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You have your belief amd I have mine and the two shall not meet...just the loudest voice prevailing.
So.........taking that out of the discussion......
States rights vs government influence
What we've seen in history and what we are seeing right now, is federal government using a "stick" to get states to acqueiesce their rights.
The government...entices?....states with federal funding to support/finance public programs (such as education)....almost like a drug dealer giving out free samples...and gets states hooked on the funding.
How do you propose that states take back/exercise their rights?
I find it ridiculous that the government would use such tactics to coerce other entities to fall in line with their thinking....especially when there is no legal precedent that the government has to stand on.
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What we've seen in history and what we are seeing right now, is federal government using a "stick" to get states to acqueiesce their rights.
The government...entices?....states with federal funding to support/finance public programs (such as education)....almost like a drug dealer giving out free samples...and gets states hooked on the funding.
How do you propose that states take back/exercise their rights?
I find it ridiculous that the government would use such tactics to coerce other entities to fall in line with their thinking....especially when there is no legal precedent that the government has to stand on.
Nothing will stop that... short of the states invoking the Article of Convention clause to neuter the Fed's power.
State's Constitution vs US Constitution. Always remember. You can always add but never take away.
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When it comes to communal changing rooms and showers.....here is where I have a problem. Unless you have had the surgery to have the genitals of your preferred gender stay the heck out.
Precisely my thought/belief.
If you have a penis...keep your penis out of the female changing/locker rooms.
If you have a vagina...keep your vagina out of the male changing/locker rooms.
Here's where your silly argument falls apart. She's got a dick, and a nice one at that. Her going into the men's room is going to cause way more problems than any imaginary child rapists hanging out in these fully nude locker rooms that I seem to have never seen.
Grown men are more psychologically equipped to handle a female looking male with a penis changing in a locker near them than a school aged (even up to high school in many cases) child/adolescent is.
TheMeanDM wrote: Grown men are more psychologically equipped to handle a female looking male with a penis changing in a locker near them than a school aged (even up to high school in many cases) child/adolescent is.
So your solution is to have changing rooms and toilets segregated by age as well as gender? Because otherwise I don't really see you point. Any public restroom or changing facility where she will be in the same room as grown men will also have her in there with children and adolescents.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
TheMeanDM wrote: Grown men are more psychologically equipped to handle a female looking male with a penis changing in a locker near them than a school aged (even up to high school in many cases) child/adolescent is.
So your solution is to have changing rooms and toilets segregated by age as well as gender? Because otherwise I don't really see you point. Any public restroom or changing facility where she will be in the same room as grown men will also have her in there with children and adolescents.
Whoa....no age discrimination here buddy.
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TheMeanDM wrote: Grown men are more psychologically equipped to handle a female looking male with a penis changing in a locker near them than a school aged (even up to high school in many cases) child/adolescent is.
So your solution is to have changing rooms and toilets segregated by age as well as gender? Because otherwise I don't really see you point. Any public restroom or changing facility where she will be in the same room as grown men will also have her in there with children and adolescents.
But, but, reasons! and I disagree. I've seen many a grown man not psychologically able to handle a chick with a penis.
This is the part that gets me though "The Post obtained the recording from a source who provided it on the condition of anonymity. Carswell (the interviewer) shared the microcassette of the call with the source shortly after the interview."
Carswell was just interviewed about it and Megyn Kelly asked her about the person she shared the cassette with: her reply? Donald Trump. In other words he himself leaked this tape to the Post about him posing as his own publicist and later when asked about it in air on NBC, completely denied being the person on the phone. What a weirdo, but man he knows how to stay in the news.
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dogma wrote: Assuming we agree with the Lerner reference: Are we to infer that you believe someone like Cruz would not?
To be fair, someone like Cruz would abolish the IRS on their first day in office, so it would be kind of hard to use it against political enemies.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Hearing the "America First" is hitting home to many Americans with the rebuild failure of Afghanistan up to 113 Billion dollars wasted. That I AGREE with. Holy Heck. So far one thing I agree with him..............Crap...I can't use "he entertains me: reason to vote for no longer
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Lets not go down the path of OEF please
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Apparently things are getting out of control INSIDE the Democrat convention in Las Vegas. Some Bernie fans were a bit irate at having the cops called in.
Ashley Ector wrote: @rlange9 Run away and let the brown shirts handle it. This is not how American democracy works! #nvdemconvention
Naturally, right-wing media picked up on this...
‘WE NEED A MEDIC!’ Hillary, Bernie delegates clash at NV Dem convention
Supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders clashed in Las Vegas on Saturday and it got so out of hand, cops descended on the ballroom and threatened arrests.
Convention attendee and YouTube user Anie H. posted several photos of the action, as announcements were made over the loud speaker to leave the Paris Hotel or risk being arrested.
She said Las Vegas Metropolitan police entered from the back of the room and went to the front, and “they are literally going to force us to leave the room.”
As she spoke, people could be seen shouting and waving their fists and signs.
“So much for unity,” she said, as a man could be heard yelling, “Sit down!”
Meanwhile, another video showed a man lying on the floor near the front of the room.
“Stay back,” a person shouted.
“We need a medic in the front, we need a medic in the front,” a woman could be heard saying.
In another cell phone clip, Anie H. said, “They’re threatening us with arrest if we do not leave the convention site right now.”
EDIT (Breotan): FFS, people. Learn to hold your phone sideways when making video.
“Bernie or bust!” a man shouted over the loud speaker.
“Everybody please leave out of here peacefully,” another man said, “and I promise you, we will pursue any and all remedies available under the law. Please leave!”
Attendees could be seen filing out, while others milled about.
“Shame on you Nevada Republican — oops — Democratic party,” Anie H. narrated.
Ashley Ector tweeted a photo of the police lining the front of the room. She referred to them as “brown shirts.”
“I think this was of course the fault of the party,” Sanders supporter Angie Morelli tells the paper. “We would’ve been able to do more democratic things, but the way they decided to do it messed us up.”
Sanders supporters were demanding a recount and were alleging a number of their delegates were not recognized at the convention.
I for one, can't wait for the Republican convention.
Breotan wrote: Apparently things are getting out of control INSIDE the Democrat convention in Las Vegas. Some Bernie fans were a bit irate at having the cops called in
That's because they are being kept down by THE MAN, maaaaaaaann.
They'll be alright when they get home and take a hit off of the bong.
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Breotan wrote: Apparently things are getting out of control INSIDE the Democrat convention in Las Vegas. Some Bernie fans were a bit irate at having the cops called in.
From what I understand, it was a close run vote, and "demands" for a recount were not met.... I'm just guessing here, but if Nevada is a "winner takes all delegates" type state, I can understand why people would be upset at the power structure acting in such a way. I won't say that they are doing it because the know Bernie would win, but it sure doesn't make things look on the up and up when you do stuff like that.
Ahtman wrote: It is almost like the popular vote and the party elite are having issues with each other and their choices.
It's almost like a minority of the popular vote is upset that the actual popular vote is going to the candidate the party elite supports.
Well some is, some isn't. If it were that simple Bernie wouldn't have won any states but he has won quite a few. I don't really have a dog in this hunt but that seems to be the problem on the Democratic side at the moment is the perception that something fishy is going on between voters and higher ups in the party.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.