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I open a own Thread for this.

From War of Sigmar commentary:

Expect 40k to have a shake up later in the year!
"It won't be as drastic as Warhammer, but it will be quite a change."
More stream lined and easier to pick...

I was talking to Ally Morrison and Adam Dunn (They were near the entrance) I know Adam from a while back and during our chat 40k came up...
Well about how cumbersome it's become.
Any way.
He said the quote above....


Sad Panda wrote:

New edition won't arrive in 2016.

But they will (and kinda already do) move the story forward.


Sad Panda wrote:
There is a new edition of 40K in the works.

It's also correct that GW doesn't bother re-doing old Codex books, basically since Tau, as they consider 7th a lame duck rule set (there will still be rules for new miniatures, incl. campaigns, Codex Deathwatch, etc..).

Just that the timeline is off and the new edition further away ... at least 2017 ... according to my information (which has been good so far, but a new edition of 40K is the most secretive topic you could find in GW).


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Hold on...is War of Sigmar GW related? Or is that supposed to be Age of Sigmar?

INSANE army lists still available!!!! Now being written in 8th edition format! I have Index Imperium 1, Index Imperium 2, Index Xenos 2, Codex Orks Codex Tyranids, Codex Blood Angels and Codex Space Marines!
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I don't anticipate a full 8th Edition any time soon, not after the backlash of how short-lived 6th Edition was. A full rules update with FAQs and Errata would be likely (and welcome) as we officially move into Warhammer 40,000 7.5

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 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
Hold on...is War of Sigmar GW related? Or is that supposed to be Age of Sigmar?


War of Sigmar is a rumour blog https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/

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Natfka is offering similar rumors on Faeit 212 right now -
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/05/warhammer-40k-new-edition-coming.html

Take with much salt, but the rumormongers in general have been pretty spot on the last few months...
   
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So it's coming then. Prepare for buthurt. If this turns out to be true which I think is an inevitability then the campaign books have been leading up to a shake up of the setting.


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 totalfailure wrote:
Natfka is offering similar rumors on Faeit 212 right now -
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/05/warhammer-40k-new-edition-coming.html

Take with much salt, but the rumormongers in general have been pretty spot on the last few months...

Naftka and Faeit are basically not running rumors, they just find random nonsense and repost it.

As of right now? I'll wait to hear Atia herself say anything, or any of the rumormongers with proven track records. Right now all we have is someone who posted the line quoted in the comments section of Atia's blog.
   
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 EnTyme wrote:
I don't anticipate a full 8th Edition any time soon, not after the backlash of how short-lived 6th Edition was. A full rules update with FAQs and Errata would be likely (and welcome) as we officially move into Warhammer 40,000 7.5


I see the logic in your skepticism, but at the same time they may see 8th edition as an opportunity to monetize the FAQ/errata-fest going on right now. That wouldn't surprise me, either. As pissed as I was with the 6th to 7th transition, I still bought the 7th ed rulebooks, and would probably do the same with 8th.

*edit*

It may not necessarily be a bad thing (other than the cost, which does suck) if they're changing the game in meaningful ways for the better, beyond the recent FAQ stuff.

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 Bull0 wrote:
 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
Hold on...is War of Sigmar GW related? Or is that supposed to be Age of Sigmar?


War of Sigmar is a rumour blog https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/


Thanks for telling me.

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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
I don't anticipate a full 8th Edition any time soon, not after the backlash of how short-lived 6th Edition was. A full rules update with FAQs and Errata would be likely (and welcome) as we officially move into Warhammer 40,000 7.5


I see the logic in your skepticism, but at the same time they may see 8th edition as an opportunity to monetize the FAQ/errata-fest going on right now. That wouldn't surprise me, either. As pissed as I was with the 6th to 7th transition, I still bought the 7th ed rulebooks, and would probably do the same with 8th.

*edit*

It may not necessarily be a bad thing (other than the cost, which does suck) if they're changing the game in meaningful ways for the better, beyond the recent FAQ stuff.


Oh, I'm sure I'd buy it, too. It really depends on how much they want to change right now. It might actually be better to have a shiny new edition with all the clarifications made with the FAQ. With all the errata, 7th is starting to look like it's being held together by duct tape, hope, and rhino saliva. Don't get me wrong, I still really enjoy the game, but it does require a good deal of houseruling and player-made balancing even after the FAQ.

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Yeah, it really does. Both for the sake of clarity and enjoyment.
   
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This is good. 7th is a bloated mess with far too many Special Rules, so streamlining the game would be a good thing.

Also, AoS didn't go far enough, even though it went farther than many GW players were willing to accept.

If 8E is even a half-step to what AoS was, it will be a great improvement in playability. Heck, even if it's just AoS with points, that'll do.

   
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As long as they do a decent job, and don't flip the game on its head I've not got a problem with this. A small update with all the FAQs in and some of the balance sorted could do the game the world of good.

 
   
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So we can get it out of the way since timing and rumors seem to align...

Three cheers for CSM being the first codex of the next edition! Because that never turns out poorly!

But seriously, "quite a change" has me concerned.

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 totalfailure wrote:
Natfka is offering similar rumors on Faeit 212 right now -
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/05/warhammer-40k-new-edition-coming.html

Take with much salt, but the rumormongers in general have been pretty spot on the last few months...


