that you haven't seen any of this in mainstream news over the last 9 months.
After being pressured Harvard just released its new policy that penalizes students that belong to single-gender only groups, such as Fraternities and Finals groups (remember the movie The Skulls???). Of course, they made their policy gender neutral, so it also applied to Sororities and Female only study groups as well. That didn't sit well with the female body, who are now demanding that the female-only groups be exempted.
I will do you one better. I will show you how to tell where a person lives on a forum. You see my post, in the upper left hand you can see a flag. Mine is a US flag, which means I live in the US. Cool, right?
Also, what was that first video you posted? It did nothing but make a few jokes about it, throw some blankets, then suddenly it was showing me buildings collapsing and asking me to support some 9/11 Truther thing. What?
The second and third video have to do with an MTV thing. Which is hilarious because it is an MTV thing.....
Not sure what is going on in the last one, why did you link me to a forum?
2016/05/12 15:10:35
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
skyth wrote: I seriously doubt anyone is implementing anti-Christian policies. Getting rid of things that give Christians special priveledges sure...I can see that and don't have a problem with.
See, but don't you realize that anything that removes that special privileged position IS anti-Christian??? I mean, Christians are being actively persecuted in this country! It's ugly out there man, they only represent around 70% of the national population and hold even higher proportions of public office. Including the fact that, under such great duress, they have been elected President of the United States a mere 44 times!... in a row!
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2016/05/12 15:13:27
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
The third report given is a Howerd Stern show website republication of a news report by a journalist's blog reporting on a conference. It doesn't include any of the actual conference transcripts or provide links where they could be found.
Really this is only hearsay of unsubstantiated hearsay by one person of another person's academic opnion.
This is very short of proof of the NAACP claiming that grades are racist.
I never said it was NAACP policy, just that member of the NAACP have that as an opinion. Not just some random member though, someone relatively notable. I remember it was a FOX news interview. I can't find the video at the moment.
Not all members of an organisation neccessarily have the same opinion on every topic. If not adopted as an official policy or believe, things said by one or more members can't be taken as spoken for the whole.
Janthkin wrote: Turn it down about 3 notches, folks. Believe it or not, and contrary to what you might see out of certain polarizing figures on both sides of the hypothetical aisle, it IS possible to have a conversation with people with views that differ from you.
cuda1179 wrote: Let's not forget that to the Left, Air conditioning is sexist, chicken sandwiches are racist, Time is racist and anti-cultural, grades are racist, freedom of speech doesn't extend to offensive thoughts, rape allegations should never be questioned, AIDS was created by the CIA, and Blacks can never be racist.
This is a good example of what NOT to do - statements like these don't leave any room for conversation with people whose views differ from yours. And since this is a discussion forum....
You are taking my statement completely out of context. AlmightyWalrus claimed that the "triggly Puff" incident being criticized by conservatives simply proves how wacko conservatives are. I was just pointing out that criticizing left-leaning philosophies that are bat-crap crazy isn't exactly "radical".
As a pretty liberal guy and a millennial (AKA The Antichrist), I have no clue what you are talking about.
I have never heard any of these things talked about by anybody I know or listen to. So I gotta ask, what are you talking about exactly?
You've seriously never heard about any of that? Sexist air conditioning has been a feminist talking point for years. It even got talked about on a segment on both CNN and MSNBC during prime viewing hours.
Racist Chicken Sandwiches are part of the reason that the chancellor of the University of Missouri was forced to step down (it's cultural appropriation)
Time based attendance and grades are racist towards Blacks and Hispanic culture, as claimed by a rather large body of people including members of the NAACP.
Blacks can NEVER be racist, according to Black Lives Matter and most Black celebrities. They now "own" the definition of "racist". There is even a major movie about it called "Dear White People" (No, not a comedy).
I've never heard of any of that.
Perhaps you could provide some links to the official statements given by the PR departments of Missouri University, the NAACP and the Black Lives Matter.
skyth wrote: I'm amused that a conservative is complaining when a private company makes decisions about what happens on its property...
I'm equally amused that a liberal thinks a private company should have that right (even if they do receive some public funding). Also, the Harvard Policy punishes students with club memberships OFF school property. Belong to an all-men's gym in your home town? That's grounds for punishment.
