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Which provides no exception at all to the words "Congress shall make no law".
Until this day, I never believed in using the Ignore function I always believed that everyone, no matter how disagreeable, still had at least something productive and useful to contribute. Until today.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Frazzled wrote: "I take it you do support banning Muslims from entering the US"
I view any agent who supports that as committing Treason under the Constitution of the United States. Is that clear enough?
if they are not citizens of the United States it is not treason of the Constitution.
Treason against the United States by violating its Amendments.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Tannhauser42 wrote: Which provides no exception at all to the words "Congress shall make no law".
Until this day, I never believed in using the Ignore function I always believed that everyone, no matter how disagreeable, still had at least something productive and useful to contribute. Until today.
yes Congress shall make no law that infringes on a citizen of the United States from practicing religion, i'm not against Muslims or Islamics who are Citizens of this country.
thanks too Islamaphobin:
but I do believe we need to better vet immigrants coming to this country, and even enforce our own Immigration laws.
just because you do not realize our constitution has no weight or control on people outside of it, is not my fault, the constitution was created for the people of the United States, not the world.
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Below, we use Aldrich-McKelvey scaling (see here and here for background) to analyze voters’ ideological perceptions of the 2016 presidential candidates and other political figures. The 2016 pilot study of the American National Election Study asked respondents to place themselves and each of these figures on a seven-point ideological scale ranging from “extremely liberal” to “extremely conservative.” The Aldrich-McKelvey scaling procedure allows us to recover bias-corrected estimates of the respondents and candidates on the underlying ideological dimension.
The estimated scores (plotted below) show that three Democratic figures (the Democratic Party, President Obama, and Secretary Clinton) are ideologically clustered together. Clinton is a bit closer to the center than the other two, but not by much. On the other hand, there is considerable heterogeneity in ideological perceptions of the four Republican stimuli: Senator Rubio, Donald Trump, the Republican Party, Senator Cruz. It’s probably not surprising that Rubio is perceived to be the most moderate and Cruz is perceived to be the most conservative of the four.
What is noteworthy is that Trump is placed at nearly the same spot as Rubio. Trump, however, has the the greatest amount of uncertainty associated with his ideological score (as a technical note, we estimate 95% confidence intervals for the Aldrich-McKelvey scores using 1,000 bootstrap replications, as described in Chapter 3 of our book on estimating spatial models).
This is equivalent to saying that respondents differ the most in where they place Trump on the ideological scale. The width of Trump’s confidence interval is about twice that of Clinton’s, for instance. This uncertainty could be a factor in the 2016 race, as some political science research suggests that voters reward candidate ambiguity (see also here).
We wondered if voter uncertainty about Trump’s ideological position was being driven by a divide among self-identified conservative respondents; that is, between those who embrace Trump and believe he’s a conservative, and those (e.g., #NeverTrumpers) who doubt Trump’s conservative credentials. To look into this possibility, we plotted the mean placements of Trump and Clinton by respondents’ ideological self-identifications. “1” indicates extremely liberal, “2” indicates liberal, and so on until “7” for extremely conservative. Respondents are sorted in this way on on the vertical axis of the graph below.
For each ideological category of respondents, mean placements of Clinton and Trump are shown along the same seven-point liberal-conservative scale on the horizontal axis. For example, the most conservative respondents (self-identified “7”‘s or extremely conservative) place Clinton furthest to the left. The gray bars represent variation in the corresponding group’s ideological placements of Clinton and Trump.
Interesting, across the ideological categories, respondents are pretty evenly uncertain about Trump’s position on the liberal-conservative scale. On the whole, self-identified conservatives do view Trump as somewhat more moderate than do self-identified liberals (evidence of what is known as interpersonal incomparability or differential item-functioning). But, it is self-identified moderates who place Trump closest to the center (and have the least variation in their Trump placements).
Frazzled wrote: "I take it you do support banning Muslims from entering the US"
I view any agent who supports that as committing Treason under the Constitution of the United States. Is that clear enough?
if they are not citizens of the United States it is not treason of the Constitution.
Take a good long look at the First Amendment. Then look at it again. And again. And keep looking at until the words "Congress shall make no law... " finally sink in.
take a long hard look at the Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
and let that sink in, notice it does not say we the people of the world, but we the people of the United States.
The Preamble holds absolutely no force of law. Sorry, thats pretty basic.
