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Hi Dakka,
FW has, sometimes, a bad reputation. But it seems more and more accepted as a part of the game.
How man Dakkanauts have played against it ?

Have you ever encountered a FW list / unit ? Was it overpowered / underpowered / normal ?

I personally run a FW list, with FW units, (armored battle group, 1500 pts for the moment), and I think it isn't even close to be "cheese" or "overpowered".

Feel free to share you experience !

Oops. Clicked less in casual instead of more in casual. ^^;

Having played both with and against forge world units and lists, I have to say that my general they are fairly well balanced, if not a little underpowered, in the modern era.

I play with and against FW units from time to time. Only time I have a problem with it, is a full Mechanicum list in low point games.

I've played agaisnt FW Tau and Eldar units before and intend to build up a Corsair list once the upgrades come back in stock.

Your poll options are pretty crazy, not sure what you're trying to achieve with them?

I ticked all but these 5 options.
There are less FW lists now than before in tournaments
There are less FW units now than before in tournaments
There are less FW lists now than before in casual gaming
There are less FW units now than before in casual gaming
No never.

Yes. On the whole I think FW is broken, only because people only take the good FW options. Like regular 40k, people just spam the best stuff, so I never get to see the non-broken FW units.

I play a few forgeworld units myself, but only one with any regularity, and that's the Malanthrope. Don't leave home without it. It's not anything close to overpowered-hell, half my games I deploy it and never do anything else with it-but boy is it vital.

I play Corsairs and I mean to try out Shadow Spectres sometime.

I find people overstate Forge worlds good and bad sides.

pm713 wrote:
I play Corsairs and I mean to try out Shadow Spectres sometime.

I find people overstate Forge worlds good and bad sides.

Just built my squad + exarch + lord for the shadow spectres... They are fantastic. Anti heavy infantry or anti tank, depending on what you want, jumppack shenanigans and 4+ cover if you moved

And to op: FW is not broken, at all. they have a much more balanced catalogue than gw, people who think they are op just got blindsided, or think everything is op.

FW is fine. People just don't like going up against the unknown, and with over 13 IA books, there is potentially a lot of unknown. Nothing a request to have a quick look through their rules before the game starts can't fix though.

FW have been pretty level.
They only got a bad rep for rules when they started as things were a bit too good.

Now though, they are pretty damn balanced all round.
And compared to 40k these days? I prefer it.

FW is fine, its awesome to see beautiful FW models on tables and the generally fluffier armies built around FW army lists is always great.

FW certainly isnt a balance issue, FW stuff is practically nonexistent in top tier tournament lists, usually just the odd Lynx.

I run Renegades and Heretics, its pretty much taken over as my primary army these days. I've met some people who would say its an overpowered army, and some others who would say it isn't too bad.

I've seen them popping up a whole lot more lately. Apparently in big tournaments they have a large showing.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Yes. On the whole I think FW is broken, only because people only take the good FW options. Like regular 40k, people just spam the best stuff, so I never get to see the non-broken FW units.

This is literally the worst logic on the planet.

 godardc wrote:
Hi Dakka,
FW has, sometimes, a bad reputation. But it seems more and more accepted as a part of the game.
How man Dakkanauts have played against it ?

Have you ever encountered a FW list / unit ? Was it overpowered / underpowered / normal ?

I personally run a FW list, with FW units, (armored battle group, 1500 pts for the moment), and I think it isn't even close to be "cheese" or "overpowered".

Feel free to share you experience !

I play myself a FW-list(Mechanicum). And pretty much anyone in my group has at least one or more models. So yes, I face that often.
Some weeks ago against Raven Guard(40k) with a Sicaran and a Whirwind Scorpius. Both were not that bad. At least not more that the two Stormsurges on the next table.

I just don`t understand that FW-hate. Most of their stuff(except Titans) is more balanced than 40k, this days.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
I run Renegades and Heretics, its pretty much taken over as my primary army these days. I've met some people who would say its an overpowered army, and some others who would say it isn't too bad.

I've seen them popping up a whole lot more lately. Apparently in big tournaments they have a large showing.

Build right they can be about as good as Tau in their own way which is awesome for Chaos fans and human fans. I would give the edge to Tau slightly but still great well balanced army that can hit high or be toned down for fluffy fights and casual games.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Yes. On the whole I think FW is broken, only because people only take the good FW options. Like regular 40k, people just spam the best stuff, so I never get to see the non-broken FW units.

So, just like "regular 40k" then. Ban "regular 40k" as well as banning FW rules, and play with empty tables.


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 Ankhalagon wrote:
Most of their stuff(except Titans) is more balanced than 40k, this days.

Note that the titans have "main GW" rules, FW only produces the models.

My HH army is all FW models, units, and list.

It is fun to play, and I am sporting a 25% win rate with it.

Tremble in fear!

 Jackal wrote:

They only got a bad rep for rules when they started as things were a bit too good.

For a laugh, find the original FW rules for the Baneblade. It's pretty sad compared to what we see in "normal" 40K these days.

I've played against a couple forge world units. the Sicarian, and the Hornet.
The Sicarian was kinda annoying to play against, as I was playing DEldar with lots of skimmers

I haven't faced a lot of Forge World stuff before, but what I did face was pretty powerful. I think the first time was just a Relic Sicaran Tank. It was pretty powerful, but it died easily enough to a D-thirster. I've also faced XV9 Crisis Hazard Suits, a Y'vahra (that thing is nasty!), Eldar Hornets, and some Renegade & Heretics artillery guns (Medusas, Earthshakers, and Thud Guns).

The Y'vahrah is the only FW model I own. It looks so badass. Also it kicks some extreme ass.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Yes. On the whole I think FW is broken, only because people only take the good FW options. Like regular 40k, people just spam the best stuff, so I never get to see the non-broken FW units.

Do you ever play against Tyranid players?

Because 90% of what we have is god awful...but it's all we really have! Hierodules...I want to love you but the Wraithknight makes so much fun of you it's unreal.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Yes. On the whole I think FW is broken, only because people only take the good FW options. Like regular 40k, people just spam the best stuff, so I never get to see the non-broken FW units.

You play 40K and you think FW is broken? Really? Can you name something in particular, because I'm really curious as to what you think is OP compared to what's possible in 40K these days.

The biggest problem with FW is their neglect of their printed rules. Many of their books are two editions behind the base game, and they make little or no effort to keep their expensive models and expensive rules up to date. Once they realised how much of a cash cow the HH was going to be, they gave up caring much about anything else. Old-Timey Power Armor Über Alles!

Played against a anti air dreadnought in a tornament. Thanks to lucky rolls and rules I was able to blown it up but otherwise it would have destroyed my list. I think fw was broken to begin with but it's become balenced. It's where the real writers have moved to.

Back when I played 40k, I had a fire hawks army led by courbray. Was a fun jump pack army. Definitely not broken.