Those are all TERRIBLE sources and you should feel ashamed. I know of the "movements" you speak of and sure, while some of them are nuts, it's a fringe minority. A) Most lefties don't feel that way, it's a small vocal minority, much like the Westboro Baptist Church. B) The only reason that gak makes news is because it's controversial and ups ratings. Yeah, a couple university have passed safe spaces, ousted University presidents, etc., but those are all super small minorities.
But hey, the right-wing never did anything wrong, right?
I go to facebook to see pictures of my niece and nephew, find out which high school cheerleader became a fatty, and remind myself why I don't hang out with my racist cousins.
If I want the news, I pull up CNN/BBC/FoxNews on my computer, or more often than not, just come to the OT area of DakkaDakka.
You fethers always tell me what I should care about, even if I don't.
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2016/05/12 15:36:53
Subject: Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Kilkrazy wrote: I think that's a bit harsh. Not everyone is aware of the distinctions between primary and secondary sources.
That's partly what this whole thread is about -- Facebook as a tertiary news source.
It should be pretty obvious though what is primary and what is secondary. MTV is about as valid as Facebook for news. Biased as they may be, MTV/Facebook are not hard hitting journalism the way Fox/MSNBC/BBC/CNN are.
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kronk wrote: I go to facebook to see pictures of my niece and nephew, find out which high school cheerleader became a fatty, and remind myself why I don't hang out with my racist cousins.
If I want the news, I pull up CNN/BBC/FoxNews on my computer, or more often than not, just come to the OT area of DakkaDakka.
You fethers always tell me what I should care about, even if I don't.
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2016/05/12 17:06:50
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Kilkrazy wrote: Let's remember that Trumpo isn't running against Obama, he's running against Cruz, Kasich, Bush et al. Given that Trumpo is the most left-wing of all the Republican candidates, how is his success a condemnation of Obama's left-wing presidency?
Goddamn, guys. I can't keep up with this. Is Trump the most left-wing Republican or is he Hitler incarnate? Y'all need to pick a lane and stay in it.
Having been involved in some news stories the sad fact is that journalists get great exercise jumping to conclusions. You have to take anything you read with a huge helping of salt. Some reporters don't even have a clue what happened and just make things up. One of the incidents in the military I was involved in made it to CNN. It was reported as "a training exercise." We had a good laugh at that one.
2016/05/12 17:30:21
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Monkey Tamer wrote: Having been involved in some news stories the sad fact is that journalists get great exercise jumping to conclusions. You have to take anything you read with a huge helping of salt. Some reporters don't even have a clue what happened and just make things up. One of the incidents in the military I was involved in made it to CNN. It was reported as "a training exercise." We had a good laugh at that one.
Exactly.
It's not just about "agendas", but ratings and sensationalism. In the West, the so-called "news" is just as much about Circus Maximus style entertainment and getting a jump on the competition. They're in it for the money, after all. Not for some vague, outdated notion of "journalistic integrity".
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2016/05/12 17:33:35
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Monkey Tamer wrote: Having been involved in some news stories the sad fact is that journalists get great exercise jumping to conclusions. You have to take anything you read with a huge helping of salt. Some reporters don't even have a clue what happened and just make things up. One of the incidents in the military I was involved in made it to CNN. It was reported as "a training exercise." We had a good laugh at that one.
Monkey Tamer wrote: Having been involved in some news stories the sad fact is that journalists get great exercise jumping to conclusions. You have to take anything you read with a huge helping of salt. Some reporters don't even have a clue what happened and just make things up. One of the incidents in the military I was involved in made it to CNN. It was reported as "a training exercise." We had a good laugh at that one.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: And even if we took all you just claimed is true, the Republicans still have Trump, Palin and a long line of prominent representatives of the party behaving like nobheads. Todd "legitimate rape" Akin anyone?
How is he any different from Bernie "cervical cancer is caused by lack of orgasms" Sanders?
2016/05/12 18:53:11
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Kilkrazy wrote: Let's remember that Trumpo isn't running against Obama, he's running against Cruz, Kasich, Bush et al. Given that Trumpo is the most left-wing of all the Republican candidates, how is his success a condemnation of Obama's left-wing presidency?