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jreilly89 wrote: Ah yes, how could we forget? "Bring me your tired, your poor, your hungry, but no Muslims"
Also no Cat People.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
jreilly89 wrote: Ah yes, how could we forget? "Bring me your tired, your poor, your hungry, but no Muslims"
Its a poem. Yes its engraved on the statue. It is by no means a law. Also lets compare the time frame of that time to this time. Two major animals
The title of the poem and the first two lines refer to the Colossus of Rhodes, which was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. The poem talks about the millions of immigrants who came to the United States (many of them through Ellis Island at the port of New York).
The "air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame" refers to New York City and Brooklyn, which were consolidated into one unit in 1898, 15 years after the poem was written.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Thats why this Country is not bringing in any Syrian Refugees? Obama wants to but Congress has said no and so it is not done.
They must have because my church has some in Austin. I've met them. I've broke bread with them. What the hell planet are you on?
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The Preamble holds absolutely no force of law. Sorry, thats pretty basic.
the Preamble sets what the constitution is about and for.
And it holds NO FORCE OF LAW. Thats settled case law.
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d-usa wrote: Is there a high score for "most factually incorrect posts" per day/week/month?
No one can come close to my record, set in 2012. Don't even think about it!
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The Preamble holds absolutely no force of law. Sorry, thats pretty basic.
the Preamble sets what the constitution is about and for.
And it holds NO FORCE OF LAW. Thats settled case law.
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d-usa wrote: Is there a high score for "most factually incorrect posts" per day/week/month?
No one can come close to my record, set in 2012. Don't even think about it!
no what is settled is that when the Constitution refers to the People it refers to the Citizens of the United States, you notice when immigration law is enforced, those who entered this country illegally are deported.
jreilly89 wrote: Ah yes, how could we forget? "Bring me your tired, your poor, your hungry, but no Muslims"
wouldn't be the first time this country has kept out specific groups before.
So it's okay to keep Muslims out, but if we tried to do that to Christians, it's religious persecution, right?
if they are a threat to this country then I vote keep them out, I have already said i'm all for keeping Catholic Priests out of this country.
Something something slippery slope. From NOFX's "Re-gaining Unconsciousness"
First they put away the dealers,
keep our kids safe and off the street.
Then they put away the prostitutes,
keep married men cloistered at home.
Then they shooed away the bums,
then they beat and bashed the queers,
turned away asylum-seekers,
fed us suspicions and fears.
We didn't raise our voice,
we didn't make a fuss.
It's funny there was no one left to notice
when they came for us.
d-usa wrote: How many wrong posts does someone have to make for everyone to use the ignore function?
Bad idea. If you disagree with someone argue the point, wrestle the ideas. Thats how its supposed to work. Ignoring them leads to wishing to ban them. Unless they don't like TexMex in which case they are witches and need to be thrown into the river immediately.
and there are illegal immigrants in this country, does not make them legal?
This doesn't relate to my statement. You said there aren't Syrian refugees here, but there are.
Also Syrian refugees does not equal all persons of the Islamic faith (after all there are Christian Syrians, and Muslims from Malaysia are not Syrian).
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kronk wrote: This thread is a mess and you should all feel bad.
I'm going home and getting hammered.
Amateur. Thats was what breakfast is for.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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kronk wrote: This thread is a mess and you should all feel bad.
At this point it only serves to remind us all that there is no good reason to keep the OT section around, especially since "geek media" was split off a short while ago.
Hell, at this point it would be a favor towards me to ban me for the words I am saying as a facedesk after every new post.
d-usa wrote: How many wrong posts does someone have to make for everyone to use the ignore function?
Bad idea. If you disagree with someone argue the point, wrestle the ideas. Thats how its supposed to work. Ignoring them leads to wishing to ban them. Unless they don't like TexMex in which case they are witches and need to be thrown into the river immediately.
and there are illegal immigrants in this country, does not make them legal?
This doesn't relate to my statement. You said there aren't Syrian refugees here, but there are.
Also Syrian refugees does not equal all persons of the Islamic faith (after all there are Christian Syrians, and Muslims from Malaysia are not Syrian).
no I said Congress would not allow Obama to bring Syrian Refugees here. just like the law does not allow immigrants to come to this country illegally, yet here they are.
NuggzTheNinja wrote: Given the atrocities that Islamic migrants have visited upon Europe, hopefully this continues to be the case.
I am currently living in Europe and must've missed all these atrocities. Care to elaborate?
don't tell that too the french people who died during the recent Terrorist attack caused by a couple of those "Refugees" albeit they have not noticed with their regular rounds of rioting?
But he brought them here. Again, I literally know some.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: But he brought them here. Again, I literally know some.
then they got in before the stop and they might be in danger of being deported with the current Sting Obama has initiated to take place this month or next I think? (but that is mostly for those coming from far down south.)
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
Sting? They have legal documentation. I don't know what sting you are referring to.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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