They are literally just quoting that exact same comment on Atia's blog. All of this 8th edition talk comes from one random comment on a blog from someone who, as far as I know, has no reputation for knowing any rumors.
   
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Nvs wrote:
So we can get it out of the way since timing and rumors seem to align...

Three cheers for CSM being the first codex of the next edition! Because that never turns out poorly!

But seriously, "quite a change" has me concerned.


Haha, ! I didn't even consider that. I bet that's absolutely what will happen.
   
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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
This is good. 7th is a bloated mess with far too many Special Rules, so streamlining the game would be a good thing.

Also, AoS didn't go far enough, even though it went farther than many GW players were willing to accept.

If 8E is even a half-step to what AoS was, it will be a great improvement in playability. Heck, even if it's just AoS with points, that'll do.


Yes, yes, YES! But I think we may be in the minority on that desire....

My ideal would be:
*Streamlined, AoS-like rules, with points.
*Unit differences focused on the stat-line and standard USRs, not a myriad of unique special rules for each unit.

Way back when I remember the white and black army list (that had everything) that came with 2nd edition. It was great! The only issue was the separate "wargear" cards. I instead like how wargear is listed by unit now.

We don't need to take it back that far, but the game needs to be a lot more simple and straight-forward for the casual player like me,

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 Mezmaron wrote:
Way back when I remember the white and black army list (that had everything) that came with 2nd edition. It was great! The only issue was the separate "wargear" cards. I instead like how wargear is listed by unit now.

We don't need to take it back that far, but the game needs to be a lot more simple and straight-forward for the casual player like me,


Actually, yes, we do! Although I would accept a level of complexity equivalent to what we got in the 40k3 Rulebook.

Also, streamlined rules are good for competition, simply because there are far fewer things to screw up or argue about. You look at a Space Marine, and it says BS4, and nobody argues over what that means or how it works. Simple.

   
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Does it make me an awful person for wanting the game to get significantly simplified?

I know AoS caused an initial gak-storm because it threw out the baby with the bath-water... but something half-way in that direction, while still maintaining points, and something like Force-Org that asks players to make meaningful choices.... while cropping out a bunch of the bloat, would be terrific.


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AoS has special rules on everyone and his pony (that you may or may not have to ride around and talk to to get boni). Many, probably most, are unique to boot. Just because it is light on core mechanics thst doesn't make it streamlined.

I never got the 7th ed rules, but if GW re-uses Dark Vengeance for a THIRD time I will have to finally buy it for the sheer hilarity.

Edit: Geez, what is wrong with my phone's keyboard today.

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I doubt the will re-uses Storm of Vengeance again.
   
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I can't believe it is true.
Not so soon !
And why doing this just after a faq that clarified the few issues 7th edition had ?

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Well if they make the rules free like AoS then count me in.

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 Mezmaron wrote:
 JohnHwangDD wrote:
This is good. 7th is a bloated mess with far too many Special Rules, so streamlining the game would be a good thing.

Also, AoS didn't go far enough, even though it went farther than many GW players were willing to accept.

If 8E is even a half-step to what AoS was, it will be a great improvement in playability. Heck, even if it's just AoS with points, that'll do.


Yes, yes, YES! But I think we may be in the minority on that desire....




Maybe, but I know there's a lot of players that simply don't have the time or desire to keep up with all the codexes and expansions and campaigns that add layer upon layer of stuff. I think I've played maybe 3 games of 40k since 6th edition. I almost started AoS simply because I loved the simplicity of the rules, but I couldn't get my friends to play, so I gave up on that idea. However, I know we'll get a lot more games on 40k in with simpler rules.

I haven't bought a single thing for 7th edition as far as rules or books go, but I'd be the first to line up for 8th if it means an AoS style overhaul. I think with points coming back in AoS they won't get rid of them for 40k, but otherwise I think it would be a huge improvement to just cut out all the fat with 40k, and also allow for focus on skirmish level gaming like AoS did.

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Binabik15 wrote:
I never got the 7th ed rules, but if GW re-uses Dark Vengeance for a THIRD time I will have to finally buy it for the sheer hilarity.

I thought the Dark Angel models only got used once.




 
   
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Ooh, that'd get me into it. Only a 40k novel and videogame collector as it is, doing a decent job of streamlining and adjusting the game for casuals would be great!

It's easy to get my buddies interested in a universe of super soldiers, aliens and daemons but once I take out the rulebooks they run for the hills.
   
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Until someome with a good rumor reputation chimes in and says what it really will be I dont believe this is going to be a new edition.

Warhammer 40k has its 30th anniversary next year. The 25th saw a new edition (6th) and with this being rumored to be the year of AoS why should they release a new 40k version in 2016?

Sounds more like a printed FAQ book. In 3rd, about a year before 4th, GW released new CC rules and other changes in WD/Chapter Approved/Digital so people could give it a try.



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With the recent more positive moves from GW, this could be great news. A smooth, fast and easy playing 40k ruleset might actually get me gaming 40k again.

The current bloated slowplaying unbalanced mess can`t get worse, so big thumbs up for new rules!

   
 
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