Goddamn, guys. I can't keep up with this. Is Trump the most left-wing Republican or is he Hitler incarnate? Y'all need to pick a lane and stay in it.
He's not Hitler. He's Mussolini;
Dude I said that already. Except Mussolini had better hair.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2016/05/12 18:56:33
Subject: Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
More of a chisel chin to. People thinking we're going to a Dictatorship or Facism??
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2016/05/12 18:57:42
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
skyth wrote: The stuff you posted represents the fringe of the left. This is the people that don't write laws or policy. The stuff that we complain about in the Republican party are mainline views. No way are these comparable. The gak you posted is like complaining that Republicans want young earth creationism taught in public schools to the exclusions of any other theory.
May I ask where you live? If you live anywhere in the United States I have a very hard time believing that you haven't seen any of this in mainstream news over the last 9 months.
After being pressured Harvard just released its new policy that penalizes students that belong to single-gender only groups, such as Fraternities and Finals groups (remember the movie The Skulls???). Of course, they made their policy gender neutral, so it also applied to Sororities and Female only study groups as well. That didn't sit well with the female body, who are now demanding that the female-only groups be exempted.
I will do you one better. I will show you how to tell where a person lives on a forum. You see my post, in the upper left hand you can see a flag. Mine is a US flag, which means I live in the US. Cool, right?
Also, what was that first video you posted? It did nothing but make a few jokes about it, throw some blankets, then suddenly it was showing me buildings collapsing and asking me to support some 9/11 Truther thing. What?
The second and third video have to do with an MTV thing. Which is hilarious because it is an MTV thing.....
Not sure what is going on in the last one, why did you link me to a forum?
That little flag icon isn't an exact science. For all I know you moved to the US two days ago. You could be an active duty Marine that was deprived of news for a while. Heck, I've lived in the same house for 9 years and for a while my flag was Canadian.
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2016/05/12 19:07:31
Subject: Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Jihadin wrote: More of a chisel chin to. People thinking we're going to a Dictatorship or Facism??
I am thinking exactly that, but not even good Class A bond villain level fascism, but more Benny Hill stupid fascism. Peter Sellers couldn't make this gak up.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/05/12 19:16:35
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
I'm going to go ahead an throw ALL journalist under the bus here.
Studies have shown that of all the people that are able to get into college, the people that have the lowest IQ's, the people shown to be the least aware of current events, the people that do the worst on standardized tests, and those that had the lowest SAT/ACT scores are:
1. Teachers
2. Journalism Majors.
While there are a handful of outliers here, this is astounding. The undeclared students are better. The drunk Frat Boy majoring in business is better.
Then it hit me, some of the dumbest people out there are in charge of educating and informing the youth of tomorrow.
2016/05/12 19:21:20
Subject: Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Jihadin wrote: More of a chisel chin to. People thinking we're going to a Dictatorship or Facism??
Same old hyperbole every election cycle. Some things never change.
Mmm you say that the same day Brazil impeached its President....
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/05/12 19:33:20
Subject: Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News
Monkey Tamer wrote: Having been involved in some news stories the sad fact is that journalists get great exercise jumping to conclusions. You have to take anything you read with a huge helping of salt. Some reporters don't even have a clue what happened and just make things up. One of the incidents in the military I was involved in made it to CNN. It was reported as "a training exercise." We had a good laugh at that one.
My second deployment, we had an incident within the unit that the BDE commander demanded the PAO for the unit tell garrison, and by extension the local/national news that the incident was a "training accident".... It most definitely was not.
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cuda1179 wrote: I'm going to go ahead an throw ALL journalist under the bus here.
Studies have shown that of all the people that are able to get into college, the people that have the lowest IQ's, the people shown to be the least aware of current events, the people that do the worst on standardized tests, and those that had the lowest SAT/ACT scores are:
1. Teachers
2. Journalism Majors.
While there are a handful of outliers here, this is astounding. The undeclared students are better. The drunk Frat Boy majoring in business is better.
Then it hit me, some of the dumbest people out there are in charge of educating and informing the youth of tomorrow.
I'm gonna have to call BS on that one as well... If you've seen what some states require of it's educators there's no fething way that they are essentially the bottom of the barrel college applicants.
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